Editor's note: Tune in to AC360° Tuesday beginning at 10 p.m. ET to see the remainder of Gary Tuchman's investigation into President Barack Obama's birthplace.
(CNN) -- Was Barack Obama really born in America?
A new CNN investigation reveals what most analysts have been saying since the so-called "birther" controversy erupted during the 2008 presidential campaign: Obama was born in the state of Hawaii on August 4, 1961. Period.
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While the president has made light of the controversy, the question remains political red meat for some of his critics. A recent CNN/Opinion Research Corporation poll showed that nearly 75% of Americans believe Obama was definitely or probably born in the United States. More than four in 10 Republicans, however, believe he probably or definitely was not born in America.
The U.S. Constitution says only "natural born" citizens can become president -- a vague clause that some members of the birther movement contend disqualifies Obama because, they insist, he was born outside the United States.
Skeptics contend, among other things, that Obama was born in his father's home country of Kenya. Potential GOP presidential candidate Donald Trump recently seized on the issue, saying he had doubts about Obama's background.
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CNN investigators in Honolulu, however, found nothing to reinforce those doubts.
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Dr. Chiyome Fukino, a former director of the Hawaii Department of Health and a Republican, told CNN in her most extensive comments to date that she has "no doubt" Obama was born in the state.
Obama's 2008 campaign produced a "certification of live birth," a document legally accepted as confirmation of a birth and routinely used for official purposes. Fukino, however, went one step further, taking advantage of a state law that allows certain public officials to examine a person's actual birth certificate if there is a "direct and tangible interest."
The president's actual certificate, she said, is stored in a vault in the building that houses the Department of Health. Ironically, unlike the certificate of live birth, it is no longer accepted for official usage.
Obama's certificate is "absolutely authentic," she said. "He was absolutely born here in the state of Hawaii."
In order to see what happens when someone born in Hawaii requests a birth certificate, CNN asked a current resident of the state -- Stig Waidelich -- if he could get a copy of the document.
Waidelich was born just hours after Obama in August 1961. Like Obama, Waidelich's birth was announced at the time in the Honolulu Star Bulletin newspaper.
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Waidelich, like Obama in 2008, was given a certification of live birth in response to his request.
Could Obama's 1961 birth announcement in the Honolulu Star Bulletin be a fake? Some conspiracy theorists say yes. Longtime Honolulu newspaper reporter Dan Nakaso says no.
"It's not possible," Nakaso told CNN. "Under the system that existed back then, there was no avenue for people to submit information that way. ... The information came directly from the state Department of Health."
Indeed, as CNN confirmed, all birth announcements at the time came directly from hospital birth records.
Could Obama, a self-proclaimed Christian, be preventing the distribution of copies of the original birth certificate because it identifies him as a Muslim?
Fukino says no. The original certificate includes no mention of the president's religion. And indeed, other original certificates from that time don't mention faith.
Obama could file a Freedom of Information Act request to view his original birth certificate and make copies. But at this point, the White House maintains, nothing will satisfy the doubters.
Rick Smethurst, a 2008 John McCain voter who now lives in Obama's childhood home in Hawaii, counts himself among the doubters. He wants to find someone who saw Obama immediately after the president was born.
Current Hawaii Gov. Neil Abercrombie says he did. Abercrombie, a Democrat, was friendly with Ann Dunham, Obama's mother, and remembers celebrating the birth.
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"Of course, we had no idea at the time that the future president of the United States was that little boy, that little baby," Abercrombie recalled. But "we are very, very happy ... that took place."
Professor Alice Dewey of the University of Hawaii was a faculty adviser to Dunham and also knew the future president when he was a child. She called the controversy "funny." She said there is "no way" Obama wasn't born in the state.
Dewey remembered a conversation in which Dunham compared the birth of Obama with that of his sister, Maya, who actually was born overseas.
"She said, 'When I had Maya, it was a lot of more difficult because Indonesia doesn't believe in painkillers while you're giving birth. ... Of course, in the United States, giving birth to Barry (Obama's childhood nickname) was quite different and much more comfortable,' " Dewey recalled.
