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Title: Obama to Sell GM Stock at Huge Loss to Taxpayers
Source: American Thinker
URL Source: http://www.americanthinker.com/blog ... _to_sell_gm_stock_at_huge.html
Published: Apr 20, 2011
Author: J. Robert Smith
Post Date: 2011-04-20 19:28:36 by CZ82
Keywords: None
Views: 17639
Comments: 44

Obama to Sell GM Stock at Huge Loss to Taxpayers J. Robert Smith Wasn't the Obama administration supposed to make money back on a sale of GM stock? Or so Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner and other administration officials suggested back in 2009. Now taxpayers learn that Mr. Obama wants out of GM and is willing to sell Washington's stockholdings short - to the tune of an estimated $11 billion loss. That's $11 billion in losses to taxpayers.

Why would Mr. Obama want to dump GM stock for a huge loss now? Why not hold GM stock until the government can at least recover taxpayers' money? The answer is that GM stock prices may be heading south, not north, in the coming months. According to a Wall Street Journal report, Mr. Obama may have decided to get out of GM while the getting isn't wholly disastrous.

Government officials are willing to take the loss because the Obama administration would like to sever its last ties to the auto maker, the people familiar with the matter said. A summer sale makes it more likely Treasury could sell all of its stake in GM by year's end, avoiding a potentially controversial sale in the 2012 presidential election year. [Italics added]

For Mr. Obama's presidential re-election effort, a "potentially controversial sale [of GM stock] in 2012" could translate into a damaging political liability. Mr. Obama and his handlers would rather have the bad news of a huge GM taxpayer dollar loss come now. Time and events, the thinking goes, could mitigate the political damage to Mr. Obama.

Washington would have to get about $53 a share to break even on the taxpayers' "investment" in GM. As of yesterday, GM stock was selling for a little less than $30 a share. There's concern that with rising gas prices, among other factors, GM stock prices may fall further as the year progresses.

Mr. Obama has the cheekiness to tell Americans that taxes surely need to rise to help retire the outrageous national debt that he's done so much to incur. And then Americans learn that $11 billion in their hard earned money is about to fly out the window because Mr. Obama chose to rescue an automaker - GM - that, because of mismanagement, union greed, and market forces, should have long been on its way to fossil status.

If - or when - GM hits the skids again, will Mr. Obama seek to rescue the struggling automaker? What's billions of taxpayer dollars more down the drain when stacked against about $12 trillion in national debt? And there are always tax hikes to cover the cost of bailing out GM again. After all, Americans are about shared responsibility, aren't they?


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#5. To: war (#2)

you'll have to excuse me if I don't believe a blogger.

I would say a lot of people have gotten the word.....

news.tradingchar ts.com/futures/5/8/157174885.html

online.wsj.com/article/SB...4576271382418887092.html? mod=e2tw

www.torquenews.com/106/fe...ernment-wants-out-gm-deal

www.knoxnews.com/news/201...hing-when-sell-its-stake/

www.joplinglobe.com/daily...-CEO-US-weighing-when-to- sell-its-stake

conservativeviewsforthegr...2011/04/obama-screws-tax- payer-11-billion-in.html

Here this enough for you????

"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning

CZ82  posted on  2011-04-21   6:18:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Happy Quanzaa (#3)

With gas prices going to $6.00/gal by summer why isn't there a waiting list for these wonderful new Obama engineered vehicles?

People know a POS when they see it.... well at least "some" do.....

"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning

CZ82  posted on  2011-04-21   6:29:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: war (#2)

GM shares fall to a new low

General Motors shares fell to a new low of 29.59... The government would need to sell the shares at about $53 apiece to break even.

Another Obama disaster...


"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899

jwpegler  posted on  2011-04-21   7:13:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: CZ82 (#5) (Edited)

The U.S. government plans to sell a significant share of its remaining stake in General Motors Co. this summer despite the disappointing performance of the auto maker's stock, people familiar with the matter said.

No.

Never trust an anonymous source.

GM wanted the US to sell its entire stake at the IPO. The idea that the US would sell its remaining stake is about 2 months old, btw.

I do find the imaptience of those who advocate "trickle down" conomic theories to be hilarious tho...

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war  posted on  2011-04-21   8:36:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: jwpegler (#7)

Another Obama disaster...

See my comment above...

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war  posted on  2011-04-21   8:43:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: CZ82 (#5)

All of those articles are quoting the same media "source".

America...My Kind Of Place...

war  posted on  2011-04-21   8:45:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: jwpegler (#7)

Another Obama disaster...

...as predicted.

I hear you knockin...go back where you been....

Badeye  posted on  2011-04-21   9:28:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: war (#10)

All of those articles are quoting the same media "source".

Straight from a spokesperson for GM........

"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning

CZ82  posted on  2011-04-21   16:10:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: CZ82 (#12)

GM wanted them to sell it @ the IPO.

But the "media source" is the WSJ.

America...My Kind Of Place...

war  posted on  2011-04-21   18:57:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: war (#9) (Edited)

See my comment above...

