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Title: Obama's Birth Certificate: Not the Issue
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URL Source: http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2 ... rth-certificate-not-issue.html
Published: Apr 29, 2011
Author: Tony Cartalucci
Post Date: 2011-04-29 11:08:51 by Hondo68
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Keywords: John McCain exact same, corporate-financier agenda, the brand of propaganda used
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Bangkok, Thailand April 29, 2011 - Of course, a candidate must meet legal requirements before running for public office. This is a universally agreed upon concept which has been enumerated in laws in every nation, since the beginning of human civilization. However, for those who deeply examine the United States and how it has drifted from a constitutional republic to the corporate-financier oligarchy it is today, they might realize the futility of arguing over "President" Obama's qualifications for an office that has long been ceremonial, if not entirely theatrical. The corporate-financier agenda transcends presidencies. From Reagan to Obama, US foreign and domestic policy has moved in a continuously linear direction toward increasing corporate-financial monopolies and eroding the role and sovereignty of the US Constitution and the people who are supposed to execute it. In 1991, "Neo-Conservative" war monger Paul Wolfowitz stated that the Middle East would be turned upside down and reordered in America's favor - ironically, this operation which has been piecemeal planned and executed year-by-year since then, is finally unfolding in its entirety under the supposedly "liberal" Obama administration.
Like it or not, your real government consists of unelected
bankers and corporate special interests. The argument
that Obama' birth certificate makes-or-breaks his legitimacy
pales in comparison to the realization that the entire office of the
president has been usurped for at least 2 decades.
Likewise, the seemingly "liberal" free-trade agreements pushed by Clinton, were expanded into the beginnings of the supernational Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America under the supposedly "conservative" Bush administration. Of course, the blueprints for the SPP or the geopolitical reordering of the Middle East weren't drawn up by presidential administrations nor committees amongst America's elected representatives, but rather by unelected corporate-funded think-tanks like the Council on Foreign Relations or the Brookings Institute. These think-tanks represent the collective interests of the largest corporations and financial institutions on earth and are the real, often obscure architects of both American and European foreign and domestic policy.
The only difference one can delineate then, is the brand of propaganda used during each supposedly ideologically differentiated political administration to sell this unipolar, unilateral, continuous agenda to the public as it creeps forward. But even upon examining each presidential administration, we are struck with names and affiliations of members who directly represent these corporate interests. To illustrate how entirely ineffectual and meaningless "Obama" is as a president, let's examine some key members of his administration and what their affiliations are.
Timothy Geithner (Secretary of the Treasury): Group of 30, Council on Foreign Relations, private Federal Reserve
Eric Holder (Attorney General): Covington & Burling lobbying for Merck and representing Chiquita International Brands in lawsuits brought by relatives of people killed by Colombian terrorists.
Eric Shinseki (Secretary of Veteran Affairs): US Army, Council on Foreign Relations, Honeywell director (military contractor), Ducommun director (military contractor).
Rahm Emanuel (former Chief of Staff): Freddie Mac
William Daley (Chief of Staff): JP Morgan executive committee member
Susan Rice (UN Ambassador): McKinsey and Company, Brookings Institute, Council on Foreign Relations
Peter Orszag, (former Budget Director): Citi Group, Council on Foreign Relations
Paul Volcker: Council on Foreign Relations, private Federal Reserve, Group of 30
Ronald Kirk (US Trade Representative): lobbyist, part of Goldman Sachs, Kohlberg, Kravis, Roberts, and Texas Pacific Group partnership to buyout Energy Future Holdings.
Lawrence Summers (National Economic Council Director): World Bank, Council on Foreign Relations
Who amongst Obama's administration can we honestly presume has the people's, or even America's best interests at heart? Goldman Sachs bankers? JP Morgan bankers? Corporate lobbyists? Indeed, these are the same banking, corporate, and political interests that guided the agenda under Bush, Clinton, Bush Sr., Regan and so on. While there is some debate over which US president was in fact the last "real" president who exercised an agenda it genuinely could claim ownership over, there is no doubt that over the last two decades the same corporate interests have been entirely steering America's people and their destiny with but the veneer of "democracy."
Had John McCain won the elections in 2008, you could rest assured he would have taken US policy in the exact same direction Obama is going today. In fact, McCain is one of the key players who has helped fund and organize the current unrest sweeping the Middle East, along with a myriad of other "Republicans" and "Neo-Conservatives." The "Arab Spring" itself was planned and being staged before Obama even took office.
Ideologically, President Obama's qualifications are important and many are right to question them. Realistically, they are a red herring, as is his entire presidency. He is in charge of exactly nothing, most likely not even the tie he puts on in the morning and surely not the words that come out of his mouth. His entire function is to perpetuate the facade that America is still run by an elected government and not an illegitimate oligarchy of corporations and financial institutions. Arguing over his birth certificate engenders him with legitimacy in and of itself - suggesting that if he had proper qualifications he would be a "legitimate" president. But he, like his predecessor Bush, are both entirely illegitimate, as is the system they purportedly preside over.
