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Title: A question of a hack or not turns into....Lies, Insults,Gossip, Deceit, Hate, Innuendo,?TRUTH? Spreads Across the Internet
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Published: Apr 14, 2011
Author: Yukon
Post Date: 2011-04-14 14:58:01 by A K A Stone
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Stone, why don't you post all the information you have available. Why do you allow this to fester? I've contacted you by PM and you haven't answered. What the hell is the deal?
yukon posted on 2011-04-14
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Here are the posts that are made with the new ip number. The computer that you usually used was different then the one used with the new ip number. 2011-03-29 11:24:52 Edit Art: 19110 Com: 26 war <-- Both --> Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.16) Gecko/20110319 Firefox/3.6.16 Bucky...dude...c'mon. And what about you willie? Still haven't figured out why I constantly bring up that picture of you? LOLAY 2011-03-29 11:08:21 Edit Art: 19110 Com: 12 buckeroo 67.159.56.162 <-- Both --> Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.16) Gecko/20110319 Firefox/3.6.16 Are you really yukon? I'm guessing no one has ever accused you of being with Mensa International. LOLAY 2011-03-29 10:18:11 Edit Art: 19110 Com: 6 war <-- Both --> Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.16) Gecko/20110319 Firefox/3.6.16 Who gave the spandex-wearing coward permission to speak? 2011-03-29 07:58:53 Edit Art: 19110 Com: 2 CZ82 <-- Both --> Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.16) Gecko/20110319 Firefox/3.6.16 Don't give them the satisfaction...... With all the emotions I'm overcome with now, the scumbags and liars are the least concern. 2011-03-29 07:11:56 Edit Art: 19110 Com: 0 All 95.154.230.191 <-- Both --> Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.16) Gecko/20110319 Firefox/3.6.16 I'm really gay. I admit it. Are you asshole jackals happy now? 2011-03-29 00:23:23 Edit Art: 19108 Com: 28 Fred Mertz This was posted under your ip you use all the time 2011-03-29 00:13:39 Edit Art: 19108 Com: 26 buckeroo
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#349. To: 22rifle (#346)
hookup
And the sheep will bleat their submission, Burma Shave.
And shuffle to the door.
Sorry, bad old paratrooper reflex at work.
tuna fishing. One on the line!
And the sheep will bleat their submission, Burma Shave.
no problem.
And the sheep will bleat their submission, Burma Shave.
Stand up Hook up And shuffle to the door. I forget the rest.
Jump right out and count to 4...
I changed my lp password !
If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons are for girlie boys !
You are a good guy, W C. Even if you get political things wrong time to time. Yukon came in here and made a flame bait play pen out of here and that didn't bother Mr. Stone here. He should think about that when he makes dumb cracks about it's all Yukon's political opponents not liking him. It's about his lack of human respect and disregard of even the slightest degree of politesse that works against him. Maybe some day Stone will learn that just because he thinks someone's school yard bully routine is entertaining, he will understand how such behavior hurts the credibility and reputation of his venue, Liberty's Flame. He was wrong to let Yukon run wild in the account. And as far as Yukon's hacker claim goes, many of us know better than to lend him any veracity there. He is untrustworthy, and no one in his right mind would defend him. Politics has little to do with this.
And if my chute don't open wide, I'll be part of the countryside.
Thanks Mike. Thanks for the things you said about me on the locked thread. It was much appreciated, but it was locked so I couldn't respond. Me, wrong about politics? Balderdash! Poppyyukonplaything! At any rate, 22rifle took the bait, as did yukon. Wasn't sure they were banned. I posted that Stone would ban the gang. They responded. They can't resist. The fact he hasn't banned them tells me all I need to know. Stone has admitted he can't tell if a poster's account here has been messed with. That should be a GIANT red flag to posters here. This site will go back to what it was before, with maybe 2 posts a month.
And the sheep will bleat their submission, Burma Shave.
