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Title: Rand On the Dole
Source: Reason
URL Source: http://reason.com/blog/2011/01/30/rand-on-the-dole
Published: Jan 30, 2011
Author: Tim Cavanaugh
Post Date: 2011-04-17 10:53:59 by lucysmom
Keywords: Big government supports Ayn Ra, Life mugs Libertarian, Hypocrite, an easy label
Views: 30293
Comments: 82

Scott McConnell's Oral History of Ayn Rand includes an interview with a consultant of the Atlas Shrugged author and founder of the Objectivism cult, who details how she helped the artist formerly known as Alisa Zinovievna Rosenbaum get on the public tit. From Mark Frauenfelder at BoingBoing:

Noted speed freak, serial-killer fangirl, and Tea Party hero Ayn Rand was also a kleptoparasite, sneakily gobbling up taxpayer funds under an assumed name to pay for her medical treatments after she got lung cancer.

An interview with Evva Pryror, a social worker and consultant to Miss Rand's law firm of Ernst, Cane, Gitlin and Winick verified that on Miss Rand's behalf she secured Rand's Social Security and Medicare payments which Ayn received under the name of Ann O'Connor (husband Frank O'Connor).

As Pryor said, "Doctors cost a lot more money than books earn and she could be totally wiped out" without the aid of these two government programs. Ayn took the bail out even though Ayn "despised government interference and felt that people should and could live independently... She didn't feel that an individual should take help."

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#23. To: harrowup, A K A Stone (#20)

How many 'pretty little babies' born to parents ill- equipped to raise them have you and your associates adopted...?

You mean before you and your associates exterminated them? It's hard to adopt 'pretty little babies' if you murder them before their first breaths of air out of the womb.

MEMO TO HARROWUP and "parents ill- equipped to raise" them:

STOP MURDERING THE UNBORN AS A SUBSTITUTE FOR "BIRTH CONTROL."

#1. To: Goldi-Lox (#0) I used the wrong link. yukon posted on 2011-03-27 1:40:47 ET

Liberator  posted on  2011-04-18   20:38:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: A K A Stone (#21)

Me and my associates have adopted zero babies. The liberals killed them all.

Not funny. My question was serious. All of the money that is spent on anti- abortion activities might better be spent adopting the helpless children born to parents ill-suited to raise a child.

It would still require punishment for repeat offenders.

Once is a mistake. Twice is an affront to God and nature.

harrowup  posted on  2011-04-18   20:39:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: harrowup (#20)

Oh that is perfect logic.

Getting pulled apart- limb, by limb- to a slow suffocating death- is not abusive or painful.

diva betsy ross  posted on  2011-04-18   20:40:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: harrowup (#17)

My own idea on abortion is that the first one is free unless the father is known and he pays) and without condemnation.

Aaah - so everyone on Planet Harrowup gets one murder/abortion "mulligan"?

You are most merciful, highness.

#1. To: Goldi-Lox (#0) I used the wrong link. yukon posted on 2011-03-27 1:40:47 ET

Liberator  posted on  2011-04-18   20:41:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Liberator (#23)

I have always tried to view the situation rationally and without blame. The first abortion is a mistake. The second abortion should be harshly punished.

Can't be any clearer than that since it ain't never going to happen your way.

harrowup  posted on  2011-04-18   20:43:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: lucysmom (#5)

There are Democrats that don't support the right to choose and Republicans who do - but that messes up the whole black and white approach to politics.

Murder knows no Party, although the the Holy Sacrament of the Democrat Party IS Abortion.

#1. To: Goldi-Lox (#0) I used the wrong link. yukon posted on 2011-03-27 1:40:47 ET

Liberator  posted on  2011-04-18   20:44:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: harrowup (#24)

Not funny.

I know. That is why I support the death penalty for these types of murderers.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-04-18   20:48:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: harrowup (#27) (Edited)

I have always tried to view the situation rationally and without blame. The first abortion is a mistake.

But there IS blame. There is no such thing as a mulligan when stealing an other's life. And yes, you are rationalizing.

The second abortion should be harshly punished.

