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Title: A question of a hack or not turns into....Lies, Insults,Gossip, Deceit, Hate, Innuendo,?TRUTH? Spreads Across the Internet
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Published: Apr 14, 2011
Author: Yukon
Post Date: 2011-04-14 14:58:01 by A K A Stone
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Views: 999139
Comments: 877

Stone, why don't you post all the information you have available. Why do you allow this to fester? I've contacted you by PM and you haven't answered. What the hell is the deal?

yukon posted on 2011-04-14


Poster Comment: Here are the posts that are made with the new ip number. The computer that you usually used was different then the one used with the new ip number. 2011-03-29 11:24:52 Edit Art: 19110 Com: 26 war <-- Both --> Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.16) Gecko/20110319 Firefox/3.6.16 Bucky...dude...c'mon. And what about you willie? Still haven't figured out why I constantly bring up that picture of you? LOLAY 2011-03-29 11:08:21 Edit Art: 19110 Com: 12 buckeroo 67.159.56.162 <-- Both --> Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.16) Gecko/20110319 Firefox/3.6.16 Are you really yukon? I'm guessing no one has ever accused you of being with Mensa International. LOLAY 2011-03-29 10:18:11 Edit Art: 19110 Com: 6 war <-- Both --> Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.16) Gecko/20110319 Firefox/3.6.16 Who gave the spandex-wearing coward permission to speak? 2011-03-29 07:58:53 Edit Art: 19110 Com: 2 CZ82 <-- Both --> Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.16) Gecko/20110319 Firefox/3.6.16 Don't give them the satisfaction...... With all the emotions I'm overcome with now, the scumbags and liars are the least concern. 2011-03-29 07:11:56 Edit Art: 19110 Com: 0 All 95.154.230.191 <-- Both --> Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.16) Gecko/20110319 Firefox/3.6.16 I'm really gay. I admit it. Are you asshole jackals happy now? 2011-03-29 00:23:23 Edit Art: 19108 Com: 28 Fred Mertz This was posted under your ip you use all the time 2011-03-29 00:13:39 Edit Art: 19108 Com: 26 buckeroo

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#168. To: Murron (#166)

I knew that, I just don't like being pressed into taking sides against another poster, any poster, who hasn't done me any harm. Those who gnashed their teeth and pulled their hair out over this could have put yukon on filter anytime, they chose not and perpetuated this intire mess.

Bullshit. You've been taking sides in this entire thing, with them.

I believe they even named you in posts as one of the "true believers".

And the sheep will bleat their submission,
Seeing the others as fools,
Not knowing nor even caring,
They've become no more than tools.

Burma Shave.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2011-04-14   22:17:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#169. To: Liberator, harrowup, yukon (#132)

I would give credit to the Three Stooges for their (total) effective carpet-bombing of the "power of suggestion," game-playing and set-ups on LF for nearly two weeks. Ultimately, we're left with everyone involved being FOS ... tater/gatlin and h-up were doing their thing. But make no mistake - it was a coordinated effort.

The first priority of this joint air/naval operation was to support our wingman and shipmate, the success of this revolutionized attack was attributed to the addition of a third dimension to the "traditional" forum warfare theater.

The deal was planned and executed with military precision carried through with quality, condition and fact of being marked by and adapted for accuracy to an extreme exactness with great exacting technical refinement in specific measured calculations to microscopic specifications … or in the vernacular of peons which you best understand, it was a f**cking success!

Hawk, “you have the Flag” … Sir!

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2011-04-14   22:22:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#170. To: A K A Stone, Liberator (#153)

(Lib)Those threads with 'Vermin Exterminator' are gone and unable to review.

(Stone)No they are not. I did a name change. I changed Vermin Exterminator into Yukon. His posts now saw from Yukon. But if you notice the to Vermin Exterminator is still there.

You need to direct that at Liberator, Stone. He was the one that said "Those threads with 'Vermin Exterminator' are gone and unable to review. "

I was the one that pointed out to him that this was not the case by giving him a link to it.

And the sheep will bleat their submission,
Seeing the others as fools,
Not knowing nor even caring,
They've become no more than tools.

Burma Shave.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2011-04-14   22:23:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#171. To: A K A Stone, We The People (#159)

What issues do you disagree with Yukon on?

He's a fascist-Statist apparatchik, a nasty robotic brownshirt, and delusional. He would kill the 1st Amendment.

Here's a post by yukie (and even tagline) that says quite a bit:

I'll fight evil, injustice and CT freaks until I'm physically unable.