Waidelich's mother, Monika, believes she saw Obama in Honolulu's Kapiolani Medical Center next to her son back in 1961.
"In those days, there were hardly any other black babies," she told CNN.
The hospital wouldn't show patient records from 1961, but the state's African-American population was less than 1% at the time.
Regardless of the evidence, there may be no convincing some of those who question the president's origins.
"I find it a bit amusing in the sense that (the issue) keeps resurfacing over and over again," Fukino said. "It really tells us that the whole conspiracy notion is out there (and) that if there is an issue that needs a following, they will find one.
"No matter what you do or say, it make no difference," she said.
Abercrombie, who tried to put an end to the controversy when he became governor, told CNN he just hopes that "people who have this political orientation towards the president respect us here in Hawaii."
"Respect his mother and father," the governor urged. "Respect the people I loved and the people that I knew, and the little boy who grew up here in paradise and became president."
That, the evidence suggests, may be easier said than done.
So.....,you are telling us the Hawaiian Supreme Court is telling the federal government to go piss up a rope when they demand actual birth certificates for government employees,including military members and ANYBODY that has a security clearance?
The issue of comity of state records was settled in the fourth article of the USCON.
The Hawaiian Supreme Court just bitch slapped someone like you on this very issue. Instead of spouting this Berfer nonsense - which makes you folks look like you're dribbing oatmeal - why not try to get informed?
§92F-13 Government records; exceptions to general rule. This part shall not require disclosure of:
(1) Government records which, if disclosed, would constitute a clearly unwarranted invasion of personal privacy;
(2) Government records pertaining to the prosecution or defense of any judicial or quasi-judicial action to which the State or any county is or may be a party, to the extent that such records would not be discoverable;
(3) Government records that, by their nature, must be confidential in order for the government to avoid the frustration of a legitimate government function;
(4) Government records which, pursuant to state or federal law including an order of any state or federal court, are protected from disclosure; and
(5) Inchoate and draft working papers of legislative committees including budget worksheets and unfiled committee reports; work product; records or transcripts of an investigating committee of the legislature which are closed by rules adopted pursuant to section 21-4 and the personal files of members of the legislature. [L 1988, c 262, pt of §1; am L 1993, c 250, §1]
Plus, Barry doesn't have a reputable track record in the birth certificate question.
Also, by accepting the so-called bc released today, what does it say about the argument the Barry shills on this board have been making with regard to the previous releases and claims? Or are we not meant to bring that question up?
The issue of comity of state records was settled in the fourth article of the USCON.
Wrong.
First off,your birth certificate belongs to YOU,not the state. The state merely functions as an official record keeper of births,much like churches used to do.
Secondly,when you sign a waiver authorizing the feral government to investigate your background for a government job or a security clearance,this gives them the legal right to access any state records on you.
And you MUST sign a document giving the feral government this permission or you can't get the job or get the security clearance.
Unless of course you are an affirmative action Senator or President.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
The House has the power to investigate Obama's eligibility and fortunately the majority in the House is Republican.
The American people do not know whether the current President achieved election by misrepresenting, innocently or by fraud, his eligibility for that office. I neither know nor suggest the answer to that question. But it would be a public service for the House of Representatives to employ its authority to determine those facts and to recommend any indicated changes in the law or the Constitution.
Not a SINGLE one of the exceptions you copied and pasted apply because producing a actual birth certificate was a REQUIRMENT,and when he signed up to run for president this included a waiver.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
Skippy,how do you know what his real birth certificate says? What the pretend president released is another COLB,NOT an actual birth certificate.
Don't trust me on this,go look at the form and see what your lying eyes tell you is the name of the document.
Birth Certificates are created by hospitals where babies are born and are 1st party documents. The doctor signing them and the hospital that certifies the birth don't NEED to be told somebody was born to somebody else. They were there and saw it happen and participated in it in an active role.
