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Title: Poverty Immigrating to America’s Welfare State
Source: Heritage
URL Source: http://blog.heritage.org/2011/04/05 ... icas-welfare-state/#more-56419
Published: Apr 6, 2011
Author: Heritage
Post Date: 2011-04-06 20:47:30 by CZ82
Keywords: None
Views: 9677
Comments: 28

Poverty Immigrating to America’s Welfare State

Posted April 5th, 2011

Welfare spending is projected to skyrocket over the next 10 years, costing taxpayers $10.3 trillion and driving the United States toward bankruptcy. To make matters worse, a new report shows that the United States is seeing large percentage of its immigrant population exacting a costly toll on the welfare roles. According to Steven A. Camarota of the Center for Immigration Studies:

In 2009 (based on data collected in 2010), 57 percent of households headed by an immigrant (legal and illegal) with children (under 18) used at least one welfare program, compared to 39 percent for native households with children. Camarota also notes that low education among immigrant-headed households is part of the problem:

Of households headed by an immigrant who has not graduated high school, 80 percent access the welfare system, compared to 25 percent for those headed by an immigrant who has at least a bachelor’s degree.

With means-tested welfare spending approaching $1 trillion per year and 15 percent ($100 billion per year) of total spending going to households headed by immigrants with high school degrees or less, limiting low-skill immigration is one way to tackle the problem. The Heritage Foundation’s Katherine Bradley and Robert Rector write:

Government policy should limit future immigration to those who will be net fiscal contributors, paying more in taxes than they receive in benefits. The legal immigration system should not encourage immigration of low-skill immigrants who would increase poverty in the nation and impose vast new costs on already overburdened taxpayers.

In addition, the government should not provide amnesty or “earned citizenship” to illegal immigrants, which would provide illegal immigrants with full access to the U.S. welfare system. Of the 11 million to 12 million illegal immigrants in the U.S., at least 50 percent lack a high school degree. Giving this population amnesty and access to welfare would lead to a staggering increase in future welfare costs.

Growth in welfare spending is already on an untenable path; importing poverty, failing to reform the system, and allowing for the unlimited growth of welfare entitlements is a recipe for failure.


Poster Comment:

So why are we allowing illegal aliens access to the Welfare system in the first place????? Could it be because it means more votes for the Libtards????? Or is it because of the "EMPATHY" the Libtards "Supposedly" have?????

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#1. To: CZ82 (#0)

Government policy should limit future immigration to those who will be net fiscal contributors, paying more in taxes than they receive in benefits. The legal immigration system should not encourage immigration of low-skill immigrants who would increase poverty in the nation and impose vast new costs on already overburdened taxpayers.

But they do the work Americans won't do.

You have the courage to tell the masses what no politician told them: you are inferior and all the improvements in your conditions which you simply take for granted you owe to the efforts of men who are better than you. Ludwig von Mises in a letter to Ayn Rand

lucysmom  posted on  2011-04-06   20:55:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: CZ82, *The Two Parties ARE the Same* (#0)

the Libtards

As Senator Juan McAmnesty explained, we need "guest workers" to keep the lettuce prices down. He couldn't find anyone to pick lettuce in AZ for $50 an hour. He wants to get em on "the path to citizenship" too.

He picked up these swell ideas from president Jorge W. Arbusto.

Stupid libtards!


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

I recall a re-run of MASH I saw where this uber right winger named Colonel Flagg...
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Hondo68  posted on  2011-04-06   21:12:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: lucysmom (#1)

But they do the work Americans won't do

A lot of Americans are nothing but a bunch of spoiled little brats, still living with mommy and daddy at age 30 or older..... or are getting by on all the the "moocher" government programs available..... If these "babies" were told to get off their ass and go get a job, or their freebies will stop in 6 months, then that wouldn't be a problem.... But no we can't do that they're voters, don't want to piss them off.....

Nobody is willing to do the right thing anymore and that's why this country is about to be flushed down the toilet..... It's way too easy to be a POS nowadays and get away with it..... just vote Libtard......

"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning

CZ82  posted on  2011-04-06   22:00:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: CZ82 (#3)

A lot of Americans are nothing but a bunch of spoiled little brats, still living with mommy and daddy at age 30 or older..... or are getting by on all the the "moocher" government programs available..... If these "babies" were told to get off their ass and go get a job, or their freebies will stop in 6 months, then that wouldn't be a problem.... But no we can't do that they're voters, don't want to piss them off.....

