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Title: Obama's Birth Certificate Released - Proof it is Has Been Altered. Possible Fake?
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Published: Apr 27, 2011
Author: 3truthseeker33
Post Date: 2011-04-27 19:48:44 by A K A Stone
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Views: 33001
Comments: 79

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#1. To: All (#0)

I wonder what Obama is going to do if the polls say most people think the birth certificate is faked.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-04-27   19:52:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: A K A Stone (#1)

If you take any document and convert it to a PDF then look at it in Illustrator, it will have layers.

Don't believe me? Try it yourself.

Another totally bullshit non-issue.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-04-27   20:17:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Skip Intro (#3)

If you take any document and convert it to a PDF then look at it in Illustrator, it will have layers.

A scanned document would not have layers, you liar.

Rudgear  posted on  2011-04-27   20:22:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Rudgear (#6)

A scanned document would not have layers, you liar.

What does scanned have to do with it? The document everyone is looking at is a PDF file released by the White House. Try it yourself, moron.

Make a document, any document. Type your grocery list.

Use Adobe Acrobat and convert it to a PDF file.

Open that file in Illustrator. Open the layers palette.

Tell me what you see.

Call me a liar again without any basis and you go on bozo, bozo.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-04-27   20:27:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Skip Intro (#8)

A scanned document, and that's what this fake purports to be, would not have layers. It would scan as a one dimensional graphic with no differentiation between background and text. Why would it have layers? A scanner or PDF program isn't intelligent. It can't distinguish between readable text and background. But someone deliberately constructing new text over another document would layer it, piece by piece.

btw, screw you. Hide behind your filter, coward and liar that you are.

Rudgear  posted on  2011-04-27   20:33:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Rudgear (#10)

Why would it have layers? A scanner or PDF program isn't intelligent. It can't distinguish between readable text and background.

That isn't entirely true, Rudgear. In today's world most scanned images use a vectored approach (layers) towards graphics for electronic data distribution. And very often Adobe PDF Writer is used to perform that task. In fact, Adobe CAN extract text from an image, minimizing manual re-typing.

I have the Professional version of Adobe and use it all the time.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-04-27   20:39:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: buckeroo (#13)

I have the Professional version of Adobe and use it all the time.

Then just try what I suggested. See for yourself.

Hell, scan a file. Convert it to a PDF. Look at it in Illustrator.

It WILL HAVE LAYERS.

End of story.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-04-27   20:40:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Skip Intro (#15)

Well said. I have no argument with your statements. I think a lot of folks just don't understand contemporary graphic art and associated software is all.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-04-27   20:43:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: buckeroo (#17)

Well said. I have no argument with your statements. I think a lot of folks just don't understand contemporary graphic art and associated software is all.

I didn't understand it myself when the layer issue was brought up, so I spent all of five minutes testing it. Like you, I have the pro version of Acrobat as well as Illustrator.

It's funny that not one of these internet "experts" thought of doing the same thing.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-04-27   20:46:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Skip Intro (#18)

It's funny that not one of these internet "experts" thought of doing the same thing.

It isn't their fault from a true sense. Technology is moving so rapidly that it is hard for the average layman to keep up with much less experts in a given field.

There is no argument about the authenticity of 0bama's birth as a US Citizen; there never really was one. Just like the Internet production of the COLB from some four years ago from Hawaii, it has been challenged.

All we can do is sit back and enjoy the show.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-04-27   20:51:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: buckeroo (#20)

All we can do is sit back and enjoy the show.

It's almost as good as watching the Three Yukons.

BTW, for anyone who is interested, here's a link on how birth certificates are to be filled out from the National Center for Health Statistics.

Note box 25 (Father's Race). Read how it's to be determined.

Also, if you look at this file in Illustrator, IT HAS LAYERS!!!!!!!!!!!

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-04-27   20:57:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Skip Intro (#24)

IT HAS LAYERS!!!!!!!!!!!

Lol, they wouldn't believe you if gatlin himself took on your case.

Biff Tannen  posted on  2011-04-27   21:59:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Biff Tannen, Skip Intro (#34)

Skip. Can you make a video and put it on youtube.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-04-27   22:01:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: A K A Stone (#36)

A video of what, aka?

Actually, skip, if you had a kitten I wouldn't mind a video of it riding on of those little robot vacuums. I never get tired of that.

Biff Tannen  posted on  2011-04-27   22:06:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Biff Tannen (#41)

Actually, skip, if you had a kitten I wouldn't mind a video of it riding on of those little robot vacuums. I never get tired of that.

I'll see if I can work it into my schedule. While you're waiting, perhaps this will do.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-04-27   22:15:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#50. To: Skip Intro (#48)

A truly multi-layered video

Biff Tannen  posted on  2011-04-27 22:21:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: Skip Intro (#48) (Edited)

Hey, look. Here's one that says Lee Harvey Oswald is Barack Obama's older twin.

Image and
video hosting
by TinyPic

We The People  posted on  2011-04-29 19:41:05 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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