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Title: 'Patriotic Millionaires' Ask to Be Taxed More
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National Journal
URL Source: http://www.nationaljournal.com/-pat ... -ask-to-be-taxed-more-20110413
Published: Apr 18, 2011
Author: Ben Terris
Post Date: 2011-04-18 18:35:47 by CZ82
Keywords: None
Views: 9879
Comments: 28
'Patriotic Millionaires' Ask to Be Taxed More By Ben Terris, Wednesday, April 13, 2011 | 10:03 a.m. If President Obama's deficit-reduction speech today includes a call to end the Bush-era tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans, there will surely be pushback; Republicans have already begun a preemptive attack on raising taxes. One group of millionaires, however, is saying that they are more than willing to pay more for the good of their country. The “Patriotic Millionaires” penned a letter to Obama, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, and House Speaker John Boehner, urging them to “increase taxes on incomes over $1,000,000.” The Millionaires—a group that includes producer and director Doug Liman, actress Edie Falco, the founder of Ask.com, and top Google engineers—wrote that the United States has helped them succeed financially, and they are willing to help the country do the same. “Our country has been good to us. It provided a foundation through which we could succeed,” the group wrote. “Now, we want to do our part to keep that foundation strong so that others can succeed as we have.” According to Alison Goldberg of the group Wealth for the Common Good, raising tax rates on millionaires could raise $60 billion to $80 billion a year in revenue. "This small monetary sacrifice is both an ethical and patriotic decision, made in the hopes of allowing the United States of America to continue to be a leader economically, politically, and morally," said Garrett Gruener, founder of Ask.com. But while these millionaires may be willing to pay more taxes, that doesn’t mean everyone in the country necessarily thinks it’s a good idea. “I am not in favor of raising taxes right now, period,” House Majority Leader Eric Cantor, R-Va., said Wednesday on MSNBC. “The question is raising revenues.... And how are you going raise revenues? Are you just going to raise taxes through a magic wand you’re going to produce more money? Or are you going to grow this economy?”
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#1. To: CZ82 (#0)
It isn't small or patriotic. If THEY want to give, there is nothing stopping them. They want to FORCE others to feed Leviathan. How do socialists become so rich?
It is a free country. They can donate any amount of money they want to.
They privatize the profits only. Oh....that's how most corporations do it.
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It's just all a bunch of BS rhetoric, they don't believe it at all... They know raising taxes won't solve the problem, but that doesn't stop them from lying to the masses... They are just trying to shame others into doing something they themselves won't do... Rules for Libtards #14). Do as I say not as I do….
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
Your rules for libtards sounds pretty wise. Can you post the complete list sometime?
I'm still in the process of making it, because everytime I turn around they give me another reason to add to the list.
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
They don't and they won't A quick dismantling of their patently fake grandstand would start the moment the IRS sends them the donation lien.
Death to everybody who does not get outta my way. (decided to retire the beatdowns on old worthless retread posters that are bozoed)
They don't and they won't A quick dismantling of their patently fake grandstand would start the moment the IRS sends them the donation lien. Send this to all Libtards you know, that should make their day..... How do you make a contribution to reduce the debt? There are two ways for you to make a contribution to reduce the debt: •You can make a contribution online either by credit card, checking or savings account at Pay.gov •You can write a check payable to the Bureau of the Public Debt, and in the memo section, notate that it's a Gift to reduce the Debt Held by the Public. Mail your check to: Attn Dept G Bureau of the Public Debt P. O. Box 2188 Parkersburg, WV 26106-2188
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
How will increasing revenues not solve the problem?
America...My Kind Of Place...
What they are proposing by raising taxes will only bring in about another 5% or so...... It won't even make a dent in the debt or deficit.... And if you do that people are going to sit on their money even longer, exacerbating the problem..... that's what I'm doing sitting on mine..... There are some people on this site who are in business for themselves, they can tell you it's not worth investing your money right now in expansion of their business... they will end up losing money for no good reason...... Why do you think some businesses have went to using workers from temporary hiring companies??? So they don't have to pay for health care and certain other benefits... because the government is just making it too damn expensive to do this for their employees and not worthwhile to be in business..... So who does this screw????? the workers of course...... duhhhh... and if you really want to "PHUCK" yourself..... unionize...... the boss will close the door tomorrow and move somewhere else... Goodbye job, hello Welfare!!!! Just what the Democrats want, you on their tit.... If you want more revenues then you need to create more jobs...... it's just as simple as that..... and if you have created more jobs then you don't have to shell out as much in Welfare, food stamps, free cell phones, free housing... etc..etc..etc so the 2 combined will help solve the problem..... I posted a thread on here about a week ago that says even if you tax the rich at 100% it will only bring in about $6-800 billion...... that's only about 1/2 of "THIS YEARS DEFICIT"..... you are going to "HAVE TO CUT SPENDING SOMETIME" or it's all over but for the fat lady singing......