Actually, I feel sorry for you, Rudgear. Being hatched on a fencepost would probably make anyone a retarded POS!.

yukon posted on 2011-04-13 19:02:20 ET

In his delusional mind he's a Super Hero! To the death no less! Now if that post doesn't scream, "I NEED A PSYCHIATRIST!!", nothing does.

I think Yukon recognizes Obama is a threat to our country.

Yes, but he failed to see the threat Dubya Bush was.

What do you think of Obama?

He's a traitor.

I think you two actually agree on more issues then you disagree on.

I don't think so. His degree of fascism would surprise you.

I think the biggest thing you disagree with him on is the war on terror stuff. I also disagree with him on those things.

That isn't all, Stone; You don't have a complete profile on him because "iblewafartsky" rarely posted anything other than ad hominums as posts. You can't "exchange" any idea or debate with him. He places blame for the trade imbalance with China on the American consumer instead of with the goobermint who sold American industry out for slave-labor countries. Frankly, I believe he's got serious emotional problems.

#1. To: Goldi-Lox (#0) I used the wrong link. yukon posted on 2011-03-27 1:40:47 ET

Liberator  posted on  2011-04-14   22:24:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#172. To: Wood_Chopper, A K A Stone (#170)

You need to direct that at Liberator, Stone. He was the one that said "Those threads with 'Vermin Exterminator' are gone and unable to review. "

I was the one that pointed out to him that this was not the case by giving him a link to it.

Check...thanks.

#1. To: Goldi-Lox (#0) I used the wrong link. yukon posted on 2011-03-27 1:40:47 ET

Liberator  posted on  2011-04-14   22:24:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#173. To: A K A Stone (#160)

I don't do LP. Who is this Gatlin?

Sir - Gatlin here ... reporting for duty - SIR

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2011-04-14   22:26:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#174. To: A K A Stone (#168)

neglected to ping you when I posted it.

And the sheep will bleat their submission,
Seeing the others as fools,
Not knowing nor even caring,
They've become no more than tools.

Burma Shave.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2011-04-14   22:27:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#175. To: Tater, Murron (#169)

The deal [aka "GAME"] was planned and executed with military precision carried through with quality, condition and fact of being marked by and adapted for accuracy to an extreme exactness with great exacting technical refinement in specific measured calculations to microscopic specifications … or in the vernacular of peons which you best understand, it was a f**cking success!

It was? Then why aren't several posters buying what you've been peddling? Yeah, a few bought the horse and pony show...

We recognized it as a game, sneered at the distractions, and...VOILA! After all the hocus-pocus and voodoo dancing, OJ Yu-Klown is STILL a gay canary in the coal mine..er I mean closet! Lol....

#1. To: Goldi-Lox (#0) I used the wrong link. yukon posted on 2011-03-27 1:40:47 ET

Liberator  posted on  2011-04-14   22:30:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#176. To: Tater (#173)

Sir - Gatlin here ... reporting for duty - SIR

The latrines need refreshing...sir. Have you your toothbrush?

#1. To: Goldi-Lox (#0) I used the wrong link. yukon posted on 2011-03-27 1:40:47 ET

Liberator  posted on  2011-04-14   22:31:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#177. To: Tater (#169) (Edited)

The first priority of this joint air/naval operation was to support our wingman and shipmate...

it was a f**cking success!

Thank you Major.

Now hear this, you miserable peasants: (excluding your fine host).

We are very humble in our thanks.

It would not have been possible to succeed without the complete and utter ignorance, duplicity and dumber than rocks perps' constant proof that survival of the fittest does not always work its way.

Major, please attend to some very personal attacks on your person.

harrowup  posted on  2011-04-14   22:33:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#178. To: Wood_Chopper, A K A Stone (#167)

The old Gatlin had a flawless reputation.

All I know is that the new Gatlin, IMHO, ain't the old Gatlin.

The old Gatlin is one day older today (Cue for you to now say: Happy Birthday, Sir) ... therefore it is properly benefitting for you to now say: The older Gatlin with his flawless reputation is still the older Gatlin but now in combat theater BDUs awaiting the clarion call to arms 24/7/365 to support my teammates whenever anyone attacks their character and reputation maliciously and with malice of forethought.

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2011-04-14   22:37:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#179. To: All (#177)

see 177

harrowup  posted on  2011-04-14   22:37:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#180. To: A K A Stone (#177)

Here's your ring-side seat. You think these two have your site's best interest at heart?

And the sheep will bleat their submission,
Seeing the others as fools,
Not knowing nor even caring,
They've become no more than tools.

