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Title: Robert Gibbs to Donald Trump: Where are the tax returns?
Source: Politico
URL Source: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0411/53816.html
Published: Apr 27, 2011
Author: JONATHAN MARTIN
Post Date: 2011-04-27 23:20:35 by A K A Stone
Keywords: None
Views: 56195
Comments: 73

Former White House press secretary and Obama confidante Robert Gibbs is throwing down the gauntlet on Donald Trump.

"Donald Trump said he’d release his tax returns as soon as the president released his birth certificate, so the ball is in his court now and I know everybody is anxious to see his tax returns over the last 10 years," Gibbs told POLITICO.

Trump first floated the trade-off in an interview with ABC earlier this month.

"Maybe I’m going to do the tax returns when Obama does his birth certificate," said the real estate mogul, whose wealth has long been a matter of dispute. "I may tie my tax returns [to the birth certificate]. I’d love to give my tax returns."

At a Wednesday morning news conference in New Hampshire following the president’s release of his birth certificate, Trump repeatedly ignored questions about whether he'd fulfill his pledge.

Asked later about Gibbs' comments, Trump told POLITICO: "Gibbs is a loser.”

Maggie Haberman contributed to this report.


Poster Comment:

Asked later about Gibbs' comments, Trump told POLITICO: "Gibbs is a loser.”

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#1. To: A K A Stone (#0)

I guess that means Trump is a liar.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-04-27   23:21:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Skip Intro (#1)

Actually, an abstract of a birth certificate is not a birth certificate.
Obama relesed an abstract.

socalv8  posted on  2011-04-28   1:40:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: socalv8 (#3)

He actually released a copy. An abstract is what the infamous COLB is.

war  posted on  2011-04-28   4:00:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: war (#4)

He actually released a copy. An abstract is what the infamous COLB is.

Doc#2 reads,

"I CERTIFY THIS IS A TRUE COPY OR ABSTRACT OF THE RECORD ON FILE IN THE HAWAII STATE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH"

Legalese exists for a reason.

Websters says-

Definition of ABSTRACT
1: a summary of points (as of a writing) usually presented in skeletal form; also : something that summarizes or concentrates the essentials of a larger thing or several things

dictionary .com defines it as-

–noun
6. a summary of a text, scientific article, document, speech, etc.; epitome.
7. something that concentrates in itself the essential qualities of anything more extensive or more general, or of several things; essence.
8. an idea or term considered apart from some material basis or object. EXPAND
9. an abstract work of art.

Essential qualities?!

socalv8  posted on  2011-04-28   12:37:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: socalv8 (#6)

Was that a verbose way of agreeing with me?

war  posted on  2011-04-28   12:42:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: war (#7)

Was that a verbose way of agreeing with me?

Must I agree or disagree with you on every post?
Care to discuss the document? Do you think the document released was the actual document or an abstract?

socalv8  posted on  2011-04-28   12:48:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: socalv8 (#8)

It was a "copy" of the actual document on file. The COLB is an abstract.

war  posted on  2011-04-28   13:50:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: war (#9)

It was a "copy" of the actual document on file.

A "true copy" wouldn't have the weird background. I contend it's an abstract as defined above.
How was the old COLB determined to be an abstract?

socalv8  posted on  2011-04-28   14:20:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: socalv8 (#10)

It's printed on the same paper used to print COLB's.

war  posted on  2011-04-28   17:57:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: war (#11)

It was a "copy" of the actual document on file. The COLB is an abstract.

-----

It's printed on the same paper used to print COLB's.

Thus, an abstract...not a true copy. Why?

socalv8  posted on  2011-04-28   18:15:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: socalv8 (#12) (Edited)

No.

It's a COPY of the information, verbatim, as opposed to an extract, excerpt, a summary of the essential information or a skeletal form of the information.

war  posted on  2011-04-28   19:33:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: war (#13)

It's a COPY of the information, verbatim

Source? All I see is TRUE COPY or ABSTRACT.
Did the WH actually claify the document's legalese?

socalv8  posted on  2011-04-29   1:53:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: socalv8 (#14)

Source?

The State of Hawaii.

Did the WH actually claify [sic] the document's legalese?

