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Title: Obama's Birth Certificate Released - Proof it is Has Been Altered. Possible Fake?
Source: [None]
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Published: Apr 27, 2011
Author: 3truthseeker33
Post Date: 2011-04-27 19:48:44 by A K A Stone
Keywords: None
Views: 32473
Comments: 79

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#1. To: All (#0)

I wonder what Obama is going to do if the polls say most people think the birth certificate is faked.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-04-27   19:52:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: A K A Stone (#1)

If you take any document and convert it to a PDF then look at it in Illustrator, it will have layers.

Don't believe me? Try it yourself.

Another totally bullshit non-issue.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-04-27   20:17:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Skip Intro (#3)

If you take any document and convert it to a PDF then look at it in Illustrator, it will have layers.

A scanned document would not have layers, you liar.

Rudgear  posted on  2011-04-27   20:22:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Rudgear (#6)

A scanned document would not have layers, you liar.

What does scanned have to do with it? The document everyone is looking at is a PDF file released by the White House. Try it yourself, moron.

Make a document, any document. Type your grocery list.

Use Adobe Acrobat and convert it to a PDF file.

Open that file in Illustrator. Open the layers palette.

Tell me what you see.

Call me a liar again without any basis and you go on bozo, bozo.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-04-27   20:27:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Skip Intro (#8)

A scanned document, and that's what this fake purports to be, would not have layers. It would scan as a one dimensional graphic with no differentiation between background and text. Why would it have layers? A scanner or PDF program isn't intelligent. It can't distinguish between readable text and background. But someone deliberately constructing new text over another document would layer it, piece by piece.

btw, screw you. Hide behind your filter, coward and liar that you are.

Rudgear  posted on  2011-04-27   20:33:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Rudgear (#10)

Why would it have layers? A scanner or PDF program isn't intelligent. It can't distinguish between readable text and background.

That isn't entirely true, Rudgear. In today's world most scanned images use a vectored approach (layers) towards graphics for electronic data distribution. And very often Adobe PDF Writer is used to perform that task. In fact, Adobe CAN extract text from an image, minimizing manual re-typing.

I have the Professional version of Adobe and use it all the time.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-04-27   20:39:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: buckeroo (#13)

I have the Professional version of Adobe and use it all the time.

Then just try what I suggested. See for yourself.

Hell, scan a file. Convert it to a PDF. Look at it in Illustrator.

It WILL HAVE LAYERS.

End of story.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-04-27   20:40:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Skip Intro (#15)

Well said. I have no argument with your statements. I think a lot of folks just don't understand contemporary graphic art and associated software is all.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-04-27   20:43:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: buckeroo (#17)

Well said. I have no argument with your statements. I think a lot of folks just don't understand contemporary graphic art and associated software is all.

I didn't understand it myself when the layer issue was brought up, so I spent all of five minutes testing it. Like you, I have the pro version of Acrobat as well as Illustrator.

It's funny that not one of these internet "experts" thought of doing the same thing.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-04-27   20:46:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Skip Intro (#18)

It's funny that not one of these internet "experts" thought of doing the same thing.

It isn't their fault from a true sense. Technology is moving so rapidly that it is hard for the average layman to keep up with much less experts in a given field.

There is no argument about the authenticity of 0bama's birth as a US Citizen; there never really was one. Just like the Internet production of the COLB from some four years ago from Hawaii, it has been challenged.

All we can do is sit back and enjoy the show.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-04-27   20:51:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: buckeroo (#20)

All we can do is sit back and enjoy the show.

It's almost as good as watching the Three Yukons.

BTW, for anyone who is interested, here's a link on how birth certificates are to be filled out from the National Center for Health Statistics.

Note box 25 (Father's Race). Read how it's to be determined.

Also, if you look at this file in Illustrator, IT HAS LAYERS!!!!!!!!!!!

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-04-27   20:57:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Skip Intro (#24)

IT HAS LAYERS!!!!!!!!!!!

Lol, they wouldn't believe you if gatlin himself took on your case.

Biff Tannen  posted on  2011-04-27   21:59:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Biff Tannen, Skip Intro (#34)

Skip. Can you make a video and put it on youtube.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-04-27   22:01:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: A K A Stone (#36)

A video of what, aka?

Actually, skip, if you had a kitten I wouldn't mind a video of it riding on of those little robot vacuums. I never get tired of that.

Biff Tannen  posted on  2011-04-27   22:06:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Biff Tannen (#41)

Actually, skip, if you had a kitten I wouldn't mind a video of it riding on of those little robot vacuums. I never get tired of that.

