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Title: Brewer vetoes presidential 'birther' bill
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URL Source: http://www.azcentral.com/news/elect ... -birther-bill-brewer-veto.html
Published: Apr 18, 2011
Author: Associated Press
Post Date: 2011-04-18 22:59:33 by Skip Intro
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Views: 47729
Comments: 104

Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer on Monday vetoed a bill to require President Barack Obama and other presidential candidates to prove their U.S. citizenship before their names can appear on the state's ballot.

The bill vetoed by Brewer on Monday would have made Arizona the first state to pass such a requirement. The Arizona bill included proof-of-qualification for all candidates appearing on Arizona ballots, with those varying by the office sought.

Hawaii officials have certified Obama was born in that state, but so-called "birthers" have demanded more proof.

Brewer said in her veto letter that she was troubled that the bill empowered Arizona's secretary of state to judge the qualifications of all candidates when they file to run for office.

"I do not support designating one person as the gatekeeper to the ballot for a candidate, which could lead to arbitrary or politically motivated decisions," said Brewer, who was secretary of state until she became governor in 2009.

"In addition, I never imagined being presented with a bill that could require candidates for president of the greatest and most powerful nation on Earth to submit their early baptismal circumcision certificates' among other records to the Arizona secretary of state," she said. "This is a bridge too far."

The certificates are among the documents a candidate could submit in place of a birth certificate.

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#3. To: Skip Intro (#0)

Heads must be exploding over at the cuckoo's nest.

Bartcoprules  posted on  2011-04-19   8:30:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Bartcoprules (#3)

Can you imagine if all 50 states required that the same long form BC HAD to be on file?

war  posted on  2011-04-19   8:44:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: war (#4)

That the Constitution was being enforced by more than lip service?

Rudgear  posted on  2011-04-19   8:46:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Rudgear (#5)

That the Constitution was being enforced by more than lip service?

Cite the clause to which you are referring.

Thanks...

war  posted on  2011-04-19   8:53:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: war (#6)

Article II Section I, U.S. Constitution:

No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

You can find it yourself. Last time I'll do your homework.

Rudgear  posted on  2011-04-19   9:00:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Rudgear (#7)

Article II Section I, U.S. Constitution:

No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

Where's the part about a birth certificate?

Rek  posted on  2011-04-19   12:24:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Rek (#28)

Where's the part about a birth certificate?

That would be the proof, it would certify it.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-04-19   12:25:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: A K A Stone (#30) (Edited)

That would be the proof, it would certify it.

The founders wanted everyone to carry legal papers, documenting their right to exist, around? I thought that was the tyranny they came to America to escape.

Rek  posted on  2011-04-19   12:29:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Rek (#31)

No need to carry your birth certificate around. But you can keep it at home and if you run for president you can bring a copy. Or if you happen to have lost it. The original would be at the hospital you were born at or someplace else.

Do you not agree that a person has to be a natural born citizen to be President lawfully?

If you think that you should have to be natural born citizen. How would you enforce that requirement?

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-04-19   12:59:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: A K A Stone (#37)

Do you not agree that a person has to be a natural born citizen to be President lawfully?

Since the definition of natural born seems to be lacking codification or even common agreement do you believe those born in territories are natural born citizens?

Rek  posted on  2011-04-19   13:07:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Rek (#41)

Since the definition of natural born seems to be lacking codification or even common agreement do you believe those born in territories are natural born citizens?

If their parents are citizens. Then yes of course.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-04-19   13:11:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: A K A Stone (#44) (Edited)

If their parents are citizens.

What does that have to do with a law concerned simply with WHERE a child is born rather than to WHOM he is born?

You are either a natural born citizen or a naturalized citizen. There is no third category.

war  posted on  2011-04-19   13:14:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: war (#46)

What does that have to do with a law concerned simply with WHERE a child is born rather than to WHOM he is born?

You are either a natural born citizen or a naturalized citizen. There is no third catagory.

If your parents are a citizen of the United States. And say the father is in the military stationed in Germany. The child is born in Germany. He is still a natural born citizen because his parents are citizens.

By the way you spelled "category" incorrectly.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-04-19   13:18:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: A K A Stone, war (#50) (Edited)

If your parents are a citizen of the United States. And say the father is in the military stationed in Germany. The child is born in Germany. He is still a natural born citizen because his parents are citizens.

Don't forget the truly ironic part of this. The Dims wanted John McLunatic to prove HE was qualified to run for office because he was born in Panama. He had no trouble at all providing his birth certificate,and shutting them up.

Seems like almost everybody has forgotten about this.

Seems like they lost all interest in this subject when people started to question the citizenship status of Barry Soetoro,though.

sneakypete  posted on  2011-04-19   16:55:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: sneakypete (#62)

Don't forget the truly ironic part of this. The Dims wanted John McLunatic to prove HE was qualified to run for office because he was born in Panama.

As usual, you're dwelling no where in the realm of reality. The citizenship question was raised on the internet which prompted three democrat Senators to sponsor the Sense of the Senate resolution...those Senators were Pat Leahey, Hillary Clinton and the third....Barack Obama...

war  posted on  2011-04-19   20:32:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: war (#68)

The citizenship question was raised on the internet which prompted three democrat Senators to sponsor the Sense of the Senate resolution...

Yes,which oddly enough drew attention to McLunatic being foreign-born.

Imagine that!

sneakypete  posted on  2011-04-19   20:58:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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