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Title: Pat Buchanan: Show the birth certificate! Former presidential candidate says Obama exhibiting 'arrogance'
Source: worldnetdaily
URL Source: http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=289345
Published: Apr 21, 2011
Author: Patrick Buchanan
Post Date: 2011-04-21 07:49:00 by A K A Stone
Keywords: None
Views: 12480
Comments: 33

Two-time GOP presidential candidate and longtime political analyst Pat Buchanan says Barack Obama should just show his birth certificate to put an end to questions over his eligibility to occupy the Oval Office.

His comments came in an interview on MSNBC, where he serves as a political analyst:

Buchanan said he agrees with Mitt Romney in that he believes Obama was born in Hawaii, and the newspapers probably were accurate in reporting his birth there in 1961.

However, he said, "I do agree with Donald Trump when he said, 'Why is Barack Obama toying with the American people? Why doesn't he just produce this and end this controversy.'"

Said Buchanan, a founder and editor of The American Conservative and columnist for WND, "I think it shows a real arrogance of power."

He also challenged the White House press corps to simply demand the answers, to which Bill Press, another WND columnist, responded that Obama's eligibility "is a total non-issue."

Press also claimed that "in 2007 the president produced his birth certificate. They put it online. … End of story."

However, what was posted online by the Obama campaign was a computer-generated image of a "Certification of Live Birth," a short-form document any Hawaii resident could have obtained at the time simply by declaring the birth had taken place in the state.

Press ridiculed the entire idea that Obama might not have been born in Hawaii.

"Do you really think some woman in Kenya gave birth [and decided] to plant a story somewhere … and put two notices in newspapers because someday this little kid an hour old is going to run for the president of the USA?"

The notices, however, were issued by the Hawaii Department of Health, based on its registry of births, and not checked by the newspapers.

A YouTube forum participant responded to Press' insistance that the only alternative explanation for the newspapers notices was an implausible conspiracy.

"Nobody in the world has ever wanted their children to be considered American?" the participant wrote. "Except the ones who want their kid to be president? LOL. Anchor babies anybody?"

When Buchanan was asked by MSNBC why he was "wasting" time talking about the issue, he responded, "I'm wasting my time because you invited me here to talk about the birther issue."

Also cited was the fact that almost three of four GOP members in Iowa either don't believe Obama's birth narrative or doubt it. Another contributor noted billionaire Donald Trump repeatedly has discussed the issue and "went from being a clown to being No. 2 or No. 1 on the polls."

Buchanan said he believes Obama was born in Hawaii, "but I believe we ought to see the birth certificate."

Other comments on the YouTube forum page:

* If this is a nonissue then why doesn't Obama just produce the thing. I think even nonbirthers are starting to get annoyed at Obama's blatant arrogance of power by refusing to submit it while posting a COLB and calling it a birth certificate.

* His father is not American. Case closed.

* The reason this is important is because if Barry is a fraud then we have a constitutional crisis on our hands and the government is illegitimate.

* This guy (Bill Press) giggles when the only real reporter in the room challenges this issue. Press corps is bankrupt but for WND's Les Kinsolving.


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#1. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Pat Buchanan says Barack Obama should just show his birth certificate to put an end to questions over his eligibility to occupy the Oval Office.

Seems simple enough. Bozobama used to claim he had a vault copy of his birth certificate in his possession. Just cough it up, dude.

Sebastian  posted on  2011-04-21   7:59:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Sebastian (#1)

Seems simple enough. Bozobama used to claim he had a vault copy of his birth certificate in his possession.

I had never heard that one.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-04-21   8:00:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: A K A Stone (#2)

I had never heard that one.

Early on it the campaign, Bozobama's campaign claimed he had a copy. Since then, it has been claimed that the birth certificate was destroyed in a house fire.

The latest I've seen reported is DOH Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino says she's seen the vault copy and Hawaii governor Neil Abercrombie says he looked and couldn't find it.

Sebastian  posted on  2011-04-21   8:12:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Sebastian (#3)

Early on it the campaign, Bozobama's campaign claimed he had a copy.

Challenge...

America...My Kind Of Place...

war  posted on  2011-04-21   9:03:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: A K A Stone (#0)

"I do agree with Donald Trump when he said, 'Why is Barack Obama toying with the American people? Why doesn't he just produce this and end this controversy.'"

America...My Kind Of Place...

war  posted on  2011-04-21   9:10:01 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: war (#5)

My birth certificate shows the hospital I was born in, is signed by the attending physician, and has my foot print on it.

