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Charlie Kirk Shocks Florida State University With The TRUTH Status: Not Logged In; Sign In Opinions/Editorials See other Opinions/Editorials Articles Title: Rand On the Dole Source: Reason URL Source: http://reason.com/blog/2011/01/30/rand-on-the-dole Published: Jan 30, 2011 Author: Tim Cavanaugh Post Date: 2011-04-17 10:53:59 by lucysmom Keywords: Big government supports Ayn Ra, Life mugs Libertarian, Hypocrite, an easy label Views: 34334 Comments: 82 Scott McConnell's Oral History of Ayn Rand includes an interview with a consultant of the Atlas Shrugged author and founder of the Objectivism cult, who details how she helped the artist formerly known as Alisa Zinovievna Rosenbaum get on the public tit. From Mark Frauenfelder at BoingBoing: Noted speed freak, serial-killer fangirl, and Tea Party hero Ayn Rand was also a kleptoparasite, sneakily gobbling up taxpayer funds under an assumed name to pay for her medical treatments after she got lung cancer. An interview with Evva Pryror, a social worker and consultant to Miss Rand's law firm of Ernst, Cane, Gitlin and Winick verified that on Miss Rand's behalf she secured Rand's Social Security and Medicare payments which Ayn received under the name of Ann O'Connor (husband Frank O'Connor). As Pryor said, "Doctors cost a lot more money than books earn and she could be totally wiped out" without the aid of these two government programs. Ayn took the bail out even though Ayn "despised government interference and felt that people should and could live independently... She didn't feel that an individual should take help." Click for Full Text! Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 45. #1. To: Fred Mertz, A K A Stone, hondo68, Fred Mertz, Godwinson, go65, war, no gnu taxes, Skip Intro, ferret mike, jwpegler, brian s, mcgowanjm, The Blue Cat (#0) "Doctors cost a lot more money than books earn and she could be totally wiped out without the aid of these two government programs." Yep. That's why those programs were created. lucysmom  posted on  2011-04-17   10:59:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #2. To: lucysmom (#1) The programs were created because of Rand? Your tagline is silly considering how much blood the democrats have on their hands murdering little pretty innocent babies. A K A Stone  posted on  2011-04-17   11:03:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #5. To: A K A Stone (#2) Your tagline is silly considering how much blood the democrats have on their hands murdering little pretty innocent babies. Of course there are Democrats that don't support the right to choose and Republicans who do - but that messes up the whole black and white approach to politics. Too bad life isn't that simple. lucysmom  posted on  2011-04-17   11:12:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #7. To: lucysmom, A K A Stone (#5) Of course there are Democrats that don't support the right to choose and Republicans who do - but that messes up the whole black and white approach to politics. I'm interested in your gray approach especially in regard to 'choice' since that issue caused my permanent expulsion from FR's taliban cult. harrowup  posted on  2011-04-17   11:25:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #10. To: harrowup (#7) I'm interested in your gray approach especially in regard to 'choice' since that issue caused my permanent expulsion from FR's taliban cult. I don't think I can help you understand why you were expelled from FR. lucysmom  posted on  2011-04-17   11:48:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #17. To: lucysmomk, A K A Stone (#10) I don't think I can help you understand why you were expelled from FR. Don't be a smartass, Ma; I asked you what your gray approach to politics is as opposed to that which you criticized, black & white. You either have an answer or you're just blowing smoke. Stone? Your view is certainly extreme and of course neither reasonable nor probable. Some times pregnancy is truly a mistake. My own idea on abortion is that the first one is free unless the father is known and he pays) and without condemnation. A second abortion is costly and results in automatic sterilization of the mother. The father in the second abortion is required to pay. Anyone fined for an abortion as the father would be above who reoffends is castrated. Anyone executing an abortion provider must adopt all future children born who would have been serviced by said abortion provider. Until the RC Church permits birth control we're stuck. Until the government stops paying for abortions we're stuck. Just my opinion. harrowup  posted on  2011-04-17   14:09:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #19. To: harrowup (#17) Until the RC Church permits birth control we're stuck. I've seen studies in the past that say if people have easier access to birth control methods, thats it causes abortion rates to go up..... I've also seen just the opposite...... Here is an excerpt from a thread I posted 8 days ago: Access to contraception does NOT reduce abortion rates: Anyone who finds that statement shocking has not been paying attention. A study published earlier this year found that a 63 percent increase in the use of contraceptives in Spain over a ten-year period was accompanied by a 108 percent increase in the rate of elective abortions.[8] This counter-intuitive reality has also been documented in peer-reviewed journals in the U.S. and Western Europe. Studies by Peter Arcidiacono in the U.S., K. Edgardh in Sweden, and David Paton and Sourafel Girma as well as M. Wiggins et al. in the U.K., are reviewed in a USCCB fact sheet "Greater Access to Contraception Does Not Reduce Abortions." Now on the other hand: It appears that offering free contraception to young women is an effective way to cut the abortion rate. In 2002, free hormone-based birth control was offered to Norwegian women ages 16 to 19, and abortion rates declined dramatically. When the one-year project was over, young women were offered reduced-rate contraception, and the number of abortions began to climb again. If offering free contraception works in Norway, it seems entirely possible that it could work in other places around the world. There appears to be workable solution to unintended pregnancies and abortions. Cities hand out free needles to drug users, why not contraception? So which one is right??????? Who the hell knows????? CZ82  posted on  2011-04-18   15:44:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #39. To: CZ82 (#19) So which one is right??????? Who the hell knows????? European teens have lower pregnancy and abortion rates because they have access to contraceptives, permission to use it, and frank parental/cultural guidelines. American teens, on the other hand, think of being prepared as a bad idea and a "jinx." According to one young man, "I don't think you should prepare to have sex, 'cause if you carry a condom it's like you are expecting to have sex, so yeah, I don't think you should carry one." The kids say that boys who carry condoms are seen as "promiscuous" and girls who do this are seen as "sluts." One guy sums it up with, "Yeah, no condoms for me." www.slate.com/id/2272631/ Watch the slide show. lucysmom  posted on  2011-04-18   21:15:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #41. To: lucysmom (#39) Europe has lower morals then traditional Americans. A K A Stone  posted on  2011-04-18   21:16:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #45. To: A K A Stone (#41) (Edited) Europe has lower morals then traditional Americans. And yet traditional Americans have abortions at a higher rate. Unwed pregnant teens and 20-somethings who attend or have graduated from private religious schools are more likely to obtain abortions than their peers from public schools, according to research in the June issue of the Journal of Health and Social Behavior. www.livescience.com/5476-...abortion-religiosity.html "But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away: How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious?" lucysmom  posted on  2011-04-18   21:41:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   Replies to Comment # 45. #48. To: lucysmom (#45) And yet traditional Americans have abortions at a higher rate. Go to your source. Post their numbers. Show the math on screen here. Then we can debate it. A K A Stone  posted on  2011-04-18 21:57:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   End Trace Mode for Comment # 45. Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest

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