The second murder victim is no more worthy of life than the first.

Can't be any clearer than that since it ain't never going to happen your way.

NOT going to be your way either; The way man's law is, two or twenty abortions/murders are sanctioned by the state.

#1. To: Goldi-Lox (#0) I used the wrong link. yukon posted on 2011-03-27 1:40:47 ET

Liberator  posted on  2011-04-18   20:50:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: lucysmom (#9)

Explain why the Old Testament penalty for murder is death while the penalty for causing a woman to miscarry is a fine.

Are you a disciple of the Old Testament or just trying to stump detractors of abortion with your riddle?

#1. To: Goldi-Lox (#0) I used the wrong link. yukon posted on 2011-03-27 1:40:47 ET

Liberator  posted on  2011-04-18   20:53:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: diva betsy ross, harrowup (#25)

Oh that is perfect logic.

Getting pulled apart- limb, by limb- to a slow suffocating death- is not abusive or painful.

Harrowup gives a dismemberment mulligan for the first almost-birth; The second time a dismemberment/abortion happens he really gets p*ssed off.

#1. To: Goldi-Lox (#0) I used the wrong link. yukon posted on 2011-03-27 1:40:47 ET

Liberator  posted on  2011-04-18   20:56:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: lucysmom (#0)

Noted speed freak, serial-killer fangirl, and Tea Party hero Ayn Rand was also a kleptoparasite, sneakily gobbling up taxpayer funds ...

How convenient that the Left feels it must discredit Ayn Rand who discredits and undresses the Left's Socialism/Fascism - just as the movie is released.

#1. To: Goldi-Lox (#0) I used the wrong link. yukon posted on 2011-03-27 1:40:47 ET

Liberator  posted on  2011-04-18   21:00:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: A K A Stone (#29)

That is why I support the death penalty for these types of murderers.

Oh for pete's sake most states don't execute cop killers or pedophiles who molest and kill children.

Your solution is a non starter. Aim at something less draconian and possible.

harrowup  posted on  2011-04-18   21:01:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Liberator (#32)

Liberalism is a mental disorder. It is true.

diva betsy ross  posted on  2011-04-18   21:06:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: CZ82 (#19) (Edited)

There appears to be workable solution to unintended pregnancies and abortions. Cities hand out free needles to drug users, why not contraception?

That's an interest revelation and logical solution of a civilization, culture, and society that is actually concerned with stability and righteousness. However, IT'S NOT.

Look beyond logic...

The Powers-That-Be have planned the current climate of instability and chaos since the mid-60s. That included legitimizing abortion, creating a dependent plantation class, and destroying the structure of the family. The Powers-That-Be are...Reptilian-Evil.

#1. To: Goldi-Lox (#0) I used the wrong link. yukon posted on 2011-03-27 1:40:47 ET

Liberator  posted on  2011-04-18   21:07:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: diva betsy ross (#35)

Liberalism is a mental disorder. It is true.

A mental disorder that rationalizes the acceptability of murder of the most innocent of human beings.

Most of these very same folks demand their pound of flesh of those who mistreat and abuse animals.

#1. To: Goldi-Lox (#0) I used the wrong link. yukon posted on 2011-03-27 1:40:47 ET

Liberator  posted on  2011-04-18   21:09:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: A K A Stone (#29)

I support the death penalty for these types of murderers.

For repeat-abortionists? Or any abortion?

#1. To: Goldi-Lox (#0) I used the wrong link. yukon posted on 2011-03-27 1:40:47 ET

Liberator  posted on  2011-04-18   21:11:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: CZ82 (#19)

So which one is right??????? Who the hell knows?????

European teens have lower pregnancy and abortion rates because they have access to contraceptives, permission to use it, and frank parental/cultural guidelines.

American teens, on the other hand, think of being prepared as a bad idea and a "jinx." According to one young man, "I don't think you should prepare to have sex, 'cause if you carry a condom it's like you are expecting to have sex, so yeah, I don't think you should carry one." The kids say that boys who carry condoms are seen as "promiscuous" and girls who do this are seen as "sluts." One guy sums it up with, "Yeah, no condoms for me."

www.slate.com/id/2272631/

Watch the slide show.

