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Title: Obama's Birth Certificate: Not the Issue
Source: Land Destroyer
URL Source: http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2 ... rth-certificate-not-issue.html
Published: Apr 29, 2011
Author: Tony Cartalucci
Post Date: 2011-04-29 11:08:51 by Hondo68
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Keywords: John McCain exact same, corporate-financier agenda, the brand of propaganda used
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Comments: 62

Bangkok, Thailand April 29, 2011 - Of course, a candidate must meet legal requirements before running for public office. This is a universally agreed upon concept which has been enumerated in laws in every nation, since the beginning of human civilization. However, for those who deeply examine the United States and how it has drifted from a constitutional republic to the corporate-financier oligarchy it is today, they might realize the futility of arguing over "President" Obama's qualifications for an office that has long been ceremonial, if not entirely theatrical.


Like it or not, your real government consists of unelected
bankers and corporate special interests. The argument
that Obama' birth certificate makes-or-breaks his legitimacy
pales in comparison to the realization that the entire office of the
president has been usurped for at least 2 decades.

The corporate-financier agenda transcends presidencies. From Reagan to Obama, US foreign and domestic policy has moved in a continuously linear direction toward increasing corporate-financial monopolies and eroding the role and sovereignty of the US Constitution and the people who are supposed to execute it. In 1991, "Neo-Conservative" war monger Paul Wolfowitz stated that the Middle East would be turned upside down and reordered in America's favor - ironically, this operation which has been piecemeal planned and executed year-by-year since then, is finally unfolding in its entirety under the supposedly "liberal" Obama administration.

Likewise, the seemingly "liberal" free-trade agreements pushed by Clinton, were expanded into the beginnings of the supernational Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America under the supposedly "conservative" Bush administration. Of course, the blueprints for the SPP or the geopolitical reordering of the Middle East weren't drawn up by presidential administrations nor committees amongst America's elected representatives, but rather by unelected corporate-funded think-tanks like the Council on Foreign Relations or the Brookings Institute. These think-tanks represent the collective interests of the largest corporations and financial institutions on earth and are the real, often obscure architects of both American and European foreign and domestic policy.

The only difference one can delineate then, is the brand of propaganda used during each supposedly ideologically differentiated political administration to sell this unipolar, unilateral, continuous agenda to the public as it creeps forward. But even upon examining each presidential administration, we are struck with names and affiliations of members who directly represent these corporate interests. To illustrate how entirely ineffectual and meaningless "Obama" is as a president, let's examine some key members of his administration and what their affiliations are.

Timothy Geithner (Secretary of the Treasury): Group of 30, Council on Foreign Relations, private Federal Reserve
Eric Holder (Attorney General): Covington & Burling lobbying for Merck and representing Chiquita International Brands in lawsuits brought by relatives of people killed by Colombian terrorists.
Eric Shinseki (Secretary of Veteran Affairs): US Army, Council on Foreign Relations, Honeywell director (military contractor), Ducommun director (military contractor).
Rahm Emanuel (former Chief of Staff): Freddie Mac
William Daley (Chief of Staff): JP Morgan executive committee member
Susan Rice (UN Ambassador): McKinsey and Company, Brookings Institute, Council on Foreign Relations
Peter Orszag, (former Budget Director): Citi Group, Council on Foreign Relations
Paul Volcker
: Council on Foreign Relations, private Federal Reserve, Group of 30
Ronald Kirk (US Trade Representative): lobbyist, part of Goldman Sachs, Kohlberg, Kravis, Roberts, and Texas Pacific Group partnership to buyout Energy Future Holdings.
Lawrence Summers (National Economic Council Director): World Bank, Council on Foreign Relations

Who amongst Obama's administration can we honestly presume has the people's, or even America's best interests at heart? Goldman Sachs bankers? JP Morgan bankers? Corporate lobbyists? Indeed, these are the same banking, corporate, and political interests that guided the agenda under Bush, Clinton, Bush Sr., Regan and so on. While there is some debate over which US president was in fact the last "real" president who exercised an agenda it genuinely could claim ownership over, there is no doubt that over the last two decades the same corporate interests have been entirely steering America's people and their destiny with but the veneer of "democracy."

Had John McCain won the elections in 2008, you could rest assured he would have taken US policy in the exact same direction Obama is going today. In fact, McCain is one of the key players who has helped fund and organize the current unrest sweeping the Middle East, along with a myriad of other "Republicans" and "Neo-Conservatives." The "Arab Spring" itself was planned and being staged before Obama even took office.

Ideologically, President Obama's qualifications are important and many are right to question them. Realistically, they are a red herring, as is his entire presidency. He is in charge of exactly nothing, most likely not even the tie he puts on in the morning and surely not the words that come out of his mouth. His entire function is to perpetuate the facade that America is still run by an elected government and not an illegitimate oligarchy of corporations and financial institutions. Arguing over his birth certificate engenders him with legitimacy in and of itself - suggesting that if he had proper qualifications he would be a "legitimate" president. But he, like his predecessor Bush, are both entirely illegitimate, as is the system they purportedly preside over.