You are asking ME? lol... I am beginning to think they are all the same person. They are all the same kind of crazy. They are all best friends, and have this thing about being willing to die on the hill of cyber friendship thing, that seems so weird- but is so darn serious to them. They are all rabidly insane stalkers for buckeroo and myself. They all are dedicated to fighting the "bad guys" of the internet, who don't agree with them- by stalking, harassing, threatening and disrupting. It is hard to tell the difference between Harrowup's and Gatlin's posts. Throw Murron and Mel in there- and it is Mad Hatters Tea Party. Ever notice that? In fact once I gave Gatlin my email address on LP- a LOOOONG time ago- and Harrowup wrote me. I once wrote something to Mel- and Murron, a person brand new to me- responded as if she had known me a long time. Isn't that silly? Oh and harrowup was best friends with Mel as well and posted the same exact "Ode to protecting a friend" at Mel's stalking site, Tears of a Kloughn. Co-inky dink, no doubt. I am sure they are just riding in on their white horses to save us all from internet bullying.
He's dead on with this one. And I believe you know that.
America...My Kind Of Place...
http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=19628&Disp=2#C2
------------------------------------- Um ... ah, I posted that link by mistake. AKA, can you delete that? (Shit, that does happen!)
------------------------------------- Harrowup has a long reputation of this, and so do screen names he associates with. I would hope that Stone sees it now. While we all realize the cyber-world is chock full of delusional psychopaths, it can't be discounted that some of these posters may be paid shills as well. For them, cyber-space replaces reality. I don't know what Stone sees or wants to see, but forums like this are more or less a hobby, or take the place of a pet for folks like he and Goldi. OR, it may even be a source of income in lieu of entities who don't mind stuffing the Tip Jar in exchange of promoting a certain agenda.
#1. To: Goldi-Lox (#0) I used the wrong link. yukon posted on 2011-03-27 1:40:47 ET
Frankly, sir, I believe that you've carried enough water for Yukon and that you should allow him to stand on his own two feet. 1) Was the LP password changed from the "new" ISP? 2) Is Yukon Ibluafartsky? 3) Why did he create the name "Vermin exterminator"? Can we definitively satisfy these inquiries, Stone? Thanks.
#1. To: Goldi-Lox (#0) I used the wrong link. yukon posted on 2011-03-27 1:40:47 ET
I wish I made some money on this Liberator. Maybe some day I will put some ads up to fund this place. All I know about the people mentioned in your response is what they post here. I don't have the time to go investigate people on other forums.
As I suggested earlier, places like this are a hobby more or less for their owners. But FWIW Tater/Gatlin boasted recently (during this latest yukon/ibluafartsky admission and controversy) of his coincidental large contributions to the owner of LP. He just coincidentally also happens to have an agenda. No offense to you intended. All I know about the people mentioned in your response is what they post here. I don't have the time to go investigate people on other forums. Of course I understand that...And if I were you I wouldn't automatically assume certain posters were playing games either.
#1. To: Goldi-Lox (#0) I used the wrong link. yukon posted on 2011-03-27 1:40:47 ET
Hmm- could be that the trolls are paid.. I had not thought of that. As far as forum owners go, when the forum is a hobby, I think it is a matter of leadership. Some people are natural leaders and organizers, so it is fun or relaxing for them. When they are making money- they have just found a good niche. More power to them. :) Either way- trolls disrupting the site have got to be annoying. If the owner doesn't know the history- or have the time to put together a back story, they are left on their own of WHO to trust. I will rest easy knowing that Stone has enough info at this point to protect himself if he needs it- and he is a big boy and will figure out if he needs to protect himself. The info is all right here at his own site. I just keep telling my story, when these people pop up on the site that I am posting from. The people who need to hear it will- and those who don't need it, can ignore me. As far as I go, if the site owner allows lots of thread stalking from these people, I just leave and find a different forum, where I can have fun. All bases are covered. :)