Recognizing this grave reality, and instead concentrating on the corporate-financier interests that have hijacked American politics is essential to restoring a true constitutional republic. For it is not whose hands we think hold the power, it is in whose hands that really hold the power that shapes US policy. Definitively, US policy does not favor the people, definitively the power is not in the people's hands. As long as we grasp to the illusion that through the futile exercise of elections we are somehow "in control," it will remain this way perpetually. The fact that our president is in charge of absolutely nothing and that his duties have long been shifted to an unelected corporate-financier oligarchy is the issue, not his dubious qualifications.
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#1. To: hondo68, *The Two Parties ARE the Same*, *Bill of Rights-Constitution*, *Crime and Corruption*, *Hypocrisy and Hypocrites*, *Economic News*, *Politics and Politicians* (#0)
However, for those who deeply examine the United States and how it has drifted from a constitutional republic to the corporate-financier oligarchy it is today, they might realize the futility of arguing over "President" Obama's qualifications for an office that has long been ceremonial, if not entirely theatrical. This needs to be shouted from the rooftops. The problem is the very people whose job it is to shout it from the rooftops in this electronic age are owned by the same international bankers that own the corporations that own the politicians. The corporate-financier agenda transcends presidencies. From Reagan to Obama, US foreign and domestic policy has moved in a continuously linear direction toward increasing corporate-financial monopolies and eroding the role and sovereignty of the US Constitution and the people who are supposed to execute it. Which is exactly why I have been calling President Homie "Bush 4.0" ever since he took office. That weasel bastard Poppy Bush and his cronies started subverting Reagan the day he took office. Reagan was forced to take Poppy as his VP because the RNC threatened to withold support for his run for the WH if he didn't accept Poppy. Had John McCain won the elections in 2008, you could rest assured he would have taken US policy in the exact same direction Obama is going today. And being more experienced with more and better contacts,he would have probably been more successful. Ideologically, President Obama's qualifications are important and many are right to question them. Realistically, they are a red herring, as is his entire presidency. He is in charge of exactly nothing, most likely not even the tie he puts on in the morning and surely not the words that come out of his mouth.His entire function is to perpetuate the facade that America is still run by an elected government and not an illegitimate oligarchy of corporations and financial institutions. BINGO! The fact that our president is in charge of absolutely nothing and that his duties have long been shifted to an unelected corporate-financier oligarchy is the issue, not his dubious qualifications. The author of this piece has summed it up about as well as I have ever seen,but he doesn't take it far enough because he doesn't even mention the politically powerful supporting cast that makes all this possible. US Senators and Congresscritters that are owned outright by the international bankers. The voters could all get together and elect a 21st Century Thomas Jefferson at this point and he would be powerless to change things because he would have both the DNC AND the RNC working against him,as well as the US Senate and the US Congress. The ONLY way to change things is start at the local level and work your way up. Get a solid conservative pro-American base from the local to the state and federal level so a new president has the political support he needs to pass new laws,throw out old laws,eliminate bureaucracies,and change foreign policies.
I haven't seen you this excited in years about an article; and it is a good article, too. But, your idea won't work. The large population centers all around the USA control the electoral college and that voting block is typically based on poor folks that enjoy handouts from Uncle Scam. The messes America is involved with, both foreign and domestic, are unrepairable with a constituentcy that has torn the nation from the bottom to the top; it can not be fixed and that is why you see no one advancing REAL change back towards a small government on any level, anywhere. The incremental suicide that America has perpetrated upon itself from about 1897 (the Spanish American War) has placed us into hopelessness with one singular method .... so far, no one wants to pull the ripcord.
advancing REAL change back towards a small government The beer is still cold. When the power goes out and they're forced to drink those four-oohs warm, you'll see REAL change.
Exactly my point. I used to share Pete's well-articulated perspective about addressing local government concerns FIRST and then moving on to county, state and federal governance. It is in the forefront of the Libertarian Party's methods towards a desired outcome to diminish large government and return the power base back to the local level. And for years, there has only been some good results but way below my expectations. The American People don't give a shit other than a free handout while enjoying a cold one during their daily couch potatoe activities. Taken with the current "average" American's considerations for REAL change, the demographics as well as anyone can vote it is nearly impossible to change this nation. Keep in mind that what made America GREAT was not a large electoral constituency during the first one hundred years of America. It was a small one; wherein those that voted normally owned land and added value back to the communities where they worked; that same value created the greatest nation on the Earth. But, today, we have mostly everyone that can vote: from illegals to welfare recipients to federal/state/local retirees that collect HUGE amounts of earnings based on government handouts while doing little other than complaining they want more. It is a hopeless America, anymore. And there can be no change to impede the current dynamics other than ONE: REVOLUTION.