The Republican budget goes after children and the poor. Courage would be going after defense and the rich. Bill Maher

lucysmom  posted on  2011-04-18   21:15:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Liberator (#38)

For anyone who performs abortions. Anyone who seeks them. Anyone who hires a hitman to kill babies, born or unborn.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-04-18   21:15:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: lucysmom (#39)

Europe has lower morals then traditional Americans.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-04-18   21:16:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: A K A Stone (#41)

Europe has lower morals then traditional Americans.

Yea I guess that's why at 10PM on Italian TV networks it's porno time.....

"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning

CZ82  posted on  2011-04-18   21:22:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: A K A Stone (#40)

For anyone who performs abortions. Anyone who seeks them. Anyone who hires a hitman to kill babies, born or unborn.

It IS murder. However man has created his own "justice" and rationalizes abortion as the "lesser of evils" vs. the inconvenience of raising the child.

That said, the Lord was clear about the repercussions of His justice of those who harm "the little ones."

#1. To: Goldi-Lox (#0) I used the wrong link. yukon posted on 2011-03-27 1:40:47 ET

Liberator  posted on  2011-04-18   21:25:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: diva betsy ross (#35)

Liberalism is a mental disorder. It is true.

Now where have I heard that before?????

Psychiatrist Confirms: Liberalism Is a Mental Disorder

February 17, 2008

Psychiatrist Confirms: Liberalism Is a Mental Disorder As a clinical and forensic psychiatrist, Lyle Rossiter has treated over 1,500 patients and examined over 2,700 civil and criminal cases. Turning his hand to political psychopathology, the author of The Liberal Mind: The Psychological Causes of Political Madness, has diagnosed an alarming percentage of the population as suffering from the grotesque form of mental derangement known by some as moonbattery.

Among Rossiter's observations:

Based on strikingly irrational beliefs and emotions, modern liberals relentlessly undermine the most important principles on which our freedoms were founded. Like spoiled, angry children, they rebel against the normal responsibilities of adulthood and demand that a parental government meet their needs from cradle to grave.

A social scientist who understands human nature will not dismiss the vital roles of free choice, voluntary cooperation and moral integrity — as liberals do. A political leader who understands human nature will not ignore individual differences in talent, drive, personal appeal and work ethic, and then try to impose economic and social equality on the population — as liberals do. And a legislator who understands human nature will not create an environment of rules which over-regulates and over-taxes the nation's citizens, corrupts their character and reduces them to wards of the state — as liberals do.

The roots of liberalism — and its associated madness — can be clearly identified by understanding how children develop from infancy to adulthood and how distorted development produces the irrational beliefs of the liberal mind. When the modern liberal mind whines about imaginary victims, rages against imaginary villains and seeks above all else to run the lives of persons competent to run their own lives, the neurosis of the liberal mind becomes painfully obvious.

Basically liberalism is a willful failure to mature beyond adolescence that can have catastrophic consequences for society. With luck, the official diagnosis of this disease by a mental health professional will facilitate the search for a cure.

"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning

CZ82  posted on  2011-04-18   21:29:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: A K A Stone (#41) (Edited)

Europe has lower morals then traditional Americans.

And yet traditional Americans have abortions at a higher rate.

Unwed pregnant teens and 20-somethings who attend or have graduated from private religious schools are more likely to obtain abortions than their peers from public schools, according to research in the June issue of the Journal of Health and Social Behavior.

www.livescience.com/5476-...abortion-religiosity.html

"But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away: How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious?"

The Republican budget goes after children and the poor. Courage would be going after defense and the rich. Bill Maher

lucysmom  posted on  2011-04-18   21:41:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: CZ82 (#44)

Me thinks the psychiatrist doth project...

The Republican budget goes after children and the poor. Courage would be going after defense and the rich. Bill Maher

lucysmom  posted on  2011-04-18   21:51:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Liberator (#33)

How convenient that the Left feels it must discredit Ayn Rand...

The point is that Ayn Rand discredits her philosophy, herself.