I am passing through to post a PM and noticed your ping … I will try to be of assistance. If I read Stone’s post correctly, I believe Stone “indicated” that the last post Iblufartsky made on the ISP he has always used, was: Post Date: 2011-03-29 00:13:39 From: Ibluafartsky To: buckeroo My date/time records from a “reliable source” shows that the last post Iblufartsky made on the ISP he has always used, was: Post Date: 2011-03-29 00:23:23 From: Ibluafartsky To: Fred Mertz My records also shows that the first time the hacker used the “new” ISP located in the UK, was: Post Date: 2011-03-29 07:11:56 From: Ibluafartsky To: All I haven't found any knew (sic) information that would reveal the fact that Yukon was hacked prior to posting the outing thread at LP. Nor have I. I checked my records and I can find that happening nowhere. And if I read Stone’s and Goldi’s posts correctly, they also have found no information that would reveal Your question quite naturally framed a question for me to ask you back … the question is: Why would it be expected that Ibluafartsky/yukon was hacked prior to the hacker posting his thread at LP (and LF, for that matter)? Why did he create the name "Vermin exterminator"? I have that answer somewhere, I know that I do … I just cannot find it right now. Was the LP password changed from the "new" ISP? It is my understanding that the “new” ISP was recorded at the time the hacker posted the bogus threads on both LP and LF. Is Yukon Ibluafartsky? I cannot help but notice the intense interest to have this question resolved. I know of three posters (and more, if I recall correctly) who have a dedicated effort to learn the answer to this question. I can understand the question, but I cannot understand this much dedicated interest on what everyone accepts as a “given.” I have offered to get that question answered if I can have a stated valid reason showing that an answer is absolutely necessary and what purpose the answer will serve … that gracious offer still stands. I see that I have one more question to answer from another poster … I will return later this evening to take care of that matter. Sir, it is and always will be my esteem pleasure to serve you, I ask you to please call on me should an opportunity again present that need. With my warmest personal regards,
Ya, no shit.. by this point I think everyone has heard it many times. You can shut the fuck up now you annoying bitch.
------------------------------------- Boy, are YOU FOS! You're still here huh?
And the sheep will bleat their submission, Burma Shave.
ping, Richard.
And the sheep will bleat their submission, Burma Shave.
Yet, you read every single one of my posts- and beg for my attention and feedback on your posts. Even after I have ignored 99.5% of your posts and attempts to contact me. That must be sorta embarassing, being rejected, by me, like that all of the time. Have you been tested for OCD? I think that sounds like a healthy option for you. There is a peaceful life for you, Biffy. You just might have to change a few behaviors. I am sure you can do it. I will pray for you. Best wishes.
And the rest of my post in #300. What about that? I am glad you asked. I was not ignoring the rest of your post; I did not have time to address it … I will do so now. The rest of your Post #300: yukon also never said on any of his new accounts that he was the real yukon and that his account had been hacked. I find that very odd. If I found out that someone had taken over my account, that's the first thing I would have done. Tater also never said on any of his new accounts that he was the real Gatlin and made no comments that an account of his had also been hacked. I do not find it, as you did, at all odd … what yukon did “not” do. I have found it to be commonly accepted that different people react in different way to different things. There are number of reasons for this: These reasons all combined allow for great variations on people's ways of seeing and reacting to things … and there are surely more factors. Oh. and all your posts look fake to me. Not a fookin' in the whole lot. Then you did not look very closely and you obviously have a fallacy that violates the relevance criterion. You need to understand that the relevance criterion requires that one who presents an argument against a position should attempt to set forth only reasons that are directly related to the merit of the position at issue. Your appeal to tradition fallacy or the is/ought fallacy is a common logical fallacy in which a thesis is deemed correct on the basis that it correlates with some past or present tradition. Your correlation to fookin” did not apply because it’s not always is to be or always ought to be in order to be a valid Iblufastsky/yukon post. You were incorrect in your assessment. All the posts were NOT fake. Some of the posts were actual copy and paste from Iblufartsky/yukon posts here on LF … while the others were copy and paste posts from some more of the actual Iblufartsky/yukon posts here on LF, and I simply mixed the word order. Oh I did change the times on all of them so you couldn’t cheat and do a “From ___ To___” look up. However, you would make a good stand-in for yukon. Please stop a minute and think about what you just said. You must realize that anyone who has ever read any Ibluafartsky/yukon posts would make a good stand-in for yukon. You have just admitted you know that, I admit that I know that, and we both realize that the hacker knew that. That is an IMPORTANT OBSERVATION you made. Consider the fact that the hacker had all the time in the world to post what he wanted to post and to post it when he wanted to. The hacker selectively picked the posts he wanted to make a response to and then looked