Nobody is willing to do the right thing anymore and that's why this country is about to be flushed down the toilet..... It's way too easy to be a POS nowadays and get away with it..... just vote Libtard......

EXCELLENT assessment.

Liberator  posted on  2011-04-06   22:05:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Liberator (#4)

EXCELLENT assessment.

Arkadasim tesekkür ederim.....

"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning

CZ82  posted on  2011-04-06   22:17:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: lucysmom (#1)

But they do the work Americans won't do.

That is total bullshit.

Name some jobs the illegals do that Americans wont do.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-04-06   22:37:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: CZ82 (#3)

Nobody is willing to do the right thing anymore and that's why this country is about to be flushed down the toilet..... It's way too easy to be a POS nowadays and get away with it..... just vote Libtard......

Three cheers for Obama! There is now a job for everyone who wants to work - unemployment resolved.

You have the courage to tell the masses what no politician told them: you are inferior and all the improvements in your conditions which you simply take for granted you owe to the efforts of men who are better than you. Ludwig von Mises in a letter to Ayn Rand

lucysmom  posted on  2011-04-06   22:38:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: A K A Stone (#6)

That is total bullshit. Name some jobs the illegals do that Americans wont do.

Friends of my husband who own construction companies used to send their crews to Florida for jobs, now the men are all out of work because illegals were hire, they're everywhere.

Murron  posted on  2011-04-06   22:41:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: hondo68 (#2)

As Senator Juan McAmnesty explained, we need "guest workers" to keep the lettuce prices down. He couldn't find anyone to pick lettuce in AZ for $50 an hour. He wants to get em on "the path to citizenship" too.

As I recall, he had a lot of takers willing to pick lettuce at 50 bucks an hour.

You have the courage to tell the masses what no politician told them: you are inferior and all the improvements in your conditions which you simply take for granted you owe to the efforts of men who are better than you. Ludwig von Mises in a letter to Ayn Rand

lucysmom  posted on  2011-04-06   22:44:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Murron (#8) (Edited)

Friends of my husband who own construction companies used to send their crews to Florida for jobs, now the men are all out of work because illegals were hire, they're everywhere.

Illegals replaced your husband's workers because they work for less, its a free market thing.

You have the courage to tell the masses what no politician told them: you are inferior and all the improvements in your conditions which you simply take for granted you owe to the efforts of men who are better than you. Ludwig von Mises in a letter to Ayn Rand

lucysmom  posted on  2011-04-06   22:51:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: lucysmom (#1)

But they do the work Americans won't do.

Loo-see - who was "doing the work Americans won't do" before the illegal Mexican invasion?

Liberator  posted on  2011-04-06   22:55:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: lucysmom, Murron (#10)

Illegals replaced your husband's workers because they work for less, its a free market thing.

What about "illegal invaders" don't you understand? Or liability? What about the "border enforcement thing"? What about the "illegal parasite thing"?

You know NOTHING about the "free market" - never have, Loo-Loo.

Liberator  posted on  2011-04-06   22:59:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Liberator (#11)

Loo-see - who was "doing the work Americans won't do" before the illegal Mexican invasion?

My grandparents and parents - but those jobs paid better back then.

You have the courage to tell the masses what no politician told them: you are inferior and all the improvements in your conditions which you simply take for granted you owe to the efforts of men who are better than you. Ludwig von Mises in a letter to Ayn Rand

lucysmom  posted on  2011-04-06   23:02:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: lucysmom (#13)

My grandparents and parents - but those jobs paid better back then.

Right...But because those wages have fallen doesn't mean Americans won't take those jobs...

The problem, Loo, is a welfare state that pays people more money thru unemployment insurance NOT to work, AND essentially gives them a TWO year paid vacation.

Liberator  posted on  2011-04-06   23:05:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: CZ82 (#5)

Arkadasim tesekkür ederim.....

Never touch the stuff.

Liberator  posted on  2011-04-06   23:06:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Liberator (#12)

What about the "border enforcement thing"?

Cheap labor employers invest in lobbyists to convince politicians to wink at immigration laws. Its a money is free speech thing.

You have the courage to tell the masses what no politician told them: you are inferior and all the improvements in your conditions which you simply take for granted you owe to the efforts of men who are better than you. Ludwig von Mises in a letter to Ayn Rand

lucysmom  posted on  2011-04-06   23:07:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Liberator (#14)

Right...But because those wages have fallen doesn't mean Americans won't take those jobs...

The problem, Loo, is a welfare state that pays people more money thru unemployment insurance NOT to work, AND essentially gives them a TWO year paid vacation.