That thing looks like a "monopoly money" birth certificate.

Now, I know I’m not going to change the minds of any of the True Believers…those who read all of Reverend Al’s sermons, and say things like, “You know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, …”. Can I get an ‘amen’??

no gnu taxes  posted on  2011-04-21   9:17:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: A K A Stone (#0)

msnbc is a hot bed for birthers across the board...which is ironic and telling as to why their ratings are little better than a test pattern.

Chrissy Mathews himself is a birther.

I hear you knockin...go back where you been....

Badeye  posted on  2011-04-21   9:30:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: no gnu taxes (#6)

My birth certificate shows the hospital I was born in, is signed by the attending physician, and has my foot print on it.

Were you born in Hawaii?

America...My Kind Of Place...

war  posted on  2011-04-21   10:04:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Badeye (#7)

Chrissy Mathews himself is a birther.

Bullshit. Matthews believes he should release it to shut the birthers up and make them look like fools.

America...My Kind Of Place...

war  posted on  2011-04-21   10:06:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: no gnu taxes (#6)

That thing looks like a "monopoly money" birth certificate.

Take it up with Hawaii...

America...My Kind Of Place...

war  posted on  2011-04-21   10:06:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: war (#9)

Bullshit. Matthews believes he should release it to shut the birthers up and make them look like fools.

Thanks for finally admitting Obama didn't release a birth certificate.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-04-21   10:12:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: A K A Stone (#11)

I admitted no such thing. I stated Matthews' belief.

I have no issue with Obama's birth.

I do enjoy the hilarity that Berfers provide.

America...My Kind Of Place...

war  posted on  2011-04-21   10:29:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: A K A Stone, Sebastian, war (#2)

Seems simple enough. Bozobama used to claim he had a vault copy of his birth certificate in his possession.

If Obama did make that claim during his campaign, it shouldn't be too difficult to find a quote.

It is more likely that the source of the above is from Obama's book, "Dreams From My Father". From the book: I discovered this article, folded away among my birth certificat­e and old vaccinatio­n forms, when I was in high school. It's a short piece, with a photograph of him. No mention is made of my mother or me, and I'm left to wonder if the omission was intentional on my fathers part, in anticipation of his long departure..

The above has been quoted in part, “I discovered this article, folded away among my birth certificate and old vaccination forms, when I was in high school,” and followed by the comment, While this brief quote does not state WHAT article it is that Obama found, it does mention that he found it WITH his BIRTH CERTIFICATE. This would have been in the mid 70s, so this birth certificate would not have been a computer generated document.

james4america.wordpress.c...from-dreams-of-my-father/

Maybe the bc was an official vault copy, maybe it was a hospital souvenir, however, the discovery wasn't contemporary with the writing of the book and there is little reason to believe he still has it all these years later.

As for the article mentioned, we do indeed know what it was about, and when it was written.

The Republican budget goes after children and the poor. Courage would be going after defense and the rich. Bill Maher

lucysmom  posted on  2011-04-21   10:31:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: war (#5)

DNC issued cerificate is all you need !

If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2011-04-21   10:44:08 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: BorisY (#14)

Banjo Boy, give it a rest.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-04-21   10:51:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: lucysmom (#13)

Maybe the bc was an official vault copy, maybe it was a hospital souvenir, however, the discovery wasn't contemporary with the writing of the book and there is little reason to believe he still has it all these years later

I obtained a similiar copy with my footprints and everything when I got my first driver's license . I can't seem to find it after five moves. Damn every kid now needs to keep a personal dossier from birth incase they want to be president. Paperwork means so much to Tea Baggers.

"http://first-draft-blog.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c5ced53ef0148c7a28c4b970c-320wi"

Rek  posted on  2011-04-21   11:19:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Fred Mertz (#15)

To: This Just In

the religion of the Left depends upon moral relativism. For them, the pitching of Christianity gives them the ability to accept moral relativism. This is at their peril and the peril of the human race. It is the beginning stage (( anarchy )) to totalitarianism.

12 posted on Wednesday, April 20, 2011 19:09:45 by jonrick46 (2012 can't come soon enough.)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2708184/posts

If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2011-04-21   11:42:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: BorisY (#17) (Edited)

the religion of the Left depends upon moral relativism. For them, the pitching of Christianity gives them the ability to accept moral relativism. This is at their peril and the peril of the human race. It is the beginning stage (( anarchy )) to totalitarianism.

