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Title: A question of a hack or not turns into....Lies, Insults,Gossip, Deceit, Hate, Innuendo,?TRUTH? Spreads Across the Internet
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Published: Apr 14, 2011
Author: Yukon
Post Date: 2011-04-14 14:58:01 by A K A Stone
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Views: 981981
Comments: 877
Stone, why don't you post all the information you have available. Why do you allow this to fester? I've contacted you by PM and you haven't answered. What the hell is the deal?
yukon posted on 2011-04-14
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Here are the posts that are made with the new ip number. The computer that you usually used was different then the one used with the new ip number. 2011-03-29 11:24:52 Edit Art: 19110 Com: 26 war <-- Both --> Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.16) Gecko/20110319 Firefox/3.6.16 Bucky...dude...c'mon. And what about you willie? Still haven't figured out why I constantly bring up that picture of you? LOLAY 2011-03-29 11:08:21 Edit Art: 19110 Com: 12 buckeroo 67.159.56.162 <-- Both --> Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.16) Gecko/20110319 Firefox/3.6.16 Are you really yukon? I'm guessing no one has ever accused you of being with Mensa International. LOLAY 2011-03-29 10:18:11 Edit Art: 19110 Com: 6 war <-- Both --> Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.16) Gecko/20110319 Firefox/3.6.16 Who gave the spandex-wearing coward permission to speak? 2011-03-29 07:58:53 Edit Art: 19110 Com: 2 CZ82 <-- Both --> Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.16) Gecko/20110319 Firefox/3.6.16 Don't give them the satisfaction...... With all the emotions I'm overcome with now, the scumbags and liars are the least concern. 2011-03-29 07:11:56 Edit Art: 19110 Com: 0 All 95.154.230.191 <-- Both --> Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.16) Gecko/20110319 Firefox/3.6.16 I'm really gay. I admit it. Are you asshole jackals happy now? 2011-03-29 00:23:23 Edit Art: 19108 Com: 28 Fred Mertz This was posted under your ip you use all the time 2011-03-29 00:13:39 Edit Art: 19108 Com: 26 buckeroo
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#41. To: Tater (#40)
SUCK UP! &;-)
But then I would have to ban this guy http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=19375&Disp=22
Nah ... there are things you will never know. My appreciation was sincere.
Let's just say, there are things I don't want to know...lol
They will just come back with new screen names and new ISPs. Disrupting forums is a fun game for them.
But what good is that thread trying to reach out to whack White Sands? It is just a continuation of the problem of promoting squabbling and fighting between people that shuts discussion down. I looked at your thread and note this is something that irritates you very much personally, but objectively, it is right in the context of how WS operates.
I understand what you are saying. But what is a personal attack? Is it calling someone a faggot? What if you just call them an idiot or dumb? What if you just quote something they posted and say that it is really dumb? It is kind of hard precisely define.
Truly great friends are hard to find, difficult to leave, and impossible to forget. ~ Anonymous
If if were my forum ,I would not worry about what words people use. I would give someone three warnings about thread stalking ,and then put their favorite screen name on time out. Thread stalking is what is really going to ruin the fun and peace of a site, and thread stalking is pretty obvious and simple to enforce.
I will go with that ... I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious. ~ Vince Lombardi I am exhausted ...
Is no one going to apologize to yukon ...
Boofer can't take it when he is not in a position of authority. He's had that problem since he turned his back on LaRosa's chili.
America...My Kind Of Place...
IS NO ONE GOING TO APOLOGIZE TO YUKON ...