Which means nothing.

I completely understand that as a leftist, you don't know anything at all about math.

I'll take you back to third grade:

29 BILLION - 53 BILLION = - 24 BILLION. That's called a LOSS. It's what the GM bailout cost the taxpayers.

More importantly, Obama BROKE THE LAW so he could STEAL General Motors from its Bond Holders and turn it over to his union buddies, who provide funds and muscle for his campaigns.

Obama is a CRIMINAL, who should be jailed.


"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899

jwpegler  posted on  2011-04-21   19:44:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: jwpegler (#14)

That's called a LOSS. It's what the GM bailout cost the taxpayers.

What would it have cost had GM gone into bankruptcy, its assets sold and the company totally dissolved?

Here's s hint...its employees would become ex-employees and the pensioners would no longer be receiving pensions...

America...My Kind Of Place...

war  posted on  2011-04-21   21:26:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: jwpegler (#14)

More importantly, Obama BROKE THE LAW so he could STEAL General Motors from its Bond Holders

Bond holders don't own a company.

And what criminal law are you claiming that he broke?

America...My Kind Of Place...

war  posted on  2011-04-21   21:28:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: war (#8)

No.

Never trust an anonymous source.

Hang on to those GM stocks war. Buy more.

There will NEVER be another GM product in my household.

Tag line: I wuz HACKED, cuz I SAY so!

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2011-04-21   21:36:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: war (#15)

What would it have cost had GM gone into bankruptcy, its assets sold and the company totally dissolved?

Stop being a drama queen. Since when does that ever happen in a Chapter 11 bankruptcy?

Now, I know I’m not going to change the minds of any of the True Believers…those who read all of Reverend Al’s sermons, and say things like, “You know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, …”. Can I get an ‘amen’??

no gnu taxes  posted on  2011-04-21   21:41:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: no gnu taxes (#18)

Since when does that ever happen in a Chapter 11 bankruptcy?

First off, you're confusing me with Yukon.

Secondly, that is EXACTLY what people were advocating to not only bust the union but to punish union pensioners.

Thirdly, fuck you.

America...My Kind Of Place...

war  posted on  2011-04-21   21:57:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Wood_Chopper (#17)

I don't own any GM stock.

And good for you...that's what choice is all about...

America...My Kind Of Place...

war  posted on  2011-04-21   21:58:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: war (#19) (Edited)

The union destroyed GM, but you won't admit that because you are completely disingenuous in all your arguments.

Now, I know I’m not going to change the minds of any of the True Believers…those who read all of Reverend Al’s sermons, and say things like, “You know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, …”. Can I get an ‘amen’??

no gnu taxes  posted on  2011-04-21   22:05:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: no gnu taxes (#18)

What would it have cost had GM gone into bankruptcy, its assets sold and the company totally dissolved?

Stop being a drama queen. Since when does that ever happen in a Chapter 11 bankruptcy?

Shouldn't have the Senior Debt Holders gotten control of GM instead of the Unions??????

"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning

CZ82  posted on  2011-04-22   7:13:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: no gnu taxes (#21)

Blah blah blah..

Not making goof cars ruined GM. Then, when they began to, it was too late.

But thanks for verifying that this was about union busting more than anything else.

America...My Kind Of Place...

war  posted on  2011-04-22   10:56:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: CZ82 (#22)

Debt holders don't own the company.

America...My Kind Of Place...

war  posted on  2011-04-22   10:56:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: war (#24)

In bankruptcy they get first dibs. Except when you have a Kenyan running things in America.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-04-22   10:59:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: A K A Stone (#25)

In bankruptcy they get first dibs.

Not necessarily. The only guarantee a Sr. Bond holder gets is that IF there IS a liquidation and payout then they MAY get paid first. If there are vendor claims or liens against property or inventory then they will not be paid first. Thus the term "unsecured".

America...My Kind Of Place...

war  posted on  2011-04-22   11:08:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: war (#26)

Didn't the unions get something?

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-04-22   11:10:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: A K A Stone (#27) (Edited)

They got their benefits protected.

FWIW, GM went into bankruptcy because of the bondholders.

America...My Kind Of Place...

war  posted on  2011-04-22   11:15:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: war (#16) (Edited)

And what criminal law are you claiming that he broke?

Grand Larceny and Continuing a Criminal Enterprise.


"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899

jwpegler  posted on  2011-04-22   11:18:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: war (#15)

What would it have cost had GM gone into bankruptcy, its assets sold and the company totally dissolved?

Jackass -- do you even know what bankruptcy is? Apparently not.


"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899

jwpegler  posted on  2011-04-22   11:20:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: jwpegler (#30)

Jackass -- do you even know what bankruptcy is? Apparently not.

Bankruptcy is, in fact, a general term in which a person or an entity comes under the auspices of a court constitututed for the specific purpose of handling bankruptcy and which court then determines which course of action should be undertaken which can range from anything to simple creditor protection, to reorganziation, including recapitalization, or a total dissolution.

Why do you ask?