You may well be right,but my position is and will remain that there are only two options. 1: Work within the political system to enact changes. 2: Pick up your rifle and go into politics. Once option 2 is picked there is no going back. Many people will die and many more will suffer greatly. I will always resist option 2 as long as I have the option to resist it. Once people start coming after me with rifles is when I will pick mine up,and if I am ever forced to do that I will show no mercy. Which means that I will stick with option 1 as long as it remains an option. Once the announcement is made that we are going to a "Cash-Free Society" or that the 2nd Amendment is being annulled,it's game on for me. Up until that time I am going to stick with the voting with a ballot process.
#7. To: sneakypete, hondo68 (#6)
Lets forget about option 2 and move on with your option 1 idea: Working within a failed political system? Your vote is worthless anymore. There is no political party that you can rely on or cling to for renewed capabilities for any reformation of government. The largest reason is that there are no voter qualifications to be found, anywhere. You have no idea about the educational level, the ability to read/write much less understand the issues presented in America's voting constituents that have effected the so-called "progress" in America. You are in effect, wasting your time. Proof is in the pudding, too. No one can repair the systems that the People have voted for. And starting out at the local level means to me that voter qualifications are in order. However, that can't occur because of the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT STRICT ADHERENCE TO FAIR ELECTIONS. But, what is a "FAIR ELECTION" anyway? Where the People are continuously trashed by absurd policies&procedures that were voted in by folks that can barely sign their names on a voter registration card? Why does an illegal alien get to subtract my vote for real change? In fact, why are there MILLIONS of illegal aliens in America? But, the illegals are just one issue out of thousands of which are trashing America and American values. There are no REAL voter qualifications other than being a biped; without real voter qualifications it is impossible to have a true representative government of the citizenry.
I applaud your sentiments. In response, however, I will offer an extended quote from Claire Wolfe: What matters is that the pace of totalitarianism is increasing. And it is coming closer to our daily lives all the time. Once your state passes the enabling legislation (under threat of losing "federal welfare dollars"), it is YOUR name and Social Security number that will be entered in that employee database the moment you go to work for a new employer. It is YOU who will be unable to cash a check, board an airplane, get a passport or be allowed any dealings with any government agency if you refuse to give your SS number to the drivers license bureau. It is YOU who will be endangered by driving "illegally" if you refuse to submit to Big Brother's licensing procedures. It is YOU whose psoriasis, manic depression or prostate troubles will soon be the reading matter of any bureaucrat with a computer. It is YOU who could be declared a member of a "foreign terrorist" organization just because you bought a book or concert tickets from some group the government doesn't like. It is YOU who could lose your home, bank account and reputation because you made a mistake on a health insurance form. Finally, when you become truly desperate for freedom, it is YOU whose assets will be seized if you try to flee this increasingly insane country. As Ayn Rand said in Atlas Shrugged, "There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws." It's time to drop any pretense: We are no longer law-abiding citizens. We have lost our law-abiding status. There are simply too many laws to abide. And because of increasingly draconian penalties and electronic tracking mechanisms, our "lawbreaking" places us and our families in greater jeopardy every day. STOPPING RUNAWAY GOVERNMENT The question is: What are we going to do about it? Write a nice, polite letter to your congressperson? Hey, if you think that'll help, I've got a bridge you might be interested in buying. (And it isn't your "bridge to the future," either.) Vote "better people" into office? Oh yeah, that's what we thought we were doing in 1994. Work to fight one bad bill or another? Okay. What will you do about the 10 or 20 or 100 equally horrible bills that will be passed behind your back while you were fighting that little battle? And let's say you defeat a nightmare bill this year. What are you going to do when they sneak it back in, at the very last minute, in some "omnibus legislation" next year? And what about the horrors you don't even learn about until two or three years after they become law? Should you try fighting these laws in the courts? Where do you find the resources? Where do you find a judge who doesn't have a vested interest in bigger, more powerful government? And again, for every one case decided in favor of freedom, what do you do about the 10, 20 or 100 in which the courts decide against the Bill of Rights? Perhaps you'd consider trying to stop the onrush of these horrors with a constitutional amendment -- maybe one that bans "omnibus" bills, requires that every law meet a constitutional test or requires all congresspeople to sign statements that they've read and understood every aspect of every bill on which they vote. Good luck! Good luck , first, on getting such an amendment passed. Then good luck getting our Constitution-scorning "leaders" to obey it. It is true that liberty requires eternal vigilance, and that part of that vigilance has been, traditionally, keeping a watchful eye on laws and on lawbreaking lawmakers. But given the current pace of law spewing and unconstitutional regulation- writing, you could watch, plead and struggle "within the system" 24 hours a day for your entire life and end up infinitely less free than when you began. Why throw your life away on a futile effort? Face it. If "working within the system" could halt tyranny, the tyrants would outlaw it. Why do you think they