Stone, yukon said the best he remembers is that the exchange where I guessed his password on the first try was in a PM on LF. Yukon and I shared information by both email and by PM.
I was fed information and given support by LF posters through PM. I shared that information with yukon. The posters who fed information to me said they didnt believe yukon posted the thread but didnt want to get involved in the fray. As ruthless as the attackers are, I can fully understand that. They said Calcon abandoned his support for yukon and used me to save face, they condemned Calcon for doing that and said he yielded to peer pressure.
Stone, I dont trust you not to read the PMs on file at LF I believe that you do. I dont think you are an honorable person and I believe you to be devious. Therefore, all PMs in both yukons file and my file were deleted immediately after reading to preclude you snooping into the files and reading them. That is why the PM where I guessed the password no longer exists. I remember the exchange and yukon remembers the exchange and I dont give a rats shit whether you believe me or not.
Moving now to the specific point you and I were discussing
The only thing I have been able to find is one email that mentioned the password. I have extracted only the portion that pertains to the password since I dont want to reveal the information and opinions about the situation and about you that I received from posters on LF.
The extractions below are from emails sent and received after three of four (maybe more) quick exchanges were made by PM between yukon and I.
You will notice that I promised yukon I would honor confidentiality and contrary to you, I do have honor. I will never let you badger me into violating any promise I have given.
The email exchange below picks up on the discussion about the use of Ibluafartsky after I had guessed his password on the first try. I felt the need to move from PM to email at that particular point in our PM exchange.
My email to yukon: /snip/ > > Everything you have in these emails will be held in confidence > > by me... you know that. /snip/ > > The questions I have, just for understanding ... is why you will > > not admit that you are Ibluafartsky and what is the point of > > keeping anything that a secret. I ask this since I see nothing > > here that can be damaging to you. And I see nothing that will be > > needed to protect Stone (I think that is what you are trying to > > do). Again, this is for my information alone ... I just can't > > understand this. You must have a reason, valid to you. /snip/
Email reply from yukon: /snip/ > About the Ibluafartsky screen name. Someone registered the yukon > name on LF and at FF just to ridicule me. So I was forced to come > up with a screen name. I chose something flippant with the > password of fartsky. I didn't intend to post at LF much. I didn't > ever admit to being yukon because it rattled the CTs cages. I'd > always hoped I could eventually get the yukon screen name somehow > because whoever had registered it hadn't used it for a long time /snip/
The reason I continued to pursue why yukon would not reveal that he was Ibluafartsky was that war and I had several exchanges where war continually stated that if yukon admitted he was Ibluafartsky, then its all over.
I informed war that I would be more than happy to get that admission if he would only share with me what it would reveal. War would not do that he still has not. War would only say that he sent a PM to Ibluafartsky asking about his (alleged) coming out and the confirmation that he was a homo was in an answer Ibluafartsky posted back to him on the thread the hacker is alleged to have posted. War would not share the PM with me and nowhere can I find any confirmation that yukon is a homo in the specific post war refers to.
I tried to convey to war that his information was extremely weak and there was not enough there to support him to continually say he is was 100% convinced that yukon is homosexual and posted the thread. And to also repeatedly say to buckeroo that he was 100% convinced that Buck did not post the thread. The two statements wed too easily for me.
I am persistent, I continued to back war into a corner to get him to support his 100% conclusion that yukon was a homo. In the end, war would only say that he would no longer discuss the subject a copout!
I continue to believe that war should openly share the information that led him to his 100% conclusion, so that others may learn from it. Show the evidence, war, if you are so easily convinced then you should easily convince me that your conclusion is correct. Show the evidence, war, so that others may have a sound basis for their conviction and not use a quicksand base of prejudice upon which to form their conclusion.
I once trusted, and also respected you, war, for taking strong political positions (while I consistently disagreed with those positions) I no longer have that trust and respect, and I now strongly suspect your motives. I assure you that it pains me greatly and deeply saddens me to say this.
Stone, Goldi came out after only a few days and said that yukons ISP was different on the thread and she believed that yukon did not post the thread (not her exact works, but factually correct the thread has been deleted on LP).