I'll see if I can work it into my schedule. While you're waiting, perhaps this will do.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-04-27   22:15:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Skip Intro (#48)

A truly multi-layered video

Biff Tannen  posted on  2011-04-27   22:21:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Biff Tannen (#50)

A truly multi-layered video

I agree. If you watch really closely the true story of the Obama BC deception will be made clear.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-04-27   22:26:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Skip Intro, buckeroo (#51)

The ONLY way that you could take this document as proof of anything is to have gone in with a predetermined bias.

OK, PDF's have layers. But can those layers be edited? Could this have been faked?

If the answer to either of those questions is yes, then this cannot be considered as proof of anything, except maybe that people are gullible when they have preconceived biases.

We The People  posted on  2011-04-27   22:45:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: We The People (#52)

The ONLY way that you could take this document as proof of anything is to have gone in with a predetermined bias.

I fully concur. I believe 0bama was born in the USA. The reason is simple: not one piece of data has disproved the notion other than forged attempts in all kinds of ways. Plus, I have to be honest, that World Nuts Daily senior writer by the name of Jerome Corsi cooked upped an earlier CT that went away, remember the Amero and the attempt at creating one government in Mexico, Canada and the USA? And that BS highway to connect the three countries.

Corsi pounded that idea EVERYDAY, too. Where is it? And now he has an all new sensational piece he writes about this new CT concerning a BC.

It is just fun to me. I wouldn't place a nickel on that man's credibility to save anyone's life.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-04-27   23:01:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: All (#53) (Edited)

"We hope that issuing certified copies of the original certificate of live birth to President Obama will end the numerous inquiries related to his birth in Hawaii," Fuddy said in a prepared statement Wednesday. Fuddy said she viewed the records and that they "further prove the fact that he was born in Hawaii."

http://www.wmbfnews.com/story/14527350/hawaii-government-hands-over-obamas- birth-records

Dream on lady.

Oh, and just as an aside, does anyone know what those "shocking" revelations Trump's alleged investigators allegedly found during their alleged search in Hawaii. I don't believe that The Donald has ever mentioned them again after the first time.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-04-27   23:12:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Skip Intro (#54)

Fuddy

Who is Fuddy? I've never heard of her. Is she credible? If so how do you know she is?

Just askin.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-04-27   23:15:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: A K A Stone (#55)

Who is Fuddy? I've never heard of her. Is she credible? If so how do you know she is?

That's why I always give you links. But, just for you,

"On April 22, Obama and his personal attorney wrote letters to Health Director Loretta Fuddy.

In them, they argued that a waiver would allow Obama to make public his original birth certificate and relieve the state from the burdens that came with the repeated inquiries.

"We hope that issuing certified copies of the original certificate of live birth to President Obama will end the numerous inquiries related to his birth in Hawaii," Fuddy said in a prepared statement Wednesday.

Fuddy said she viewed the records and that they "further prove the fact that he was born in Hawaii."

After Fuddy approved the exception, Obama's attorney, Judith L. Corley, picked up the documents in Hawaii and carried them back to Washington on a plane. The documents arrived around 5 p.m. Tuesday."

You know, that plane trip is probably the most expensive thing that Obama has had to spend on the BC issue. It quite easily could have cost $2 million if it was a private flight.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-04-27   23:19:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Skip Intro (#56)

Fuddy said she viewed the records and that they "further prove the fact that he was born in Hawaii."

Why not just release the original?

Why the coverup?

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-04-27   23:24:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: A K A Stone (#60)

Why not just release the original?

Why the coverup?

Release the original to who?

There is no cover-up.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-04-27   23:27:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: lucysmom (#62)

Release the original to who?

I guess they could release it to Obama who could then make a digital copy and put it on the internet so all the usual suspects could call it a fake.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-04-27   23:31:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: Skip Intro (#64)

I guess they could release it to Obama who could then make a digital copy and put it on the internet so all the usual suspects could call it a fake.

Its pretty clear that the only evidence acceptable to birthers is that which proves the black man doesn't belong in the oval office.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-04-27   23:43:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: lucysmom (#68)

Its pretty clear that the only evidence acceptable to birthers is that which proves the black man doesn't belong in the oval office.

Alan West is a black man who would make a wonderful President.

You wouldn't like him, though because he isn't a nigger -- like obama.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2011-04-28   10:02:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#76. To: no gnu taxes (#75)

You wouldn't like him, though because he isn't a nigger -- like obama.

Has he ever worked in the private sector?

lucysmom  posted on  2011-04-28 10:33:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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