in the From: Ibluafartsky and the To: (the poster to whom he was about to post) and picked a universal yukon comment fitting to all occasions (as most of them really are), then did a copy and paste. After that, there was zauberwort! When's your shift start? I will always ignore a flippant remark … I will make no exception for you. You issued a challenge to anyone, I accepted that challenge and I prove that you can’t recognize hacker generated Iblufartsky/yukon posts from real posts that Ibluafartsky/yukon actually made. Now, would you like to make a wager. I am prepred to consider a wager that I can hack your account here on LF, steal your password and post an admission/confession that you are a homosexual. (You must not have changed your password after 4/15/11). In order to make the wager, I would need a signed agreement for permissible conditions from you, and I would need the same from Stone authorizing me to be a white hat hacker (one who breaks security for non-malicious reasons such as testing the security system … as Stone would be authorizing me to do). FYI: The “white hat” hacker is also called an “ethical hacker” … and I do want to forever remain ethical. You will probably want to skip right on by this paragraph because the minimum wager must be an extremely large amount (to be specified later) for me to take time to do it … and there would be certain mutually restrictive agreed conditions, plus the monies would be held in an escrow account. Skippy, I respectfully suggest that you don't believe something just because you read it on the internet. That’s some good advice, Skippy … but why do I know that you don’t follow good advice? The following is not only something you should know, Skippy … it contains important information that everyone should know: During the past year someone has registered at Liberty Post on a number of different Sunday mornings and posted porn. The person posting the porn specifically chose Sunday morning because he was acutely aware that Goldi did not post or monitor the forum on Sunday and that the post would stay up for at least one full day. Considering that, it should be no surprise for you to learn that the same person who had been posting porn on Sunday mornings at Liberty Post off and on for some time, also chose a Sunday morning to post the I used the wrong link porno yukon thread. Objectively considering all of this factual information, it should be of no surprise for you to learn that the same person who posted many porn threads on many Sunday mornings on Liberty is the same person who posted the I used the wrong link yukon thread and again chose a Sunday morning. Furthermore, it also should be no surprise for you to learn that the person who posted all the porn threads, including the I used the wrong link porno yukon thread used the same ISP each time he posted all those porn threads. It can be intelligently concluded that the person posting all those various porn threads (including the I used the wrong link porno yukon thread) on LP during the many Sunday mornings while using the same ISP to do so obviously is someone who has a long standing grudge against Goldi and yukon … obviously. In order to follow the electronic footprints through his front door directly to his computer keyboard, it is necessary to first look for the person who has a long standing grudge against Goldi and yukon. That is where I started looking to follow his footsteps. Look carefully and discover that it was not yukon saying I used the wrong link … it was the hacker saying I am not as smart as I thought I was, I should not have established such an obvious pattern and continually used the same ISP. A dumb hacker does dumb things … A smart hacker does dumber thing ~ Gatlin
Well, color me dumb; and I am color dumb. But, I thought we agreed not to share anything more with the boys in the band; let them wrestle with it for a touch.
You are correct ... sorry. I will not post anything else without coordinating with you. Edit: I'm gone ...
Bullshit, you psycho.
------------------------------------- Breathlessly she writes....LOLAH
I shall "fix" your real intent there, tugboat annie .... Breathlessly I, a mere pawn of LP Kloaughns wait for "yukon"....EWLOLAH
I will rest easy knowing that Stone has enough info at this point to protect himself if he needs it...if the site owner allows lots of thread stalking from these people, I just leave and find a different forum, where I can have fun. There are basically two types of forum disruptors - trolls and shills. There are several styles of course, but the conman style someone like...say Tater/Gatlin uses is the tried and true "blowing-smoke-up-my-ass" variety. Will Stone succumb to the crocodile smile and flattery of someone like...say Tater/Gatlin? Who knows. As to any site management that encourages this kind of chicanery or the thread-stalking, it really depends on the degree of an owner's seriousness and bent of philosophy. Some measure of courtesy is expected; And if a poster feels the fun, challenge, or freedom to exchange ideas is sucked out of a forum by parasites and canaries, there are of course other options.