Stone, you however are a fence sitter. It has now been four weeks and you have yet to take any kind of a position all you ever posted was one measly little piss-assed statement about an ISP. So, I say to you get your ass off that barb wire fence and borrow some balls from Goldi. Use them to show evidence and make a strong statement on your position. I have been informed privately that you dont believe yukon. While I will protect the confidence in which I received that information I will publicly ask you to confirm or to deny that you said that.
In conclusion:
I hold a very strong opinion that buckaroo performed the dastardly deed against yukon out of hate, spite and revenge and that at least one other person knows the complete details. I base my opinion not on hard evidence, because there will never be hard evidence in a situation like this, but on Bucks action history throughout the numerous forums on which he has posted over the years. I will be pleased to change my opinion should a more viable suspect move to the forefront.
I am also of a strong opinion that you, Stone, are a gutless coward who is either afraid to take a stated position on the situation at hand here or that you are totally incompetence in the performance of your duties as a forum owner. I base my opinion on the simple fact that there is absolutely no reason for you to have let this open sore fester for four weeks, and stand by while a bunch of maggot flies lay eggs in it no reason whatsoever!
Stone, yukon said the best he remembers is that the exchange where I guessed his password on the first try was in a PM on LF. Yukon and I shared information by both email and by PM.
Folder: Inbox Date: April 15 7:02:15 PM From: yukon To: A K A Stone Subject: When you signed on as Vermin you never pmd me saying your were Yukon.
To be perfectly honest Stone, I had forgotten all about PM. I wasn't a regular user as you could verify. Besides, when my emails to you weren't responded to until April 2nd, I admit that I was suspicious of you.
Have you noticed how so many of those posters who attacked me have suddenly disappeared from your forum? Does that raise your suspicions about their motives and intent?
[Gatlin]: Stone, I dont trust you not to read the PMs on file at LF I believe that you do. I dont think you are an honorable person and I believe you to be devious.
Stoner, you suspended me for several days for implying the same - that you can and sometimes do read LF PMs.
I am also of a strong opinion that you, Stone, are a gutless coward who is either afraid to take a stated position on the situation at hand here or that you are totally incompetence in the performance of your duties as a forum owner. I base my opinion on the simple fact that there is absolutely no reason for you to have let this open sore fester for four weeks, and stand by while a bunch of maggot flies lay eggs in it no reason whatsoever! - Gatlin, post #491
I hold a very strong opinion that buckaroo performed the dastardly deed against yukon out of hate, spite and revenge and that at least one other person knows the complete details. I base my opinion not on hard evidence, because there will never be hard evidence in a situation like this, but on Bucks action history throughout the numerous forums on which he has posted over the years. I will be pleased to change my opinion should a more viable suspect move to the forefront.
You tell that gutless coward, "yukon" to step forward; he created this whole situation on his own watch.
Monday is coming! Lets see the data about myself or anyone else, pal.
Yeah you started a rumor and now he is parroting it. Thanks a lot.
Yeah? Ditto. Look at what YOU did:
To: buckeroo
"Buckeroo, mouse that talks, john hancock, clyven (the mouse), so cal, etc. You go around the net so excited about this. Saying it is the best laugh you ever had. The funniest thing on the internet. Stuff like that. I'm not convinced you are innocent. But i'm not convinced you are guilty either."
A K A Stone
harrowup posted on 2011-04-23 10:26:05 ET
I lifted the above post off of harrowup's AMNESTY thread. They are accusing socalV8 as being myself because of YOU.
way to inadvertently reveal that the big monday exposé about buckeroo is a giant bluff & 1 huge irrelevant epic fail
Bill -
If you look up the thread, they posted an animated gif from tinyurl and call that a "tracker" .... ROTFL. We are, indeed, seeing little babies (Gatlin, harrow, yukon) playing in a sandbox.
All of this needless finger pointing is BECAUSE of "yukon" horsing around with own LP thread; NO ONE interfered with him other than laffing at the poor ol' wretched man.
He made a mistake. He shall have to live with it. No one can defend him. No matter where he goes, he will be confronted with his own shenanigans by EVERYONE. His best bet is to find a new monicker altogether and start all over again; this time without his past ridiculous one-liners.