What "legalese"?

war  posted on  2011-04-29   1:59:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: war (#15)

What "legalese"?

"I CERTIFY THIS IS A TRUE COPY OR ABSTRACT OF THE RECORD ON FILE IN THE HAWAII STATE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH"

You said Doc#1 was an abstract...The State of Hawaii clearly says Doc#2 might be an abstract, too.

I think the TRUE COPY is gone.

2009 Report: Hawaii Health Department went paperless, discarded documents

http://comments.americanthinker.com/read/1/812820.html

socalv8  posted on  2011-04-29   2:27:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: socalv8 (#16)

The word "copy" can mean "replica" which Doc #2 clearly is.

Thanks for playing.

Any other 5th grade word games you wish to play?

war  posted on  2011-04-30   0:17:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: war (#21)

Any other 5th grade word games you wish to play?

No...you don't get anything the first time around.

socalv8  posted on  2011-04-30   2:21:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: socalv8 (#22)

Oh I doubt very highly that this our first time around.

war  posted on  2011-04-30   5:54:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: war (#25)

Oh I doubt very highly that this our first time around.

I remember a war at FR, but he was cool. You seem to call everyone a f-ng idiot and not discuss anything. I'll let you be.

socalv8  posted on  2011-04-30   10:21:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: socalv8 (#29) (Edited)

I was never "war" at FR. By the time I had registered there that name was taken.

As for you being a retread. Of course you are. This is not an easy site to find and it's fairly obvious that you're trying to adopt a "personae", e.g. you granting me "permission" in a backhanded way.

As for the other, arguing that making a copy of a record isn't a copy of a record isn't a copy of a good argument.

war  posted on  2011-04-30   12:38:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: war (#30)

I was never "war" at FR. By the time I had registered there that name was taken.

As for you being a retread. Of course you are. This is not an easy site to find

As for the other, arguing that making a copy of a record isn't a copy of a record isn't a copy of a good argument.

Fair enough on the name.
Yukon's "quinceanera" brought me here. FR>LP>LF. Nontread.

How's this, The Nordyke COLB says “true and CORRECT copy“. The Obama one says “true copy or ABSTRACT“.
Abstract can be defined as parts of different documents. Sounds fishy and will all pan out in the end. Maybe.

Call people f*cking idiots less.

socalv8  posted on  2011-05-01   1:38:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: socalv8 (#31)

Anyone who is still a birther IS a fucking idiot. Suggesting that I stop stating or censoring that fact doesn't obviate it. People should be called out for what they are. Birthers, now after-birthers, are fucking idiots.

The stamps on Obama's COLB and long form birth certificate have the same language, word for word.

war  posted on  2011-05-01   10:50:50 ET  (2 images) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: war (#37)

People who put their faith in Obama telling the truth are the idiots war.

You're such a fool.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-05-01   10:53:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: A K A Stone (#38)

This is the an inanimate object "telling the truth". And the conspiracy that you expect me to believe in this matter is Santa Claus and the Easter bunny rolled into one.

Then again, you ***think*** the earth is a few thousand years old and Jesus could have ridden a dinosaur if he wanted to.

war  posted on  2011-05-01   10:58:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: war (#39)

This is the an inanimate object "telling the truth".

You are making the "assumption" that it's the genuine article, only Obozo knows for sure.....

CZ82  posted on  2011-05-01   11:02:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: CZ82 (#40)

The State of Hawaii has stated, for about the 5th time, that it is.

war  posted on  2011-05-01   11:13:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: war (#41)

The State of Hawaii has stated, for about the 5th time, that it is.

And before that they said they couldn't find it.................. so what!!!!

Everybody can argue about it until they're blue in the face, and it won't do any good.... If people don't like the SOB just vote his ass out of office...

Like I said before only OBOZO knows for sure if he was born there or not.....

CZ82  posted on  2011-05-01   11:24:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: CZ82 (#42)

And before that they said they couldn't find it.................. so what!!!!

I challenge you here and now to produce such a statement made by any Hawaiian official.

war  posted on  2011-05-01   11:33:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#44. To: war (#43)

I challenge you here and now to produce such a statement made by any Hawaiian official.

thedailypen.blogspot.com/...iian-official-denies.html

CZ82  posted on  2011-05-01 11:39:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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