encourage you to vote, to write letters, to talk to them in public forums? It's to divert your energies. To keep you tame. "The system" as it presently exists is nothing but a rat maze. You run around thinking you're getting somewhere. Your masters occasionally reward you with a little pellet that encourages you to believe you're accomplishing something. And in the meantime, you are as much their property and their pawn as if you were a slave. In the effort of fighting them on their terms and with their authorized and approved tools, you have given your life's energy to them as surely as if you were toiling in their cotton fields, under the lash of their overseer. The only way we're going to get off this road to Hell is if we jump off. If we, personally, as individuals, refuse to cooperate with evil. How we do that is up to each of us. I can't decide for you, nor you for me. (Unlike congresspeople, who think they can decide for everybody.) But this totalitarian runaway truck is never going to stop unless we stop it, in any way we can. Stopping it might include any number of things: tax resistance; public civil disobedience; wide-scale, silent non-cooperation; highly noisy non-cooperation; boycotts; secession efforts; monkey-wrenching; computer hacking; dirty tricks against government agents; public shunning of employees of abusive government agencies; alternative, self-sufficient communities that provide their own medical care and utilities. There are thousands of avenues to take, and this is something most of us still need to give more thought to before we can build an effective resistance. We will each choose the courses that are right for our own circumstances, personalities and beliefs. Whatever we do, though, we must remember that we are all, already, outlaws. Not one of us can be certain of getting through a single day without violating some law or regulation we've never even heard of. We are all guilty in the eyes of today's "law." If someone in power chooses to target us, we can all, already, be prosecuted for *something*. And I'm sure you know that your claims of "good intentions" won't protect you, as the similar claims of politicians protect them. Politicians are above the law. YOU are under it. Crushed under it. When you look at it that way, we have little left to lose by breaking laws *creatively and purposefully*. Yes, some of us will suffer horrible consequences for our lawbreaking. It is very risky to actively resist unbridled power. It is especially risky to go public with resistance (unless hundreds of thousands publicly join us), and it becomes riskier the closer we get to tyranny. For that reason, among many others, I would never recommend any particular course of action to anyone -- and I hope you'll think twice before taking "advice" from anybody about things that could jeopardize your life or well-being. But if we don't resist in the best ways we know how -- and if a good number of us don't resist loudly and publicly -- all of us will suffer the much worse consequence of living under total oppression. And whatever courses of action we choose, we must remember that this legislative "revolution" against We the People will not be stopped by politeness. It will not bestopped by requests. It will not be stopped by "working within a system" governed by those who regard us as nothing but cattle. It will not be stopped by pleading for justice from those who will resort to any degree of trickery or violence to rule us. It will not be stopped unless we are willing to risk our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honors to stop it. I think of the words of Winston Churchill: "If you will not fight for the right when you can easily win without bloodshed, if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not so costly, you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance for survival. There may be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no chance of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves."
IMO they're never going to come out and announce either. It will continue incrementally. It'll keep getting harder and harder to get arms and ammo, and less places will accept cash. There will never be an official announcement like... we're going to be F'n with Sneakypete today, taking his guns and cash, and issuing a homie credit card.
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#2. To: sneakypete, hondo68 (#1)
The ONLY way to change things is start at the local level and work your way up. Get a solid conservative pro-American base from the local to the state and federal level so a new president has the political support he needs to pass new laws,throw out old laws,eliminate bureaucracies,and change foreign policies.
#4. To: buckeroo (#2)
The large population centers all around the USA control the electoral college and that voting block is typically based on poor folks that enjoy handouts from Uncle Scam
#5. To: hondo68, sneakypete (#4)
The beer is still cold. When the power goes out and they're forced to drink those four-oohs warm, you'll see REAL change.
#6. To: buckeroo, hondo68 (#5)
It is a hopeless America, anymore. And there can be no change to impede the current dynamics other than ONE: REVOLUTION.
Replies to Comment # 6. 1: Work within the political system to enact changes.
I will stick with option 1 as long as it remains an option. Once the announcement is made that we are going to a "Cash-Free Society" or that the 2nd Amendment is being annulled,it's game on for me. Up until that time I am going to stick with the voting with a ballot process.
#13. To: sneakypete (#6)
Which means that I will stick with option 1 as long as it remains an option.
CONTROL REIGNS
It matters not one whit whether the people controlling you call themselves R's or D's, liberals or conservatives, socialists or even (I hate to admit it) libertarians. It doesn't matter whether they vote for these horrors because they're not paying attention or because they actually like such things.
#15. To: sneakypete (#6)
(Edited)
Once the announcement is made that we are going to a "Cash-Free Society" or that the 2nd Amendment is being annulled,it's game on for me.
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