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
If you are referring to the "study" that was done by Cato - or some other think tank - that study was based upon the economic conditions that prevalied at the hight of the recession when income growth across the spectrum was stagnet. An di thought tat number was 3%. But, to be honest, I believe that the Bush43 tax cuts should have just expired and the nation reverted back to the levels of the 1990's. the 2001 cuts were wholly unnecessary. The 2003 cuts economically and fiscally extrinsic and, thus, worse. There is not one bit of evidence that those tax cuts did anything but explode the deficits and the debt. Laffer's theory, is actually fairly rudimentary in its construct. At some point, there is a correct rate of taxation that maximizes revenues. On either side of that point, are tax rates that are too high or too low. Raising revenues HAS to be part of the solution.
America...My Kind Of Place...
The first chart is unemployment for the 2000 decade mostly under Bush, the rise early on is from the DOT COM fiasco and the second is from Fannie/Freddie fiasco. Now this one is debt/deficit comparing Bush to Obama If we wouldn't have had the spending for the 2 wars than I would say the Bush side would have been pretty flat or maybe even a little excess, who's to say... But I do know one thing for sure we spend way too much and Welfare, food stamps, free housing and other things..... some of these people just don't need it.... Not when you see them in Vegas gambling, using those government issued credit cards.... here's "A" link...
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
Sorry I couldn't get the link to post with the charts, so here it is.... California welfare recipients using welfare money for gambling, cruises, living the high life October 12, 2010 · 9 comments Thanks, suckers. You work hard, you pay your taxes, and California welfare recipients are using their welfare cards like credit cards with no credit limits. In the last couple of year, they’ve drawn $69 million in California welfare payments while out of state. Hell, out of state wouldn’t even be so bad if they weren’t pissing your money away in casinos and on cruises and shopping sprees. The day the welfare checks arrive. Or as it's known in California, "Party time, baby!" The Los Angeles Times has the disturbing details: Las Vegas tops the list with $11.8 million spent at casinos or taken from ATMs, but transactions in Hawaii, Miami, Guam and elsewhere also raise questions. Officials say budget cuts hinder investigations. More than $69 million in California welfare money, meant to help the needy pay their rent and clothe their children, has been spent or withdrawn outside the state in recent years, including millions in Las Vegas, hundreds of thousands in Hawaii and thousands on cruise ships sailing from Miami. State-issued aid cards have been used at hotels, shops, restaurants, ATMs and other places in 49 other states, the U.S. Virgin Islands and Guam, according to data obtained by The Times from the California Department of Social Services. Las Vegas drew $11.8 million of the cash benefits, far more than any other destination. The money was accessed from January 2007 through May 2010. Free credit cards. Free money. Free cruises. Free hotel rooms. Free shopping. All paid for by the suckers formerly known as taxpayers. Source: Los Angeles Times
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
What FN/FM "fiasco"? And the "dot.com" bust resulted in less 1MM workers being displaced. Most of the dot.coms that went bust were start ups with a handful of emplyees. There was a bigger layoff of Tech and IP workers because of the end of the Y2K changeover. Budgets/deficits/debts and, most importantly, economies, are the product of momentum. The economy got screwed up in the 2004-06 period the cumulative affects being recession in 2007 and depression in 2008, that you'd be looking at the same chart that you've mis-identifed as including debt under McCain. Lets' face it, we'd be nowhere near this fiscal mess had the GOP Congress not back door financed two wars and a prescription drug program while twice cutting taxes and whilenot excercising any sense of fiscal resposibility.
America...My Kind Of Place...
The fraud was identified...good.
America...My Kind Of Place...
I was just using those as kind of reference points, I know they weren't the only causes for both recessions.... And most people don't even think of or remember Y2K as having an impact, so don't use it as a reference point... I don't......
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
McCain????? "I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
If he was elected silly. Maybe you really are Whitesands.
"http://first-draft-blog.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c5ced53ef0148c7a28c4b970c-320wi"
Oh OK I see what you mean... I'm slow somedays.... I've got my helmet on today.. Who is Whitesands?????? Is he/she from another site or from here before my time????
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
Who is Whitesands?????? Is he/she from another site or from here before my time???? Upon reread of that post, I agree war was somewhat obtuse. Whitesand is the absent owner of most pinglists here.
"http://first-draft-blog.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c5ced53ef0148c7a28c4b970c-320wi"
libertysflame.com/cgi-bin...ds&To=&SNSearch=+Go+&PNU= I think he quit because I wouldn't ban people he wanted banned. Or maybe he thought I should cut down on the insults. I actually wasn't here for quite a while at the end of last year and beginning of this year. So I don't know the whole story. I think he hates me now. I enjoyed his anti catholic threads. He doesn't like the catholic religion.
Do you really beleive that our fiscal picture would be different - to the good side - under President McCain?
America...My Kind Of Place...
Hey...we have membership cards, balloons and even a secret handshake!!!