Burma Shave.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2011-04-14   22:37:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#181. To: Liberator (#175)

Then why aren't several posters buying what you've been peddling

Long story short, peanut? Your ego.

harrowup  posted on  2011-04-14   22:39:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#182. To: Wood_Chopper, A K A Stone (#180)

You think these two have your site's best interest at heart?

The value of any site is improved with the destruction of bullies and frauds.

I don't know if you are a fraud, but you are a bully.

harrowup  posted on  2011-04-14   22:41:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#183. To: Tater (#169)

The first priority of this joint air/naval operation was to support our wingman and shipmate, the success of this revolutionized attack was attributed to the addition of a third dimension to the "traditional" forum warfare theater.

The deal was planned and executed with military precision carried through with quality, condition and fact of being marked by and adapted for accuracy to an extreme exactness with great exacting technical refinement in specific measured calculations to microscopic specifications … or in the vernacular of peons which you best understand, it was a f**cking success!

Hawk, “you have the Flag” … Sir!

****************************************

No Tater/Gatlin, you lose, you have zip, zilch, nada credibility left, not that it would matter a whole hell of a lot to you, my first impression of you was right. From now on I'll stick to my gut instinct, it's never let me down!~ Murron

***************************************

#224. To: Gatlin, Fred Mertz (#216)

Fred Mertz: "Duty carries its burdens".

Gatlin: "That weight is about to be lifted from your shoulders" ...

"Gatlin, you have got to be the most boring, fatheaded, narcissistic, bipolar, pre- menopausal, bloviating windbag to ever darkin libertypost. What few remain here at LP would attack your intellect but even they know you can't attack something that doesn't exist. I suppose everyone is entitled to be stupid, but so far, for a person giggling and bragging about having a soon to be possition as moderator/owner, you have gone the farthest to abuse that privilege. Who the hell do you think you're trying to impress, or scare, real people? What people? The only damn person who would give a damn about your threats are people who don't have a life, low self-esteem, no self respect, and actually think LP is the center of their universe.

God! It's going to be so entertaining watching you get bitch slapped all over the place! You are such a pisher....ROTFLMAOAY!!!"

Murron posted on 2011-03-31

Murron  posted on  2011-04-14   22:44:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#184. To: Liberator, harrowup, A K A Stone (#176)

The latrines need refreshing...sir. Have you your toothbrush?

While I worked my way up the Enlisted Ranks and the Non-Commissioned Officer ranks to Technical Sergeant in four years eleven months, I PROUDLY did latrine duty just as I PROUDLY performed any and all duties assigned to me … as well as the many I volunteered for.

However you civilian dipshit, COMMISSIONED OFFICERS serve in the military in a leadership capacity. As I worked my way up to Major (SAC Spot Promotion) in six years ... I PROUDLY performed the duties of an Officer and Gentleman, as declared by the Congress of the United States of America.

Now ... you go to that latrine you refer to and just EAT SHIT!

Major Gatlin/Tater

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2011-04-14   22:47:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#185. To: Murron, A K A Stone, Tater (#183)

You do realize that Gatlin (Tater) was 'gaming' the play? We all were goofing on anyone who continued the fraud begun by bucky.

We never took personal offense at any attack on our 'attitudes' since we wanted those reactions to boil over...and they did...and the bullies are gone from LP.

harrowup  posted on  2011-04-14   22:50:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#186. To: Murron (#183)

God! It's going to be so entertaining watching you get bitch slapped all over the place! You are such a pisher....ROTFLMAOAY!!!"

And I suppose you are the bitch who would just love to do the bitch slapping. Well, then have at it ... bitch, give it your best shot.

Oh no ... you tried that many times some years ago with absolutely NO success.

Oh well, just you dream on there, lil darlin' ... DREAM ON!

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2011-04-14   22:52:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#187. To: harrowup, Murron, A K A Stone, Mel_Living (#185)

You do realize that Gatlin (Tater) was 'gaming' the play?

And I will"game" the play anytime a friend "comes under fire" (damn, I hate using that term) ... Mel will stand tall with me to verify that.

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2011-04-14   22:54:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#188. To: harrowup (#181)

Long story short, peanut? Your ego.

I'll save you the trouble. I don't know if you'd gotten the memo but....we're ALL playing a game here, Hank. Nonetheless - Yu-Klown shall always be a Humpty-Dumpty who had a great fall. All the kings horses and men can't stop the closet scene from being replayed forever.

#1. To: Goldi-Lox (#0) I used the wrong link. yukon posted on 2011-03-27 1:40:47 ET

Liberator  posted on  2011-04-14   22:55:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#189. To: Tater (#186)

Oh well, just you dream on there, lil darlin' ... DREAM ON!