#1. To: Goldi-Lox (#0) I used the wrong link. yukon posted on 2011-03-27 1:40:47 ET
I guess I will open this thread up again for a while since I received this from Neil. Folder: Inbox Date: April 17 9:20:31 PM From: Pinguinite To: A K A Stone Subject: Re: Yukon asked for this The thread's locked so I can't reply on-line. Can you tell us when the password was changed or if it was changed. I could only do that by comparing the current PW with something from the archives, and that would require loading up the older files which is a bit of effort. But keep in mind that only someone with admin access to the site can change PWs. Can you tell if there were several attempts to learn his password? Log in attempts are not logged, so the only thing I could do is look in the apache (web site) log files. They may show lots of login attempts but they won't tell me the ID or PW of what is attempted, and I could only infer if the attempts were made on the same ID based on the IP address. Do you know any other information that might be useful No, not really.
You have claimed that your password was hacked. I took you at your word. Since I can change passwords I didn't think it thru that you guys can't. It seems that you are checkmated. You did say you couldn't log onto your account. If anyone thinks I took the wrong approach sorry.
Yukon's old password at LP was guessed within minutes. Assuming that someone did guess the simple passwords yukon used at both sites, all the hacker had to do was sign in as yukon and Ibluafartsky and change the passwords. That would take no admin access to do that. While any unauthorized entry into a computer (system) is legally called hacking .. technically the guessing of a password and entering a computer is not hacking. I think Neil is referring to someone having access to all PWs to change and that may not be (probably is not) the case here and at LP. If this is true, then Neil will be able to determine nothing ... is that correct Neil
So the bullshit claims that someone was spoofing an ip and had "hacked" yukon's account and changed the password, keeping yukon out of his account, was BULLSHIT!!!!!!!! They would have had to hack your admin account to lock yukon out of his account by changing the password. And EVERYTHING "the gang" has been perpetrating on your posters here is BULLSHIT. And when people were exposing them, YOU LOCKED THE THREADS. See ya around, Stone.
And the sheep will bleat their submission, Burma Shave.
Go ahead and try to change your password. You can't.
I locked them because it was my opinion that people were annoyed that that was the only subject being talked about. I felt weird about everyone accusing a person of being a faggot. If you wish to leave that is your prerogative. I've enjoyed your posts. Take care.
Ya fucking douchebag, the guy who wrote the software for this place just said users can't change their passwords, ONLY ADMIN can. You fucking know better than he does???????? You're pathetic, but my guess is you will allowed to continue to post here.
And the sheep will bleat their submission, Burma Shave.
It seems that you are checkmated. You did say you couldn't log onto your account. If anyone thinks I took the wrong approach sorry. If someone guesses a password and enters a computer, that is legally hacking. If that someone then changes the password so that only he can make posts ... then yukon could not enter LF as he stated he could not. There will be no evidence that happened. Yukon stated (somewhere, I will need to find it) that he made his last post to Fred and then when he tried to sign back in, he could not. He then noticed that someone was posting as Iblufartsky. Is this correct yukon? The main evidence I see to consider is that yukon has for years at LP and also as long as he has been on LF ... used the same ISP. So during all that time, the question I would ask is why would he go to the trouble to hide his old ISP and go out to find and use a proxy ISP to make come out of the closet? I have no answer for that question ... How is that a checkmate ... please?
You better take a close look at whoever was annoyed.
And the sheep will bleat their submission, Burma Shave.
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Seeing the others as fools,
Not knowing nor even caring,
They've become no more than tools.
#350. To: Wood_Chopper (#349)
#351. To: Wood_Chopper (#349)
#352. To: Ferret Mike (#350)
(Edited)
And shuffle to the door.
Seeing the others as fools,
Not knowing nor even caring,
They've become no more than tools.
#353. To: Ferret Mike (#351)
Seeing the others as fools,
Not knowing nor even caring,
They've become no more than tools.
#354. To: Ferret Mike (#350)
And shuffle to the door.