Fred, you should have waited at least a half hour before responding. Dolt!
Well Wood_Chopper, you thought of that. Then you realized that waiting would be all the non-proof our friend Gatlin needed to not prove just how devious you are.
IMO the timing of events is very important. Most likely any changes of passwords/IP's that occurred AFTER yukon's "New favorite website" gay link on LP, are part of a cover-up operation.
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
Yeah you started a rumor and now he is parroting it. Thanks a lot. Yeah? Ditto. Look at what YOU did:
To: buckeroo
"Buckeroo, mouse that talks, john hancock, clyven (the mouse), so cal, etc. You go around the net so excited about this. Saying it is the best laugh you ever had. The funniest thing on the internet. Stuff like that. I'm not convinced you are innocent. But i'm not convinced you are guilty either."
A K A Stone
harrowup posted on 2011-04-23 10:26:05 ET I lifted the above post off of harrowup's AMNESTY thread. They are accusing socalV8 as being myself because of YOU.
Well, no Bobby; Stone was late to that party. He just confirmed what your pals at WTP had written to me.
When foul mouthed multi-ID posters cry when they are kicked in the ass and call their attacker 'bullies', it is a clear sign the foul mouthed liar is pissed like any spoiled brat, and it is to laugh at.
If you look up the thread, they posted an animated gif from tinyurl and call that a "tracker" .... ROTFL. We are, indeed, seeing little babies (Gatlin, harrow, yukon) playing in a sandbox.
#325. To: buckeroo (#303)
BTW, the clock is ticking on your dime through this weekend. Monday morning is not far away. Not costing me a cent, Bobby. But it is going to ruin your week-end; not mine. That is if you continue your huffing and puffing; in that regard please explain to your redneck friendless woodchuck just how that 291 thingy works will ya? He seems stuck in basic or something from that chinese thing, what do they call it, the hibiscus?
I mean, you're such a captain of your own domains and stuff; are you sure you don't need some help finding this little bugs poop? Will only be there just a nano second, but if you capture it at just the right spot and flash a little funny color over it you'll see it...a lot a lot a lot of characters but clear enough for me.
You mentioned cover my ass? That was dismissed a half hour after it surfaced.
Now, don't bother me anymore tonight. The grandkids are here and well, you know, Bobby, family is everything.
When foul mouthed multi-ID posters cry when they are kicked in the ass and call their attacker 'bullies', it is a clear sign the foul mouthed liar is pissed like any spoiled brat, and it is to laugh at.
Bobby, you are getting very tiresome. I have highlighted for you what you need to look for and since I knew you and none of your other so called friends could find it either I offered to show you the line code. But you refused because you're just too smart to need any help. Now, when ever you see the little fly (posted by me only) there will appear what would appear to be a coding error but if you don't lock it immediately you won't find it in the line code. It's light years ahead of your puny little hexstream tracker you and Clyven used...by the way, have you fessed up to the real Clyven yet that you hijacked his webpage? Not enough time you say? That's okay, I'll take care of that for you.
When foul mouthed multi-ID posters cry when they are kicked in the ass and call their attacker 'bullies', it is a clear sign the foul mouthed liar is pissed like any spoiled brat, and it is to laugh at.
who do you think you're fooling with an animated GIF uploaded to the free uploading service of tinypic.com?
We've been over this before Billy; don't you read before you huff & puff?
need some help finding this little bugs poop? Will only be there just a nano second, but if you capture it at just the right spot and flash a little funny color over it you'll see it
Now, go away.
When foul mouthed multi-ID posters cry when they are kicked in the ass and call their attacker 'bullies', it is a clear sign the foul mouthed liar is pissed like any spoiled brat, and it is to laugh at.
When foul mouthed multi-ID posters cry when they are kicked in the ass and call their attacker 'bullies', it is a clear sign the foul mouthed liar is pissed like any spoiled brat, and it is to laugh at.
"...the big monday exposé about buckeroo is a giant bluff..."
I understand you are an attorney, Bill; as such do you place a great deal of emphasis on reading every word and phrase at least twice in a contract before any signature is attached? You know the old measure twice cut once? Check toe tag before burial?
Well, if you did you would have noticed these rather significant clauses in the announcement: I have highlighted the pertinent phrases.