Recognizing this grave reality, and instead concentrating on the corporate-financier interests that have hijacked American politics is essential to restoring a true constitutional republic. For it is not whose hands we think hold the power, it is in whose hands that really hold the power that shapes US policy. Definitively, US policy does not favor the people, definitively the power is not in the people's hands. As long as we grasp to the illusion that through the futile exercise of elections we are somehow "in control," it will remain this way perpetually. The fact that our president is in charge of absolutely nothing and that his duties have long been shifted to an unelected corporate-financier oligarchy is the issue, not his dubious qualifications. (1 image)

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#1. To: hondo68, *The Two Parties ARE the Same*, *Bill of Rights-Constitution*, *Crime and Corruption*, *Hypocrisy and Hypocrites*, *Economic News*, *Politics and Politicians* (#0)

However, for those who deeply examine the United States and how it has drifted from a constitutional republic to the corporate-financier oligarchy it is today, they might realize the futility of arguing over "President" Obama's qualifications for an office that has long been ceremonial, if not entirely theatrical.

This needs to be shouted from the rooftops. The problem is the very people whose job it is to shout it from the rooftops in this electronic age are owned by the same international bankers that own the corporations that own the politicians.

The corporate-financier agenda transcends presidencies. From Reagan to Obama, US foreign and domestic policy has moved in a continuously linear direction toward increasing corporate-financial monopolies and eroding the role and sovereignty of the US Constitution and the people who are supposed to execute it.

Which is exactly why I have been calling President Homie "Bush 4.0" ever since he took office. That weasel bastard Poppy Bush and his cronies started subverting Reagan the day he took office. Reagan was forced to take Poppy as his VP because the RNC threatened to withold support for his run for the WH if he didn't accept Poppy.

Had John McCain won the elections in 2008, you could rest assured he would have taken US policy in the exact same direction Obama is going today.

And being more experienced with more and better contacts,he would have probably been more successful.

Ideologically, President Obama's qualifications are important and many are right to question them. Realistically, they are a red herring, as is his entire presidency. He is in charge of exactly nothing, most likely not even the tie he puts on in the morning and surely not the words that come out of his mouth.His entire function is to perpetuate the facade that America is still run by an elected government and not an illegitimate oligarchy of corporations and financial institutions.

BINGO!

The fact that our president is in charge of absolutely nothing and that his duties have long been shifted to an unelected corporate-financier oligarchy is the issue, not his dubious qualifications.

The author of this piece has summed it up about as well as I have ever seen,but he doesn't take it far enough because he doesn't even mention the politically powerful supporting cast that makes all this possible. US Senators and Congresscritters that are owned outright by the international bankers.

The voters could all get together and elect a 21st Century Thomas Jefferson at this point and he would be powerless to change things because he would have both the DNC AND the RNC working against him,as well as the US Senate and the US Congress.

The ONLY way to change things is start at the local level and work your way up. Get a solid conservative pro-American base from the local to the state and federal level so a new president has the political support he needs to pass new laws,throw out old laws,eliminate bureaucracies,and change foreign policies.

sneakypete  posted on  2011-04-29   11:48:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: sneakypete, hondo68 (#1)

The ONLY way to change things is start at the local level and work your way up. Get a solid conservative pro-American base from the local to the state and federal level so a new president has the political support he needs to pass new laws,throw out old laws,eliminate bureaucracies,and change foreign policies.

I haven't seen you this excited in years about an article; and it is a good article, too.

But, your idea won't work. The large population centers all around the USA control the electoral college and that voting block is typically based on poor folks that enjoy handouts from Uncle Scam. The messes America is involved with, both foreign and domestic, are unrepairable with a constituentcy that has torn the nation from the bottom to the top; it can not be fixed and that is why you see no one advancing REAL change back towards a small government on any level, anywhere. The incremental suicide that America has perpetrated upon itself from about 1897 (the Spanish American War) has placed us into hopelessness with one singular method .... so far, no one wants to pull the ripcord.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-04-29   12:52:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: buckeroo (#2)

The large population centers all around the USA control the electoral college and that voting block is typically based on poor folks that enjoy handouts from Uncle Scam

advancing REAL change back towards a small government

The beer is still cold. When the power goes out and they're forced to drink those four-oohs warm, you'll see REAL change.

Hondo68  posted on  2011-04-29   13:38:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: hondo68, sneakypete (#4)

The beer is still cold. When the power goes out and they're forced to drink those four-oohs warm, you'll see REAL change.