#355. To: Ferret Mike (#350)
#356. To: Rek (#334)
I vote that the hacker should hack YOUR account next.
#357. To: Wood_Chopper (#349)
(Edited)
#358. To: Fred Mertz (#355)
#359. To: Ferret Mike (#357)
You are a good guy, W C. Even if you get political things wrong time to time.
Seeing the others as fools,
Not knowing nor even caring,
They've become no more than tools.
#360. To: Rek (#336)
#361. To: A K A Stone (#338)
But he doesn't always get it right.
#362. To: yukon (#361)
Why don't you make like a tree and get out of here?
#363. To: All (#362)
Why don't you make like a tree and get out of here?
#364. To: diva betsy ross, A K A Stone (#282)
It seems far fetched- but yes- Gatlin and harrowup are cyber stalkers. The real deal. Classic troll/s, to disrupt and cause damage.
#365. To: war, A K A Stone, ALL (#283)
I haven't found any knew information that would reveal the fact that Yukon was hacked prior to posting the outing thread at LP.
#366. To: Liberator (#364)
#367. To: A K A Stone (#366)
I wish I made some money on this Liberator. Maybe some day I will put some ads up to fund this place.
#368. To: Liberator (#364)
#369. To: war, A K A Stone (#283)
(Edited)
the fact that Yukon was hacked prior to posting the outing thread at LP. I believe it has been both stated and concluded that the “new” ISP in the UK was first used at the initial entry into the respective forums for the specific purpose of posting the two bogus threads.
Tater, aka Gatlin
#370. To: diva betsy ross (#368)
I just keep telling my story
Why don't you make like a tree and get out of here?
#371. To: Tater, A K A Stone (#369)
Seeing the others as fools,
Not knowing nor even caring,
They've become no more than tools.
#372. To: yukon, aka Richard, A K A Stone (#284)
Seeing the others as fools,
Not knowing nor even caring,
They've become no more than tools.
#373. To: Biff Tannen (#370)
#374. To: Skip Intro, A K A Stone, harrowup, ALL (#327)
(Edited)
#375. To: Tater (#374)
A dumb hacker does dumb things … A smart hacker does dumber thing ~ Gatlin
#376. To: harrowup (#375)
(Edited)
Well, color me dumb; and I am color dumb. But, I thought we agreed not to share anything more with the boys in the band; let them wrestle with it for a touch.
#377. To: diva betsy ross (#373)
attempts to contact me
Why don't you make like a tree and get out of here?
#378. To: Biff Tannen (#377)
Bullshit, you psycho.
#379. To: harrowup (#378)
Breathlessly she writes....LOLAH
#380. To: diva betsy ross, A K A Stone (#368)
Hmm- could be that the trolls are paid... I had not thought of that. As far as forum owners go, when the forum is a hobby, I think it is a matter of leadership.
#381. To: All, Yukon (#0)
#382. To: Yukon (#381)
#383. To: A K A Stone (#381)
I could only do that by comparing the current PW with something from the archives, and that would require loading up the older files which is a bit of effort. But keep in mind that only someone with admin access to the site can change PWs.
#384. To: A K A Stone (#381)
But keep in mind that only someone with admin access to the site can change PWs.
Seeing the others as fools,
Not knowing nor even caring,
They've become no more than tools.
#385. To: Tater (#383)
all the hacker had to do was sign in as yukon and Ibluafartsky and change the passwords.
#386. To: Wood_Chopper (#384)
#387. To: Tater (#383)
Assuming that someone did guess the simple passwords yukon used at both sites, all the hacker had to do was sign in as yukon and Ibluafartsky and change the passwords. That would take no admin access to do that.
Seeing the others as fools,
Not knowing nor even caring,
They've become no more than tools.
#388. To: A K A Stone, yukon (#382)
You have claimed that your password was hacked. I took you at your word. Since I can change passwords I didn't think it thru that you guys can't.
#389. To: A K A Stone (#386)
locked them because it was my opinion that people were annoyed that that was the only subject being talked about.
Seeing the others as fools,
Not knowing nor even caring,
They've become no more than tools.
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