Then maybe you should stop telling them that their labor is worth less pay than it takes to support them.

You have the courage to tell the masses what no politician told them: you are inferior and all the improvements in your conditions which you simply take for granted you owe to the efforts of men who are better than you. Ludwig von Mises in a letter to Ayn Rand

lucysmom  posted on  2011-04-06   23:11:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: lucysmom (#16)

Cheap labor employers invest in lobbyists to convince politicians to wink at immigration laws. Its a money is free speech thing.

There's no doubt we are sold out to lobbyists. Keep in mind though that fedgov immigration laws are NOT enforced while bribery is perfectly acceptable. All DC is is one giant wink-a-thon - that is until they get into the house chambers. Then it becomes a middle-finger-a-thon.

Liberator  posted on  2011-04-06   23:13:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: lucysmom (#17)

Maybe you should stop telling them that their labor is worth less pay than it takes to support them.

Nope. That is NOT the correct equation; Unemployment subsidies are ridiculously and artificially high. This is not only patently unfair to those who work, but it encourages laziness and sloth, and de-motivates those who might normally work instead.

Liberator  posted on  2011-04-06   23:16:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Liberator (#19)

Unemployment subsidies are ridiculously and artificially high. This is not only patently unfair to those who work, but it encourages laziness and sloth, and de-motivates those who might normally work instead.

So then there are plenty of jobs out there. Obama's economic policies have been a success - all that's left to do is end unemployment benefits.

You have the courage to tell the masses what no politician told them: you are inferior and all the improvements in your conditions which you simply take for granted you owe to the efforts of men who are better than you. Ludwig von Mises in a letter to Ayn Rand

lucysmom  posted on  2011-04-06   23:42:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: lucysmom (#20)

LM...Are you ever going to answer 6?

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-04-06   23:44:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: A K A Stone (#21)

LM...Are you ever going to answer 6?

I kinda thought I had though I didn't ping you.

I was being sarcastic. My American grandparents and parents did the work cheap labor employers claim Americans won't do. Those jobs back then paid well enough back then to allow them to enter the middle class. Their hard work paid for a decent life.

Some here seem to think my family was paid too much for their labor. (My dad's cousin died building the Golden Gate Bridge)

You have the courage to tell the masses what no politician told them: you are inferior and all the improvements in your conditions which you simply take for granted you owe to the efforts of men who are better than you. Ludwig von Mises in a letter to Ayn Rand

lucysmom  posted on  2011-04-06   23:55:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: lucysmom (#22)

Ok LM. I was ready to pounce on your examples.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-04-06   23:58:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Liberator (#15)

Arkadasim tesekkür ederim.....

Never touch the stuff.

You don't have to, it means thank you...

"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning

CZ82  posted on  2011-04-07   7:06:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: lucysmom (#20)

So then there are plenty of jobs out there.

Yep, the ones the illegal aliens are doing...... Ship them back home and 3-4 million jobs would appear overnight......

The first 10 years I was in the military I was eligible for food stamps, never took a damn one of them.... the only thing I would let the wife do was get the WIC cheese, just because the kids loved it so much.... they always would eat a grilled cheese sandwich when everything else failed.... so hey why not....

My middle daughter who just recently had a baby has actually had local government people calling her on the phone "telling" her she has been signed up for all of these freebies...... You know what she says to them... "I didn't call you asking for it, so stick it where the sun don't shine"..... good girl..

What I'm saying is there are a lot of people on government handout programs when they really don't need to be. And it is the fault of both the person and the government...... If you go get a job and try to be productive we'll help you, but if you just want to be a mooch then the aid will eventually stop..... In essence do the right thing for yourself and your family, quit being a POS......

"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning

CZ82  posted on  2011-04-07   7:24:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Liberator (#12)

Border enforcement is congruent to a free flow of goods, services and labor exactly how again? Why should the labot pool be subject to regulation?

Apparently not.
Inarticulate Insights,
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war  posted on  2011-04-07   7:33:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: A K A Stone (#6)

She was quoting every politician who argues for open borders or "guest" worker programs...

Apparently not.
Inarticulate Insights,
By Boofer

war  posted on  2011-04-07   7:34:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Liberator (#19)

Nope. That is NOT the correct equation; Unemployment subsidies are ridiculously and artificially high. This is not only patently unfair to those who work, but it encourages laziness and sloth, and de-motivates those who might normally work instead.

The exact same thing goes on in England right now......

"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning

CZ82  posted on  2011-04-08   6:50:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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