Now remember what we laid out in the ops.

They were going to really hate you because you have a history with them of being one of them.

Me? They only remember me as a kindly old soul with only their best interest at heart and would be so stunned by my brutality that they would think I had been exchanged by another of bucky's creations.

harrowup  posted on  2011-04-14   22:57:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#190. To: harrowup (#185)

So you are a troll in the klauoughn posse mold, n'est ce pas?

Actually, I feel sorry for you, yu-klown. Growing up with Sally as a mother would probably turn anyone queer.

Rudgear  posted on  2011-04-14   22:57:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#191. To: harrowup, Wood_Chopper, A K A Stone (#182)

The value of any site is improved with the destruction of bullies and frauds.

LOL - yet another forum "Super Hero" projecting? Does Perry White know you're working OT?

Just, wow.

#1. To: Goldi-Lox (#0) I used the wrong link. yukon posted on 2011-03-27 1:40:47 ET

Liberator  posted on  2011-04-14   22:58:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#192. To: harrowup, A K A Stone (#185) (Edited)

You do realize that Gatlin (Tater) was 'gaming' the play? We all were goofing on anyone who continued the fraud begun by bucky.

We never took personal offense at any attack on our 'attitudes' since we wanted those reactions to boil over...and they did...and the bullies are gone from LP.

They're here to clean up LF Stone, of ANYONE who doesn't bow to yukon, and them. They're here on a mission. Not to post. Not to discuss. But to "clean up your website"

There it is, served up on a platter, by harrowup.

What are you gonna do now?

And the sheep will bleat their submission,
Seeing the others as fools,
Not knowing nor even caring,
They've become no more than tools.

Burma Shave.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2011-04-14   22:59:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#193. To: Murron (#183)

No Tater/Gatlin, you lose, you have zip, zilch, nada credibility left, not that it would matter a whole hell of a lot to you, my first impression of you was right. From now on I'll stick to my gut instinct, it's never let me down!~ Murron

God! It's going to be so entertaining watching you get bitch slapped all over

Nailed.

;-)

#1. To: Goldi-Lox (#0) I used the wrong link. yukon posted on 2011-03-27 1:40:47 ET

Liberator  posted on  2011-04-14   22:59:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#194. To: harrowup (#185)

You do realize that Gatlin (Tater) was 'gaming' the play? We all were goofing on anyone who continued the fraud begun by bucky.

We never took personal offense at any attack on our 'attitudes' since we wanted those reactions to boil over...and they did...and the bullies are gone from LP.

I don't like being involved in 'games' I know nothing about, being used like pawn, I don't give a damn how important you think they may be. You mess with a person emotions and trust, don't whine if they don't play into your games anymore, people, even cyber people, are not pawns to be made fools of.

Murron  posted on  2011-04-14   22:59:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#195. To: Liberator (#188)

You've lost peanut. Get over it. No one will remember let alone care.

harrowup  posted on  2011-04-14   23:00:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#196. To: Tater, harrowup, A K A Stone (#184)

Now ... you go to that latrine you refer to and just EAT SHIT!

Help me a bit...I'm leafing through my Bible and do....NOT see this verse of Scripture.

Have you bookmarked it?

#1. To: Goldi-Lox (#0) I used the wrong link. yukon posted on 2011-03-27 1:40:47 ET

Liberator  posted on  2011-04-14   23:01:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#197. To: Murron (#194)

Mornin' sunshine.

Sorry about my rude wake-up call.

And the sheep will bleat their submission,
Seeing the others as fools,
Not knowing nor even caring,
They've become no more than tools.

Burma Shave.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2011-04-14   23:04:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#198. To: Murron (#194)

You mess with a person emotions and trust, don't whine if they don't play into your games anymore, people, even cyber people, are not pawns to be made fools of.

Well, as long as you have accused me of whining, here goes.

None of the perps here have had the common decency here to apologize for the fraud perpetrated by bucky and his pimps and whores against yukon and if that doesn't bother you then I'm not too worried about your 'feelings'.

harrowup  posted on  2011-04-14   23:05:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#199. To: Wood_Chopper (#197)

Mornin' sunshine.

Sorry about my rude wake-up call.

LOL...I really should get back to my other hideout, it's pleasant there and issues are discussed, and my BP is doesn't rise so high....&;-)

Murron  posted on  2011-04-14   23:08:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#200. To: Wood_Chopper, A K A Stone, harrowup, yukon, Murron (#180)

Here's your ring-side seat. You think these two have your site's best interest at heart?