COLB's are created by the state from 3rd party information.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
Mine does. Every birth certificate I have ever seen has one. Hospitals have always done this in case babies get mixed up in hospitals. Granted,the total number is maybe 4 or 5,but they weren't all from the same state.
Maybe you were found in a ditch or in a van down by the river,so all you got was a COLB?
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
Plus, Barry doesn't have a reputable track record in the birth certificate question.
Or on anything else. This man lies so much he makes Bubba Bill Bush look like an honest man by comparison.
Hell,he even claims to have sat in a pew at church for 20 years while one of his closest friends preached sermons,and never heard a thing that was said.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
I've been saying all along this man is a complete media fiction: ordered up from liberal central casting based of focus group polling. EVERYTHING about this person is a lie buried within a lie. He's ten times the empty suit Bush I ever was.
The House has the power to investigate Obama's eligibility and fortunately the majority in the House is Republican.
They won't,though. No president is EVER going to be brought up on criminal charges,period.
Professional courtesy is still alive and unwell amongst the professional criminal class we call career politicians.
I have said it before and I will say it again. The Pretend President could eat a live white baby on national tv during prime time,and he still wouldn't be removed from office or even charged with a crime.
We screwed up and "hired" somebody we can't fire because he is off-white.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
Also. Obama in his alleged book he wrote. Said he found his birth certificate in a book. Where is the fold?
That wasn't a birth certificate that was released today. It was just another COLB. This time the long form instead of the short form.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
We screwed up and "hired" somebody we can't fire because he is off-white.
I didn't hire that commie prick. I knew what he was being installed to do. Make no mistake: he was installed, not elected, by the bankers and media elite.
The Republican budget goes after children and the poor. Courage would be going after defense and the rich. Bill Maher
Unless she requires a keeper and is led around on a lease,Lucy is going to sue the HELL out of you when she is an adult for telling everybody you are her mother.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
It is time to press GOP members of the House for a full investigation!
LOL! Good one!
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
I've been saying all along this man is a complete media fiction: ordered up from liberal central casting based of focus group polling. EVERYTHING about this person is a lie buried within a lie. He's ten times the empty suit Bush I ever was.
Amen! This needs to be said over and over again.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
Make no mistake: he was installed, not elected, by the bankers and media elite.
"Make no mistake: he was installed, not elected, by the bankers that own the media elites,just like Poppy Bush,Bill Clinton,and Boy Jorge."
There,I fixed it for you.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
Unless she requires a keeper and is led around on a lease,Lucy is going to sue the HELL out of you when she is an adult for telling everybody you are her mother.
She is an adult and has been living off the "lease" for a long time, but thanks for your concern.
The Republican budget goes after children and the poor. Courage would be going after defense and the rich. Bill Maher
She is an adult and has been living off the "lease" for a long time,
Under an assumed name in another state?
NOBODY that doesn't have to stamp their feet to count would want people to know their mother quotes Bill Maher because she is impressed with his intellect.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
Not a SINGLE one of the exceptions you copied and pasted apply because producing a actual birth certificate was a REQUIRMENT,and when he signed up to run for president this included a waiver.
Please show me where that "requirement" is codified in law.
Awwww....sneak...I don;t know who should be more embarrassed...you for claiming another man's name would be on it or Boofer for claiming that "Moslem" would be on it.
Please show me where that "requirement" is codified in law.
Don't be a bigger ass than you already are. You know damn good and well the federal government requires a birth certificate in order to approve a security clearance or join the military.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
Awwww....sneak...I don;t know who should be more embarrassed...
I'm just grateful MY name isn't on it. It could have been anybody,given that it was just produced a day or two ago.
BTW,check out the "Top Ten Reasons...." post I just made on LP.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
The POTUS gets his security clearance from the USCON.
Some pigs really ARE more equal than other pigs.
For example,Alcee Hastings is a proven felon that sold his office for personal gain when he was a judge,yet he has access to Top Secret national defense material because he is in Congress and on the "right" committee.
He wouldn't be allowed to enlist in the army or carry mail for the post office,yet he is allowed to write and pass laws and see national defense secrets.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