The Republican budget goes after children and the poor. Courage would be going after defense and the rich. Bill Maher

lucysmom  posted on  2011-04-18   21:55:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: lucysmom (#45)

And yet traditional Americans have abortions at a higher rate.

Go to your source. Post their numbers. Show the math on screen here. Then we can debate it.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-04-18   21:57:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Liberator (#28)

although the Holy Sacrament of the Democrat Party IS Abortion.

So in your opinion why is that????? Just curious....

"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning

CZ82  posted on  2011-04-18   21:59:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: lucysmom (#46)

Me thinks the psychiatrist doth project...

Maybe....

"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning

CZ82  posted on  2011-04-18   22:00:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: CZ82, lucysmom (#50)

"Me thinks the psychiatrist doth project..."

Maybe....

There is no reasoning with absolutists whether pro or con.

harrowup  posted on  2011-04-18   22:15:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: CZ82 (#49)

So in your opinion why is that????? Just curious....

Can any democrat capture the democratic nomination without being for infanticide.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-04-18   22:18:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: A K A Stone (#52)

Can any democrat capture the democratic nomination without being for infanticide

Highly doubtful......

"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning

CZ82  posted on  2011-04-18   22:19:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: CZ82 (#53)

It unifies them more than any other issue. An example was their willingness to shit down the government in order to keep funding a company named Planned Parenthood which has subsidized the murder of millions of people.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-04-18   22:24:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: A K A Stone, CZ82 (#54)

An example was their willingness to shut down the government in order to keep funding a company named Planned Parenthood

You are correct that this is the third rail of the Democrat Party.

The reason is simple and one that must never be discussed and that is the racial element to abortion. The Black Caucus would abandon the party in a second if any reasonable approach to abortion control would ever be suggested.

This has been true since the South abandoned the Democrats and tried to reason with the caucus, and then had to become Republican instead.

The SCOTUS never never never should have suggested it was legal and there needs to be a good case to overturn it and damn the Black Caucus and the money changers at Planned Parenthood and its sister lesbian society chums at NOW.

It's all about money now. Nothing to do with morals or integrity on the left.

And, sadly, the right has fallen into the trap of unrealistic expectations whatever the good intentions.

harrowup  posted on  2011-04-18   22:49:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: harrowup (#55)

You are correct that this is the third rail of the Democrat Party.

And yet Harry Reid is anti-choice and would like to see Roe vs Wade overturned - go figure.

The Republican budget goes after children and the poor. Courage would be going after defense and the rich. Bill Maher

lucysmom  posted on  2011-04-18   22:53:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: lucysmom (#56)

Harry Reid may be anti choice but he is pro abortion. He voted to fund it with Obamas "healthcare" bill.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-04-18   22:56:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: lucysmom, A K A Stone (#56)

Harry Reid is incapable of speaking the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth on anything, anytime, anyplace. Sad thing is Durbin is dumber and a bigger crook.

harrowup  posted on  2011-04-18   23:00:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: A K A Stone (#57)

Harry Reid may be anti choice but he is pro abortion. He voted to fund it with Obamas "healthcare" bill.

A vote for the bill is not a vote for abortion. To say that it is, is irrational, illogical hyperbole.

The Republican budget goes after children and the poor. Courage would be going after defense and the rich. Bill Maher

lucysmom  posted on  2011-04-18   23:16:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: lucysmom (#59)

A vote for the bill is not a vote for abortion. To say that it is, is irrational, illogical hyperbole.

CZ here is another one for your list on "libtards".

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-04-18   23:18:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: cz82 (#59)

See above

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-04-18   23:18:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: harrowup (#58)

Harry Reid is incapable of speaking the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth on anything, anytime, anyplace.

A flaw that isn't unique to him apparently.

The Republican budget goes after children and the poor. Courage would be going after defense and the rich. Bill Maher

lucysmom  posted on  2011-04-18   23:19:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: lucysmom (#62)

A flaw that isn't unique to him apparently.

Only apparently. Even when you're right I have to correct you. It isn't strong enough a word.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-04-18   23:21:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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