For a complete list of names, addresses and IPa you will be directed in the coming days to a secure site where you may ask for yukon's forgiveness. We make no promises.
Not quite the nuclear option I suggested, but hey, Gatlin and yukon and others didn't want you to have your arrest records published as well. You gotta stay away from drugs, fellas. Haunts you forever. And remember, no more DWI's. Messes your insurance all to hell.
Thank you and good night. We will post a link to the secure site Easter Monday on a separate thread.
Now, A K A Stone, Goldi-lox, Pinquinite, and others will have an open invitation and anyone else can ask for yukon's forgiveness and a door will open.
Gatlin and yukon flatly refused to join me in the nuclear option and both of them being naturally more ethical than I would have it no other way.
I still might just ignore their input if these boobies don't give it a rest this week-end.
Of course one thing that doesn't surprise me is that all of these sociopaths either don't read or comprehend what anyone else has to say. They are only interested in what they have to say.
And, of course, I always pay attention to what others are saying which is why war and liberator were identified in two days for the little game they played confirmed only by their careless use of PMs.
So, if anyone wants to ask what those phrases mean, I would ask you to answer them; I have no more patience with hoi polloi
I am very surprised that you would assume Gatlin would ever stoop to bucky's level of disclosure in an open forum. I would; he won't.
When foul mouthed multi-ID posters cry when they are kicked in the ass and call their attacker 'bullies', it is a clear sign the foul mouthed liar is pissed like any spoiled brat, and it is to laugh at.
Gatlin and yukon flatly refused to join me in the nuclear option and both of them being naturally more ethical than I would have it no other way.
Bwhahahahahahah! You sound like a Wild Wild West villain. If you're trying to convince anyone Gatlin and yu-kloughn have ethics, you're in the wrong web site, harelip.
hey, assclown, i'll give you $100.00 if you say I'd did it and I'll even say you exposed me.
There's nothing I'd love better then to go down in history for the internet prank of the year. Punking that obnoxious little prick would make me a hero to many.
even though he is BSing so hard sh#@ is falling out of his nose, words matter. death threats are illegal even if there is no substance behind them. he's threatening a serious cyber crime against anyone who is a meanie to him or his internet friends on an online message board. just sad
Words clearly don't mean anything to you if you claim I'm making 'death threats'; Gatlin must have misjudged you. He said you were smart.
That said, go for it, drama queen.
When foul mouthed multi-ID posters cry when they are kicked in the ass and call their attacker 'bullies', it is a clear sign the foul mouthed liar is pissed like any spoiled brat, and it is to laugh at.
Words clearly don't mean anything to you if you claim I'm making 'death threats'
lol. you clearly need to return to grade school. i never said you made death threats. i said death threats are illegal even if they're just words, and your threats of cyber crime are likely illegal even when they turn out to be mere words.
drama queen.
this coming from the person who practically needs a victorian-era fainting couch over (i assume) some stupid password-guess internet prank.
Go for it. Harelip and his/her cronies should be flushed
Apparently that is the only way anyone is ever going to give a shit about a stolen identity around here; by all means let's get to the bottom from the top and while they will get our complete cooperation I doubt your accomplices will want to be that forthcoming...thanks.
When foul mouthed multi-ID posters cry when they are kicked in the ass and call their attacker 'bullies', it is a clear sign the foul mouthed liar is pissed like any spoiled brat, and it is to laugh at.
Obviously, logic was not your favorite course, let alone drama.
When foul mouthed multi-ID posters cry when they are kicked in the ass and call their attacker 'bullies', it is a clear sign the foul mouthed liar is pissed like any spoiled brat, and it is to laugh at.
Say there rudy, which do you think the feds will find most troublesome, threatening a serious cyber crime orcommitting a serious cyber crime?
When foul mouthed multi-ID posters cry when they are kicked in the ass and call their attacker 'bullies', it is a clear sign the foul mouthed liar is pissed like any spoiled brat, and it is to laugh at.
When foul mouthed multi-ID posters cry when they are kicked in the ass and call their attacker 'bullies', it is a clear sign the foul mouthed liar is pissed like any spoiled brat, and it is to laugh at.