Exactly my point. I used to share Pete's well-articulated perspective about addressing local government concerns FIRST and then moving on to county, state and federal governance. It is in the forefront of the Libertarian Party's methods towards a desired outcome to diminish large government and return the power base back to the local level. And for years, there has only been some good results but way below my expectations. The American People don't give a shit other than a free handout while enjoying a cold one during their daily couch potatoe activities.

Taken with the current "average" American's considerations for REAL change, the demographics as well as anyone can vote it is nearly impossible to change this nation.

Keep in mind that what made America GREAT was not a large electoral constituency during the first one hundred years of America. It was a small one; wherein those that voted normally owned land and added value back to the communities where they worked; that same value created the greatest nation on the Earth.

But, today, we have mostly everyone that can vote: from illegals to welfare recipients to federal/state/local retirees that collect HUGE amounts of earnings based on government handouts while doing little other than complaining they want more.

It is a hopeless America, anymore. And there can be no change to impede the current dynamics other than ONE: REVOLUTION.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-04-29   14:06:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: buckeroo, hondo68 (#5)

It is a hopeless America, anymore. And there can be no change to impede the current dynamics other than ONE: REVOLUTION.

You may well be right,but my position is and will remain that there are only two options.

1: Work within the political system to enact changes.

2: Pick up your rifle and go into politics.

Once option 2 is picked there is no going back. Many people will die and many more will suffer greatly. I will always resist option 2 as long as I have the option to resist it. Once people start coming after me with rifles is when I will pick mine up,and if I am ever forced to do that I will show no mercy.

Which means that I will stick with option 1 as long as it remains an option. Once the announcement is made that we are going to a "Cash-Free Society" or that the 2nd Amendment is being annulled,it's game on for me. Up until that time I am going to stick with the voting with a ballot process.

sneakypete  posted on  2011-04-29   14:27:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: sneakypete, hondo68 (#6)

1: Work within the political system to enact changes.

Lets forget about option 2 and move on with your option 1 idea:

I will stick with option 1 as long as it remains an option. Once the announcement is made that we are going to a "Cash-Free Society" or that the 2nd Amendment is being annulled,it's game on for me. Up until that time I am going to stick with the voting with a ballot process.

Working within a failed political system? Your vote is worthless anymore. There is no political party that you can rely on or cling to for renewed capabilities for any reformation of government. The largest reason is that there are no voter qualifications to be found, anywhere.

You have no idea about the educational level, the ability to read/write much less understand the issues presented in America's voting constituents that have effected the so-called "progress" in America. You are in effect, wasting your time.

Proof is in the pudding, too. No one can repair the systems that the People have voted for. And starting out at the local level means to me that voter qualifications are in order. However, that can't occur because of the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT STRICT ADHERENCE TO FAIR ELECTIONS.

But, what is a "FAIR ELECTION" anyway? Where the People are continuously trashed by absurd policies&procedures that were voted in by folks that can barely sign their names on a voter registration card? Why does an illegal alien get to subtract my vote for real change? In fact, why are there MILLIONS of illegal aliens in America?

But, the illegals are just one issue out of thousands of which are trashing America and American values. There are no REAL voter qualifications other than being a biped; without real voter qualifications it is impossible to have a true representative government of the citizenry.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-04-29   14:48:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: buckeroo (#7)

without real voter qualifications it is impossible to have a true representative government of the citizenry.

Which is why you go back to the founders vision. Jettison egalitarianism and permit only those with a vested interest in maintaining the Constitutional authority in this land, i.e. land and property owners, military and career professionals vote. No one else. Especially not welfare recipients.

Rudgear  posted on  2011-04-29   14:57:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Rudgear (#8)

Which is why you go back to the founders vision. Jettison egalitarianism and permit only those with a vested interest in maintaining the Constitutional authority in this land, i.e. land and property owners, military and career professionals vote. No one else. Especially not welfare recipients.

So the foreigners who own tons of our real estate get to vote, while those who rent do not?

Seriously?

go65  posted on  2011-04-29   15:10:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: go65, buckeroo, all (#10)

So the foreigners who own tons of our real estate get to vote, while those who rent do not?

Seriously?

No. BTW,people like you are a perfect example of why we need to take over the school boards and the teachers colleges. I have no doubt you have a college degree,and you went to school all those years and never even learned how to reason.

Rich foreigners won't be able to vote because they aren't citizens.

I am NOT slamming you,I am just pointing out that this is so basic and so obvious nobody that grew up in this country and was educated beyond the 5th grade should even consider asking questions like that.

YOU even know better yourself. You just couldn't be bothered to think about it because all the noise of your political dogma barking drowned out the voice of reason.

sneakypete  posted on  2011-04-29   20:23:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#30. To: sneakypete (#18)

Rich foreigners won't be able to vote because they aren't citizens.

So what's the point of granting land owners the right to vote when so much of the land is owned by foreigners and banks?

I really have no idea what you think you will accomplish.

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