And the religion of the the conservative right..."Your paperwork please". Don't worry..... you 'chosen ones' where moral relativism was originally concocted have all the bases covered anyway.

"http://first-draft-blog.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c5ced53ef0148c7a28c4b970c-320wi"

Rek  posted on  2011-04-21   11:49:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Rek (#18)

..."Your paperwork please".

Rugged individualist don't want ' protectionism - closed borders ' !

rugged neocoms - socialist fascist nazis do !

If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2011-04-21   11:53:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Rek (#16)

I obtained a similiar copy with my footprints and everything when I got my first driver's license . I can't seem to find it after five moves. Damn every kid now needs to keep a personal dossier from birth incase they want to be president. Paperwork means so much to Tea Baggers.

It's not hard for me to believe that Obama doesn't have the birth certificate he found in the 70s, I recently couldn't find mine that I'd gotten in 2005.

If I were Obama, by now I'd be regretting that I ever made public my CoLB. It was the now totally discredited tech dude and polarik that raised the question of the CoLB's authenticity; without the CoLB, they couldn't have raised the question.

The Republican budget goes after children and the poor. Courage would be going after defense and the rich. Bill Maher

lucysmom  posted on  2011-04-21   11:55:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: BorisY (#19)

Rugged individualist don't want ' protectionism - closed borders ' !

rugged neocoms - socialist fascist nazis do !

I'm sorry that not everyone adopts your 'happiness' as their own. I'm sure you have a label for those too.

"http://first-draft-blog.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c5ced53ef0148c7a28c4b970c-320wi"

Rek  posted on  2011-04-21   11:58:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Rek (#21)

My ' happiness ' !

I live in reality !

If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2011-04-21   12:04:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Rek (#21)

a label for those too.

psychos !

If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2011-04-21   12:05:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: BorisY (#22)

I live in reality !

Boris, everyone thinks that.

The Republican budget goes after children and the poor. Courage would be going after defense and the rich. Bill Maher

lucysmom  posted on  2011-04-21   12:09:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: lucysmom (#24) (Edited)

everyone thinks that

Arrested - suppressed reality - denial is a way of permanent life in america !

About 90 % established now thanks to liberal - libertarians !

If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2011-04-21   12:14:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: BorisY (#25)

Arrested - suppressed reality - denial is a way of permanent life in america !

About 90 % established now !

Heh.... not everyone gets to live in Maui.

"http://first-draft-blog.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c5ced53ef0148c7a28c4b970c-320wi"

Rek  posted on  2011-04-21   12:15:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: lucysmom, Badeye (#13)

From the book: I discovered this article, folded away among my birth certificat­e and old vaccinatio­n forms, when I was in high school.

Hmm. Barack wanted to be ruler from a young age.

He wrote a book where he wove his birth certificate into the story.

He must have been planning ahead. Knowing that the question of his birthplace would be asked when it became obvious he wasn't from this country.

He wasn't born here.

And I'm sure even Badeye would agree that he is not a cultural American.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-04-21   20:49:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: A K A Stone (#27)

He wrote a book where he wove his birth certificate into the story.

He must have been planning ahead. Knowing that the question of his birthplace would be asked when it became obvious he wasn't from this country.

He wasn't born here.

Proving the "Law of Otherwise".

The Republican budget goes after children and the poor. Courage would be going after defense and the rich. Bill Maher

lucysmom  posted on  2011-04-21   23:26:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: A K A Stone (#27)

And I'm sure even Badeye would agree that he is not a cultural American.

I don't understand what you mean here, Stone.

I hear you knockin...go back where you been....

Badeye  posted on  2011-04-22   9:48:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Badeye (#29)

I mean he doesn't think like a traditional American.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-04-22   9:52:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: A K A Stone (#30)

I mean he doesn't think like a traditional American.

Hmmm. I'd say its apparent he thinks like a traditional liberal American.

I hear you knockin...go back where you been....

Badeye  posted on  2011-04-22   10:21:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Badeye (#31)

Hmmm. I'd say its apparent he thinks like a traditional liberal American.

Liberals don't think like traditional Americans either. But Obama is even more "extreme" in the wrong direction.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-04-22   10:24:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: A K A Stone (#32)

Liberals don't think like traditional Americans either. But Obama is even more "extreme" in the wrong direction.

You know...actually he's not 'more extreme' than garden variety liberals. The difference is he acts upon it as a liberal, without any attempt at disguising it.

I hear you knockin...go back where you been....

Badeye  posted on  2011-04-22   12:07:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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