America...My Kind Of Place...

war  posted on  2011-04-22   11:26:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: jwpegler (#29)

Grand Larceny and Continuing a Criminal Enterprise.

Cite the criminal code, dumbass. Speaking in Right Wing Media speak isn't getting it donw.

America...My Kind Of Place...

war  posted on  2011-04-22   11:34:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: war (#23)

What would it have cost had GM gone into bankruptcy, its assets sold and the company totally dissolved?

But thanks for verifying that this was about union busting more than anything else.

And just what is supposed to be your explanation of the congruence of those 2 statements MADE BY YOU?

If the union was busted, it would have been a gold mine for GM, not the dissolution of their company.

Now, I know I’m not going to change the minds of any of the True Believers…those who read all of Reverend Al’s sermons, and say things like, “You know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, …”. Can I get an ‘amen’??

no gnu taxes  posted on  2011-04-22   11:58:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: no gnu taxes (#33)

If the union was busted, it would have been a gold mine for GM, not the dissolution of their company.

As I said, thanks for verifying...

The only way that the union could be busted is through a dissolution.

I'll not the discongruence between you professing your love for the American people while simultaneously advocating policies that would devolve their economics to third world status...

America...My Kind Of Place...

war  posted on  2011-04-22   12:02:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: war (#34)

The union would never have been busted, just their unreasonable demands arbitrated to reasonable ones.

If the union was busted, GM could have more than willing new employees for relative pennies on the dollar, while giving the finger the union assholes.

Nothing you have posted on this is any way consistent or realistic.

Now, I know I’m not going to change the minds of any of the True Believers…those who read all of Reverend Al’s sermons, and say things like, “You know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, …”. Can I get an ‘amen’??

no gnu taxes  posted on  2011-04-22   12:06:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: CZ82 (#0)

The bottom line is the taxpayers got royally screwed in this insane bailout of a failed business model.

Exactly like so many of us predicted when it was done.

And we will end up doing it again, because the ugly truth is GM knows the government will bail them out. No penalty for fucking up, in short, guarantees another fuck up.

I hear you knockin...go back where you been....

Badeye  posted on  2011-04-22   12:09:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Badeye (#36)

I wonder what's REALLY going on at GM right now. What has actually changed? We get these stories of what a wonderful turnaround has occurred, but it seems all smoke and mirrors to me.

Now, I know I’m not going to change the minds of any of the True Believers…those who read all of Reverend Al’s sermons, and say things like, “You know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, …”. Can I get an ‘amen’??

no gnu taxes  posted on  2011-04-22   12:22:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Badeye (#36)

the taxpayers got royally screwed

And, the bondholders should feel a little better. They actually volunteered their cash and were screwed. Nobody asked us.

harrowup  posted on  2011-04-22   12:27:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: no gnu taxes (#37)

What has actually changed? We get these stories of what a wonderful turnaround has occurred, but it seems all smoke and mirrors to me.

The only change is the tax payers lost their ass, instead of the stockholders. Whats really amazing is how many times since the bailout the financial stability of GM has been grossly misrepresents by the mainstream media and the Owe-bama administration....not that the two aren't directly related to each other.

I hear you knockin...go back where you been....

Badeye  posted on  2011-04-22   12:40:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: no gnu taxes (#35)

Nothing you have posted on this is any way consistent or realistic.

Chuckles...yet your words come carved in stone carried down the mount.

The Union did not break GM. GM broke itself.

You want to blame the working man for trying to make a living while at the same time romanticizing the working man as not be able to make one under a democrat. The truth is, you could give a shit about the working man. All you care about is ceding to an artificial entity, i.e. a corporation, the freedom commensurate with personhood to meld with the power of money to screw the worker over. In other words, PaddyCakes, you care about mansions and not houses...

America...My Kind Of Place...

war  posted on  2011-04-22   13:38:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: war (#40)

You want to blame the working man for trying to make a living

60 bucks an hour for turning a wrench for 4 of 8 hours a day.

That's some living, I would say.

Shit, and think of all the spics who would gladly do it for 10 dollars an hour.

Now, I know I’m not going to change the minds of any of the True Believers…those who read all of Reverend Al’s sermons, and say things like, “You know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, …”. Can I get an ‘amen’??

no gnu taxes  posted on  2011-04-22   13:47:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: no gnu taxes (#41)

60 bucks an hour for turning a wrench for 4 of 8 hours a day.

Over 70 per hour last time I checked.

Compared to Toyota's average of around 44. Gee, I wonder why GM went tits up....

I hear you knockin...go back where you been....

Badeye  posted on  2011-04-22   14:14:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: no gnu taxes (#41)

60 bucks an hour for turning a wrench for 4 of 8 hours a day.

Why do you spout bullshit, PaddyCakes?

America...My Kind Of Place...

war  posted on  2011-04-22   18:36:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Badeye (#42)

Over 70 per hour last time I checked.

Chuckles...as if we needed verification that PaddyCakes was spouting bullshiut...

America...My Kind Of Place...

war  posted on  2011-04-22   18:36:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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