America...My Kind Of Place...
Upon a further read, I realize that I was... The economy got screwed up in the 2004-06 period with the cumulative affects being recession in 2007 and depression in 2008; do you believe that you'd NOT be looking at the same chart that you've mis-identifed as including debt, under President McCain?
America...My Kind Of Place...
PING to above...
America...My Kind Of Place...
Tough question.... Well I guess it depends on where he would have stood during the uprising in Iran (and Egypt too).... Would he have seen that as an opportunity to get rid of the Mullahs and Ahmadinejad.... probably.... We can always use another ally in the Middle East and that may have been our chance.. That may have been our best chance of calming down that region for good!!!! and now it's gone... Now, I would imagine the citizens of Iran are back to hating the USA again just because Obozo watched and did nothing.... That being said, how far would have McCain went to help the people of Iran other than just "lipservicing" them??? Who knows???? Would he have sent weapons, I doubt it.... Would he have sent aircraft, quite possibly..... Ground troops, I kinda doubt that because of already being in Iraq and Afghanistan...... but if it went to a full blown civil war, maybe..... Now as far as social services go I think he would have been about the same as Bush, but I don't think he would have started any new entitlement programs.. And he sure as hell wouldn't have bailed out all of the unions..... So I think his numbers would have been much better than Obamas, and with both wars winding down he may have been better than Bush.... We would still be having financial problems but they wouldn't be so critical...... But this is all just speculation, so who the hell knows.....
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
We'd be in the same place. We're a victim of economics and 6 years of absolutely horrendous fiscal management. Couple that to the fact that 5 years later no one STILL wants to pay for it.
America...My Kind Of Place...
Well they are going to have to figure out how to do it, and then do what it takes to accomplish it, if not then we're doomed...
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
"This small monetary sacrifice is both an ethical and patriotic decision . . ."
#2. To: CZ82 (#0)
#3. To: Abcdefg (#1)
It isn't small or patriotic. If THEY want to give, there is nothing stopping them. They want to FORCE others to feed Leviathan. How do socialists become so rich?
#4. To: All (#0)
One group of millionaires, however, is saying that they are more than willing to pay more for the good of their country.
#5. To: CZ82 (#4)
Rules for Libtards #14). Do as I say not as I do….
#6. To: A K A Stone (#5)
Rules for Libtards #14). Do as I say not as I do…. Your rules for libtards sounds pretty wise. Can you post the complete list sometime?
#7. To: diva betsy ross (#2)
It is a free country. They can donate any amount of money they want to.
#8. To: e_type_jag (#7)
It is a free country. They can donate any amount of money they want to.
#9. To: CZ82 (#4)
They know raising taxes won't solve the problem
#10. To: war (#9)
How will increasing revenues not solve the problem?
#11. To: CZ82 (#10)
What they are proposing by raising taxes will only bring in about another 5% or so......
#12. To: war (#11)
But, to be honest, I believe that the Bush43 tax cuts should have just expired and the nation reverted back to the levels of the 1990's. the 2001 cuts were wholly unnecessary. The 2003 cuts economically and fiscally extrinsic and, thus, worse. There is not one bit of evidence that those tax cuts did anything but explode the deficits and the debt.
#13. To: war (#11)
#14. To: CZ82 (#12)
The first chart is unemployment for the 2000 decade mostly under Bush, the rise early on is from the DOT COM fiasco and the second is from Fannie/Freddie fiasco.
#15. To: CZ82 (#13)
More than $69 million in California welfare money, meant to help the needy pay their rent and clothe their children, has been spent or withdrawn outside the state in recent years, including millions in Las Vegas, hundreds of thousands in Hawaii and thousands on cruise ships sailing from Miami.
#16. To: war (#14)
The first chart is unemployment for the 2000 decade mostly under Bush, the rise early on is from the DOT COM fiasco and the second is from Fannie/Freddie fiasco.
#17. To: war (#14)
that you'd be looking at the same chart that you've mis-identifed as including debt under McCain.
#18. To: CZ82, Whitesands (#17)
McCain?????
#19. To: Rek (#18)
If he was elected silly. Maybe you really are Whitesands.
#20. To: CZ82, war (#19)
Oh OK I see what you mean... I'm slow somedays.... I've got my helmet on today..
#21. To: CZ82, whitesands (#19)
Who is Whitesands??????
#22. To: CZ82 (#17)
#23. To: A K A Stone (#21)
I think he hates me now.
#24. To: Rek (#20)
(Edited)
Upon reread of that post, I agree war was somewhat obtuse.
#25. To: CZ82 (#24)
#26. To: war (#22)
Do you really beleive that our fiscal picture would be different - to the good side - under President McCain?
#27. To: CZ82 (#26)
#28. To: war (#27)
We'd be in the same place. We're a victim of economics and 6 years of absolutely horrendous fiscal management. Couple that to the fact that 5 years later no one STILL wants to pay for it.
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