Wood_Chopper, Stone needs no righside seat ... he understood what went on here these past two weeks. It is you who needs to now take a ringside seat ... take notes and learn. What you saw in action here on LF these past two weeks was loyalty between friends that meant many things. For instance, Hawk (harrowup) and I saw many, many people bullying our friend … so we made the supreme decision to stand up for him at all costs!

When your friend is in a tough situation, you should always be there to help him through it … whatever it may be and whatever it may take. You should NEVER turn your back on your friend! You must never ditch your friend and defend him against all attacks. Friends should always contribute FULL SUPPORT to their friends

The best way to sum it up is to say: FRIENDS STAY TOGETHER THROUGH THICK AND THIN AND SUPPORT EACH OTHER!

Now the test:

List for me the screen names of all your “friends” who would do for you what Hawk and I did for yukon/Ibluafartsky these past two weeks.

I will wait …

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2011-04-14   23:09:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#201. To: Murron (#199)

LOL...I really should get back to my other hideout, it's pleasant there and issues are discussed, and my BP is doesn't rise so high....&;-)

Nah! Stick around. Their scam's falling apart. Going to be enjoyable to watch.

harrowup's attacking you now.

And the sheep will bleat their submission,
Seeing the others as fools,
Not knowing nor even caring,
They've become no more than tools.

Burma Shave.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2011-04-14   23:12:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#202. To: harrowup, Murron, A K A Stone, We The People, Hondo68, Rudgear, Bill D Berger, LP Bullies (#185)

You do realize that Gatlin (Tater) was 'gaming' the play? We all were goofing on anyone who continued the fraud begun by bucky.

Hey, that was really good "goofing" - especially the part where Goldi's "death" was staged at LP and Gatlin pretended to be desperately trying to reach her.

We never took personal offense at any attack on our 'attitudes' since we wanted those reactions to boil over...and they did...and the bullies are gone from LP.

You twits are trying to claim you conspired as catalysts that exterminated LP of (Wha..HUH?) so-called "bullies"? You mean your actions were about nothing other than sabotaging a forum of certain posters?

I accept your admission. You stand indicted. As well as Gatlin/Tater. And Ibluafartsky/yukon.

#1. To: Goldi-Lox (#0) I used the wrong link. yukon posted on 2011-03-27 1:40:47 ET

Liberator  posted on  2011-04-14   23:12:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#203. To: Wood_Chopper (#201)

harrowup's attacking you now.

I didn't feel a thing! &;-)

Murron  posted on  2011-04-14   23:15:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#204. To: Wood_Chopper (#201)

scam

The only scam going on was bucky's theft of a name or two.

You were either part of the scam or duped.

No matter. It's over.

harrowup  posted on  2011-04-14   23:15:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#205. To: Liberator, Murron, A K A Stone, harrowup, yukon (#196)

Help me a bit...I'm leafing through my Bible and do....NOT see this verse of Scripture.

Have you bookmarked it?

It is time for you to finally stand up, be a man ... and do your own fucking work.

I have spoon fed you long enough ...

You look up whatever God Damn thing you need to ... after you find it, then smear lubricant over it and shove it up your ass hole.

On second thought, I should not have said that ... forget the lubricant.

You asshole … you were WRONG about yukon, and you don’t have the balls to admit it and APOLOGIZE to yukon.

As many times that Murron and I have been head to head, I can testify that Murron has the balls to do things you will not … maybe Murron will loan you one of her balls.

Yea, I’m pissed that you assholes treated yukon as you did and I am especially PISSED that you now go about as if you did absolutely NOTHING wrong!

(Hawk, Sir, your standing order to me was to defend against all attacks. Does that order still stand? If so, I will CARRY ON ... SIR)!

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2011-04-14   23:18:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#206. To: Murron (#203)

I didn't feel a thing! &;-)

Nor should you have. My intent was to enlighten you, not to frighten. Truth hurts sometimes. Except your comments about Gatlin I agree with your input.

harrowup  posted on  2011-04-14   23:18:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#207. To: Liberator, A K A Stone, harrowup, yukon (#202)

You STILL just DON"T get it ... YOU IGNORANT ASSHOLE, and you probably never will!

That's your problem and the problem of those who associate with you.

Live WITH it!

OriginalGatlin  posted on  2011-04-14   23:21:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#208. To: Tater (#205)

Yea, I’m pissed that you assholes treated yukon as you did and I am especially PISSED that you now go about as if you did absolutely NOTHING wrong!

I second that and we will now stand down and allow the enemy to care for their mentally sick and injured.

harrowup  posted on  2011-04-14   23:22:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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