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Title: Ryan: Debt crisis lies within spending, not taxes
Source: You Tube
URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsU6oeOChuM
Published: Apr 18, 2011
Author: CBS News Online
Post Date: 2011-04-18 19:07:23 by CZ82
Keywords: None
Views: 77929
Comments: 113

Schieffer interviews Paul Ryan, tries to back him into a corner and fails.... I can't embed the video (it's locked) so you will have to go to YouTube to view it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsU6oeOChuM

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#74. To: Liberator (#71)

A VAT Tax?

No, a consumption tax... You do away with the current tax system and go to a consumption tax.... A VAT tax would only be on top of what we presently have and would be in essence a tax increase.....

"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning

CZ82  posted on  2011-04-20   18:59:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: CZ82 (#0)
(Edited)

EraSpendingTaxes
Post-WWII20%18%
Clinton19%19%
Obama25%~18%

Spending is the problem.

This is a called a FACT. It's indisputable.


"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899

jwpegler  posted on  2011-04-20   19:00:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: Liberator (#71)

A VAT Tax?

A VAT is not a tax on sales. It's a tax on production. Some countries do refund the VAT when products are exported, which makes it more like a sales tax. However a real sales tax would tax imports in the same way that domestically produced products are taxed -- when they are purchased. The VAT doesn't do this.


"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899

jwpegler  posted on  2011-04-20   19:04:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: jwpegler (#75)

Spending is the problem.

This is a called a FACT. It's indisputable.

I know that, but a lot of people seem to be hung up on tax increases so figured I would concentrate on that first...... That will be next......

"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning

CZ82  posted on  2011-04-20   19:06:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: jwpegler (#75)

So where have you been hiding lately???

"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning

CZ82  posted on  2011-04-20   19:07:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: CZ82 (#78)

So where have you been hiding lately???

I've been in Chicago for the last three weeks on a big project. I'm flying back to Seattle in the morning. Right now I'm winding down at a bar, drinking a Pale Ale -- my first beer in 3 weeks. So I figured I might as well give the leftist loons a hard time as well. ;););)


"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899

jwpegler  posted on  2011-04-20   19:10:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: jwpegler (#79)

I've been in Chicago for the last three weeks on a big project

I pity you, been there before, that place is an "ARMPIT"......

"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning

CZ82  posted on  2011-04-20   19:15:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: Liberator (#65)

Because that won't do it.

That's why.

America...My Kind Of Place...

war  posted on  2011-04-20   20:01:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: Liberator (#67)

I have no issue with it.

America...My Kind Of Place...

war  posted on  2011-04-20   20:02:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: CZ82 (#80)

I come here about 4 or 5 times a year.

Crazy weather -- two Sunday's ago it was 85. On Monday when I woke up there was a little snow on the ground.

Two weird things:

A.) The waitresses call you "honey"

B.) There are a lot of men with gold chains around their necks. Not gay guys - - but big Italian looking dudes who apparently think it's still the 1970s.


"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899

jwpegler  posted on  2011-04-20   20:02:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: jwpegler (#83)

A.) The waitresses call you "honey"

That drives me crazy, I want to say I'm not your honey so bad, but just bite my tongue instead.....

"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning

CZ82  posted on  2011-04-20   20:19:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: jwpegler (#83)

Huge fan of Chicago...

America...My Kind Of Place...

war  posted on  2011-04-20   20:42:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: war (#85)

Why?


"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899

jwpegler  posted on  2011-04-20   21:04:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: jwpegler (#86)

Have always had a great time there...

America...My Kind Of Place...

war  posted on  2011-04-20   21:09:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: war (#87)

How?


"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899

jwpegler  posted on  2011-04-20   22:19:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: Liberator (#72)

But what do you call 20 million idle parasites, fat slobs, and idle hands paid to sit on their arses and watch tee-bee sound like?

Consumers.

The Republican budget goes after children and the poor. Courage would be going after defense and the rich. Bill Maher

lucysmom  posted on  2011-04-21   1:24:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: jwpegler (#88)

How?

By picking up cute little waitresses who call me "honey"...

America...My Kind Of Place...

war  posted on  2011-04-21   8:46:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: Liberator (#64)

While Bush's governance was admittedly quite insane if you ask me, the degree of insane of both 0bama and his supporters who ignore the red elephant on the poop-deck is off-the-charts.

Full agreement. I was ticked off with GOP House and Bush administration spending in the summer of 2006 to the point I simply didn't vote for any Republican except for Governor here in Ohio (Blackwell). At the time, I think the annual deficit was somewhere around 550 - 660 billion.

Today...Owe-bama, with help from Pelosi Galore and dingy Harry Reid tripled that annual defict.

And the Left wonders why I'm really pissed off NOW?

Sheesh.

I hear you knockin...go back where you been....

Badeye  posted on  2011-04-21   9:20:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: Badeye, go65 (#91)

Full agreement. I was ticked off with GOP House and Bush administration spending in the summer of 2006 to the point I simply didn't vote for any Republican except for Governor here in Ohio (Blackwell). At the time, I think the annual deficit was somewhere around 550 - 660 billion.

Survey says....BULLSHIT...

America...My Kind Of Place...

war  posted on  2011-04-21   10:38:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: Badeye (#91)

Today...Owe-bama, with help from Pelosi Galore and dingy Harry Reid tripled that annual defict.

Oh, I think its a little more complex than that.

