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Title: Rand On the Dole
Source: Reason
URL Source: http://reason.com/blog/2011/01/30/rand-on-the-dole
Published: Jan 30, 2011
Author: Tim Cavanaugh
Post Date: 2011-04-17 10:53:59 by lucysmom
Keywords: Big government supports Ayn Ra, Life mugs Libertarian, Hypocrite, an easy label
Views: 32808
Comments: 82

Scott McConnell's Oral History of Ayn Rand includes an interview with a consultant of the Atlas Shrugged author and founder of the Objectivism cult, who details how she helped the artist formerly known as Alisa Zinovievna Rosenbaum get on the public tit. From Mark Frauenfelder at BoingBoing:

Noted speed freak, serial-killer fangirl, and Tea Party hero Ayn Rand was also a kleptoparasite, sneakily gobbling up taxpayer funds under an assumed name to pay for her medical treatments after she got lung cancer.

An interview with Evva Pryror, a social worker and consultant to Miss Rand's law firm of Ernst, Cane, Gitlin and Winick verified that on Miss Rand's behalf she secured Rand's Social Security and Medicare payments which Ayn received under the name of Ann O'Connor (husband Frank O'Connor).

As Pryor said, "Doctors cost a lot more money than books earn and she could be totally wiped out" without the aid of these two government programs. Ayn took the bail out even though Ayn "despised government interference and felt that people should and could live independently... She didn't feel that an individual should take help."

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#1. To: Fred Mertz, A K A Stone, hondo68, Fred Mertz, Godwinson, go65, war, no gnu taxes, Skip Intro, ferret mike, jwpegler, brian s, mcgowanjm, The Blue Cat (#0)

"Doctors cost a lot more money than books earn and she could be totally wiped out without the aid of these two government programs."

Yep. That's why those programs were created.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-04-17   10:59:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: lucysmom (#1)

The programs were created because of Rand?

Your tagline is silly considering how much blood the democrats have on their hands murdering little pretty innocent babies.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-04-17   11:03:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: A K A Stone (#2)

Your tagline is silly considering how much blood the democrats have on their hands murdering little pretty innocent babies.

Of course there are Democrats that don't support the right to choose and Republicans who do - but that messes up the whole black and white approach to politics.

Too bad life isn't that simple.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-04-17   11:12:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: lucysmom, A K A Stone (#5)

Of course there are Democrats that don't support the right to choose and Republicans who do - but that messes up the whole black and white approach to politics.

I'm interested in your gray approach especially in regard to 'choice' since that issue caused my permanent expulsion from FR's taliban cult.

harrowup  posted on  2011-04-17   11:25:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: harrowup (#7)

I'm interested in your gray approach especially in regard to 'choice' since that issue caused my permanent expulsion from FR's taliban cult.

I don't think I can help you understand why you were expelled from FR.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-04-17   11:48:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: lucysmomk, A K A Stone (#10)

I don't think I can help you understand why you were expelled from FR.

Don't be a smartass, Ma; I asked you what your gray approach to politics is as opposed to that which you criticized, black & white.

You either have an answer or you're just blowing smoke.

Stone? Your view is certainly extreme and of course neither reasonable nor probable.

Some times pregnancy is truly a mistake.

My own idea on abortion is that the first one is free unless the father is known and he pays) and without condemnation.

A second abortion is costly and results in automatic sterilization of the mother.

The father in the second abortion is required to pay.

Anyone fined for an abortion as the father would be above who reoffends is castrated.

Anyone executing an abortion provider must adopt all future children born who would have been serviced by said abortion provider.

Until the RC Church permits birth control we're stuck.

Until the government stops paying for abortions we're stuck.

Just my opinion.

harrowup  posted on  2011-04-17   14:09:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: harrowup (#17)

Stone? Your view is certainly extreme and of course neither reasonable nor probable.

My view is reasonable and consistent with what we do with murderers and their accomplices in this and every nation on earth.

It is extreme to allow the annihilation if millions of little pretty babies.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-04-18   15:29:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: A K A Stone (#18)

It is extreme to allow the annihilation if millions of little pretty babies.

No question about it. How many 'pretty little babies' born to parents ill- equipped to raise them have you and your associates adopted to give them a life without pain and abuse?

harrowup  posted on  2011-04-18   20:27:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: harrowup, A K A Stone (#20)

How many 'pretty little babies' born to parents ill- equipped to raise them have you and your associates adopted...?

You mean before you and your associates exterminated them? It's hard to adopt 'pretty little babies' if you murder them before their first breaths of air out of the womb.

MEMO TO HARROWUP and "parents ill- equipped to raise" them:

STOP MURDERING THE UNBORN AS A SUBSTITUTE FOR "BIRTH CONTROL."

Liberator  posted on  2011-04-18   20:38:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Liberator (#23)

I have always tried to view the situation rationally and without blame. The first abortion is a mistake. The second abortion should be harshly punished.

Can't be any clearer than that since it ain't never going to happen your way.

harrowup  posted on  2011-04-18   20:43:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#30. To: harrowup (#27) (Edited)

I have always tried to view the situation rationally and without blame. The first abortion is a mistake.

But there IS blame. There is no such thing as a mulligan when stealing an other's life. And yes, you are rationalizing.

The second abortion should be harshly punished.

The second murder victim is no more worthy of life than the first.

Can't be any clearer than that since it ain't never going to happen your way.

NOT going to be your way either; The way man's law is, two or twenty abortions/murders are sanctioned by the state.

Liberator  posted on  2011-04-18 20:50:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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