And from my perspective Stone is like the parent trying so hard for the fun of being his 'kid's' friend, he shuns the work of making it grow right and flourish. On Time.Com/Politics we called a thread starter a 'thread parent' to instill some sense of obligation to nurture a good thread taking off. He needs to have rules and standards everyone has to follow, he need to be a good forum parent. I have written him before at length giving him my feed back on what I see work or not work in forums, but really; he is the one who has to stand up and say, "enough" and look to people like McIver and others for feedback on how to make this place run fairly and be a place fun to engage in lively debate and discussion in. With all due respect Stone, you have to ditch some of the ego and admit you need feedback and the help of others to make this place flourish. You don't necessarily need it from me or any other one person, but you are continually trying to do the same thing hoping for different results every time you do so. That is just insane. With all due respect. I know I don't like coming here to focus wrath of hatred on anyone, especially those with whom I do not agree with politically or share a world view with. It would be nice to have a level playing field where articles and pieces are posted properly and when a discussion does not form agreement, people agree to disagree and can conclude a thread though things morphing into strange revenge attempts and grudge matches. Just my take on it. You have many people here with a great deal of posting experience, and you should respect them enough to promote consistency and fairness in how this place runs.
For what? He's never admitted to being Ibluafartsky.
America...My Kind Of Place...
I expected better from you ... I really did. If yukon admits to being Iblufartsky here and now ... Then are you ready to OPENLY apologize to yukon?
Send the recipe. I always try to make my chili better. ;-)
Until you ban anyone using your news listings for personal attacks, this won't stop, Stone I understand what you are saying. But what is a personal attack? Defined for this discussion: Personal Attack Thread - a thread solely created to abuse a member of YOUR FORUM via your Right Hand Column that allegedly lists 'news articles'. Having comments in reaction to a posters stated opinion is 'part of it' Stone. Thats what happens in these forums, and you have the filter available for those of us that simply lose interest in what somebody has to say. But the filter doesn't block 'personal attack threads' as defined up above. And they damn sure don't add anything positive to your forum here. So, again...why do you allow it? Whats the point of doing so?
I hear you knockin...go back where you been....
God help me...I completely and totally agree with everything Ferret says here.
I hear you knockin...go back where you been....
Then are you ready to OPENLY apologize to yukon? As I have told you that simply opens more questions. The question is rhetorical as you know. He can't admit to it.
America...My Kind Of Place...
I'm not...then again I didn't engage in this nonsense as it related to him.
I hear you knockin...go back where you been....
In the face of knowing Stone is forth coming as to the two accounts having the same IP addy all Yukon will ever do is just dummy up on the subject. The thing we could do and did do was establish what we already figured out; that Yukon had this account. The one thing we can't do is make someone thousands of miles away from us in Alaska do our beck and call and fess up. Just my take on it.
Why don't you start you own website, Boofer, instead of telling everyone else how to run theirs? It's a pattern with you...Pipe...LP...FR...GBR...LF...
America...My Kind Of Place...
I duuno.. running these forums is not easy.. and I think he is doing a fine job. Stone has always taken care of me- when I asked. I have no complaints. I don't blame him for this mess. I wouldn't want to sit here and nanny people either, and I wouldn't want to have a bunch of mods- with different personalities, running around either. Rules are fine, but then someone has to enforce them- and who really wants that job? Who has time for that? AND even then, there is no way to keep everyone happy. It is unfortunate that some people take things too far- and disrupt. It is unfortunate that some people have no self control. He could ask for feedback- and experience from others, but it is his site. We can all go and start our own sites, if we want the headache. I don't want the headache. I wish people could just be responsible for themselves. Small government and small mod~ships. :)
The new screen names is relatively easy to deal with via this particular forums software. You can limit a new poster to as few posts as the host decides. Pretty sure you can block a ISP as well, in a couple of ways, if the host desires, but Stone would have to address that. Switching ISP's is a pain in the ass, having played that game a few years with with freedumb4em (grin)...so I don't think thats all that big of a deal. Some here have two or three ISP's, like the dwarf (office and home) but most do not.
I hear you knockin...go back where you been....
Can those questions be answered ... If so tell me how. Let's discuss this further through PM. My message about an apology was not directed to you ... it may have seemed that way, I sincerely apologize if it did.
What is (was?) GBR?