The Republican budget goes after children and the poor. Courage would be going after defense and the rich. Bill Maher

lucysmom  posted on  2011-04-21   10:44:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: jwpegler (#75)

Spending is the problem.

This is a called a FACT. It's indisputable.

Owe-bama thinks you are a radical for stating this apparently....(chuckle)

I hear you knockin...go back where you been....

Badeye  posted on  2011-04-21   10:59:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: lucysmom (#93)

Today...Owe-bama, with help from Pelosi Galore and dingy Harry Reid tripled that annual defict.

Oh, I think its a little more complex than that

Gee, what a shock, not spending more money than you have on hand confuses a uber Liberal....

Sun rises in the East, dog bites man, film at eleven....

I hear you knockin...go back where you been....

Badeye  posted on  2011-04-21   11:01:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: jwpegler (#75)

You're missing some Presidents in there, dude...

America...My Kind Of Place...

war  posted on  2011-04-21   11:02:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: Badeye (#95)

Gee, what a shock, not spending more money than you have on hand confuses a uber Liberal....

Every POTUS for whom you ever voted for did so, Boofer.

There's nothing confusing about that.

America...My Kind Of Place...

war  posted on  2011-04-21   11:11:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: Badeye (#95)

Gee, what a shock, not spending more money than you have on hand confuses a uber Liberal....

What was stupid was not paying down the debt when we had more money when we were spending.

The Republican budget goes after children and the poor. Courage would be going after defense and the rich. Bill Maher

lucysmom  posted on  2011-04-21   11:14:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: lucysmom (#98)

Boofer never believed that we had more money than we spent. Boofer makes things up...on any given day he either has vast property upon which he combat pistols or his house sits on a cliff.

America...My Kind Of Place...

war  posted on  2011-04-21   11:17:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: lucysmom (#98)

What was stupid was not paying down the debt when we had more money when we were spending.

Supply siders view debt as currency.

"http://first-draft-blog.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c5ced53ef0148c7a28c4b970c-320wi"

Rek  posted on  2011-04-21   11:24:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: lucysmom (#98)

What was stupid was not paying down the debt when we had more money when we were spending.

I have no argument with this at all. Its why I voted against the GOP in 2006, except for Ohio's Governor. I thought Hassert, DeLay and Bush lost their freakin minds then.

Today, the annual Federal Deficit I was so pissed off about in 2006 is TRIPLE what it was that year.

Any surprise I'm even angrier TODAY, Lucysmom?

I hear you knockin...go back where you been....

Badeye  posted on  2011-04-21   11:25:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: Rek (#100)

What was stupid was not paying down the debt when we had more money when we were spending.

Supply siders view debt as currency.

To a point. Just like most of us have credit cards. We exceeded that 'point' six years ago in my view.

I hear you knockin...go back where you been....

Badeye  posted on  2011-04-21   11:26:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: Badeye (#101)

I have no argument with this at all. Its why I voted against the GOP in 2006...

You got angry six years too late.

The Republican budget goes after children and the poor. Courage would be going after defense and the rich. Bill Maher

lucysmom  posted on  2011-04-21   11:30:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: lucysmom (#103)

I have no argument with this at all. Its why I voted against the GOP in 2006... You got angry six years too late.

You mean when Clinton and Gingrich were pretending they produced a 'surplus'?

I was pissed about that lie back then.

The last POTUS to see a real surplus was JFK in 1962.

I hear you knockin...go back where you been....

Badeye  posted on  2011-04-21   11:32:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: war, Badeye (#99)

Boofer never believed that we had more money than we spent.

He was probably confusing budget with total debt.

The Republican budget goes after children and the poor. Courage would be going after defense and the rich. Bill Maher

lucysmom  posted on  2011-04-21   11:41:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: lucysmom (#105)

My money says that he's just confused...

America...My Kind Of Place...

war  posted on  2011-04-21   11:41:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: war, Bdaeye (#106)

My money says that he's just confused...

Thus the laughing, giggling, chortling, chuckling, etc., its all a cover for confusion.

The Republican budget goes after children and the poor. Courage would be going after defense and the rich. Bill Maher

lucysmom  posted on  2011-04-21   12:00:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: lucysmom (#105)

He was probably confusing budget with total debt.

Goofy, if you want to buy into the dwarfs fixation, knock yourself out.

The goofy punk makes shit up, posts it, and then convinces himself HE's real...lol

I hear you knockin...go back where you been....

Badeye  posted on  2011-04-21   12:24:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: Badeye (#108)

Goofy, if you want to buy into the dwarfs fixation, knock yourself out.

Who is the dwarf?

The Republican budget goes after children and the poor. Courage would be going after defense and the rich. Bill Maher

lucysmom  posted on  2011-04-21   12:48:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: war (#90)

By picking up cute little waitresses who call me "honey"...

I've seen the waitresses that do this. I'm going to vomit.


"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899

jwpegler  posted on  2011-04-21   19:36:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: jwpegler (#110)

I've seen the waitresses that do this. I'm going to vomit.

Nope.

You saw the waitresses who do "this" to YOU.

America...My Kind Of Place...

war  posted on  2011-04-21   21:23:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: war, Liberator (#82)

I have no issue with it.

Do you have any issues with Obama at all, or is he doing OK in your opinion?

We The People  posted on  2011-04-23   13:46:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: We The People (#112)

Not real happy with how he seems to get bullied into doing stuff. Clinton used to laugh at the GOP when they huffed up their collective chests. Obama needs to do that.

America...My Kind Of Place...

war  posted on  2011-04-23   14:47:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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