People actually like a level playing field and though it is not fun to do a chore that will inevitably alienate some; someone has to do the administrative work which includes setting clear and consistent standards of behavior and enforcing them fairly. And he really is a guy who gets extremely passionate in his beliefs and he needs someone he trusts to work with him to give him a reality check to help keep his perspective. I appreciate it that he is at least mature enough to fess up when he did something that he would not of done except for the heat of the moment. But he can be a good administrator if he gets help from another he trusts who can help him avoid those moments when passion over rides reason. I am not perfect in that regard either and I have worked as a moderator and got slapped for losing my perspective when I got my Irish up over something. If I owned this place, or a place like this, I definitely would get someone's help to keep me focused on what was good for the venue, not just for me and what my ego in the heat of the moment says it wants me to do. It is never wrong to ask for and receive help. That was one of the hardest things I have had to learn in 56 years on this planet.
There are people who know how to post from multiple ISPs. Trust me.
If A doesn't equal B, it isn't necessarily because A is false, or B True or the inverse. Circular logic is full of peril for the practitioner. War implies he has an answer to a question he can't ask until he has another answer. That is not a straw man. That is a burning bush. (npi)
Ahhh ... Logic ... often misunderstood and many times seldom used. Some folks forget to, or don't know how to, use the formal systematic principles of valid inference and correct reasoning ... and they fail to understand that Logic is used in most intellectual activities.
Ping ...
Ping ...
Ping ...
Ping ...
Forgot to answer you up-thread, but thank you; I hope we have seen an end to this for all but those with a vested interest in maintaining the ugliness and deliberate misrepresentations regarding yukon.
"Yukon asked for this" Ping ... You don't 'ping' libby; you ding-a-ling him and his choir.
There ... took care of that. Thank you ...
Itoo hope that we have seen an end to this ugliness and deliberate misrepresentations regarding yukon. This has run its course ... it has gone far enough. Now, let there be Peace in the Valley .
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#42. To: Murron (#39)
#43. To: Murron, A K A Stone (#41)
SUCK UP! &;-)
#44. To: Tater (#43)
Nah ... there are things you will never know.
#45. To: Badeye (#36)
#46. To: A K A Stone (#42)
#47. To: Badeye (#36)
Until you ban anyone using your news listings for personal attacks, this won't stop, Stone
#48. To: yukon, harrowup (#43)
#49. To: A K A Stone (#47)
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#50. To: Murron (#44)
#51. To: All (#50)
#52. To: A K A Stone (#47)
#53. To: All (#51)
#54. To: diva betsy ross (#45)
"Disrupting forums is a fun game for them."
#55. To: Tater (#51)
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#56. To: war (#55)
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#57. To: war (#52)
"LaRosa's chili"
#58. To: A K A Stone (#47)
#59. To: Ferret Mike, all (#54)
#60. To: Tater (#56)
If yukon admits to being Iblufartsky here and now ...
#61. To: Tater (#53)
#62. To: war (#55)
"He's never admitted to being Ibluafartsky."
#63. To: Badeye (#58)
#64. To: Ferret Mike (#54)
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#65. To: diva betsy ross (#45)
They will just come back with new screen names and new ISPs. Disrupting forums is a fun game for them.
#66. To: war (#60)
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As I have told you that simply opens more questions.
#67. To: war, Badeye (#63)
...GBR...
#68. To: diva betsy ross (#64)
#69. To: Badeye (#65)
#70. To: Tater, war (#66)
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Can those questions be answered ... If so tell me how.
#71. To: harrowup (#70)
... logic ...
#72. To: liberator (#53)
Yukon asked for this
#73. To: buckeroo (#53)
Yukon asked for this
#74. To: Bill D Berger (#53)
#75. To: Wood_Chopper (#53)
Yukon asked for this
#76. To: Tater, A K A Stone, Zesta, yukon (#71)
#77. To: Tater, liberator, yukon (#72)
To: liberator
#78. To: harrowup, ding-a-ling and his choir. (#77)
#79. To: Tater, buckeroo, yukon (#73)
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#80. To: harrowup, A K A Stone (#76)
I hope we have seen an end to this for all but those with a vested interest in maintaining the ugliness and deliberate misrepresentations regarding yukon.
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