I moved north to escape the hot weather. I guess I'm just wearing out. When I walk my knees make noise. LOL! I've got too many ties to the north. This is home for me.
yukon posted on 2011-04-01 14:41:23 ET Reply Trace
#9. To: buckeroo. war, HAPPY2BME-ONLF, badeye, Ibluafartsky (#7)
So, if "yukon" isn't gay and was hacked, what happened to "Ibluafartsky?"
Here's a goody I found from the archives here.
#21. To: HAPPY2BME-ONLF (#19) (Edited) Ibluafartsky is his name here. I guess that Ibluamaddog was already taken... #67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace war posted on 2010-05-27 22:38:12 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#22. To: war (#21) Ibluafartsky is his name here. Now where's the fun in that? Skip Intro posted on 2010-05-27 22:39:38 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#23. To: war (#21) Ibluafartsky is his name here. =============================== He's using his Bush press club handle openly? Very bold indeed. HAPPY2BME-ONLF posted on 2010-05-27 22:40:28 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
The gay canary is getting new hi-tech FAG++ knees, and is flying south for the winter to Nurse Ratched's pad.
Bwaaahaa!
But...but...wait:
"WE WUZ HACKED!!!!"
Yukon didn't really eff-up and get caught A SECOND TIME posting Gay Porno. And admitting who and what he is - a nutless, guttless gay CT!!
The Queer Canary in the coalmine was BUSTED. His, Nurse Goldi's, and Gatlin-the-RAT CT story isn't working...(Oh that's right! The people who ridicule "Conspiracies" now ask everyone to accept theirs.
Didn't you just love the cover story he, Goldi, and RAT-Gatlin hatched?
"WE WUZ HACKED!!"
there were people on yukon's coming out thread who predicted they were going to cook up a story before it happened.
no one other than yukon's butt buddies gatlin-harrowup-22rifle and that ilk believe it. even they probably don't but are happy to pretend they do to provide cover fire.
Didn't you just love the cover story he, Goldi, and RAT-Gatlin hatched?
"WE WUZ HACKED!!"
Many either just didn't see it, or didn't want to believe sally planned this whole scheme, suspending her e-mail address so no one can contact her, planting the idea of her own possible death (how sick is that), claims her site was hacked, the yukon fiasco, personally watching this, I didn't a damn either way but there were some who actually cared if she were dead, actually concerned about her, and what did the bitch do? Instead of politely thanking them for their concern, she pops in playing the part of hero, bans the disruptors gatlin, harrowup..etc, wipes out threads, then starts a BEGATHON thread, playing on the sympathies of those who cared about her, and those grateful she took out the trash!
OH! BTW lib, she told me herself she banned gatlin and harrowup but they're still posting. Senility is working overtime on that lying hag, but the silliest part is watching those around her fall for her BS hoaxes, and she isn't even any good at them. After watching her antics, and the mess hall fights of her toadies, the worst thing she could call me was 'rude', she knew I had her number!...lol
He is now claiming that his password was changed and he was locked out of his account. If you read the responses from Yukon in that thread you can tell it is him and he ain't denying anything.
Many either just didn't see it, or didn't want to believe sally planned this whole scheme, suspending her e-mail address so no one can contact her, planting the idea of her own possible death (how sick is that), claims her site was hacked, the yukon fiasco, personally watching this, I didn't a damn either way but there were some who actually cared if she were dead, actually concerned about her, and what did the bitch do? Instead of politely thanking them for their concern, she pops in playing the part of hero, bans the disruptors gatlin, harrowup..etc, wipes out threads, then starts a BEGATHON thread, playing on the sympathies of those who cared about her, and those grateful she took out the trash!
Best part...she's claiming my address was hacked and posted MY NAME AGAIN!!!
Then said for posters to "have at it"!!!
I hope her new job pays well...the legal fees will be a BITCH!
Best part...she's claiming my address was hacked and posted MY NAME AGAIN!!!
Then said for posters to "have at it"!!! I hope her new job pays well...the legal fees will be a BITCH!
I've been watching you, just read where your trying to explain to her what went on in her absence. Darlin, that woman is not playing with a full deck when she brings back the disruptors she banned and suspends you for trying to tell the truth...talk about shit for brains, she's a freaking nut case and habitual liar!
Oh yeah, almost forgot about her most important trait, she's a senior cyber whore who will sell out to the highest bidder, she is bought and paid for..OWNED!
Which explains why yu-klown turned out the way he did. Can you imagine being invited over to their house for Thanksgiving?
Well, [W.A-R.'s] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over.
Well, [W.A-R.'s] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over.
Here is another. Notice it is Yuk Yuk who gets defensive not 22Rifle
#16. To: 22rifle (#0)
At least Willie isn't screaming gay obsessed insults on every thread like some here. Willie is a credit to the forum...it's those others that should be curb stomped.
Go Willie Go.
socalV8 posted on 2011-03-03 0:02:52 ET Reply Untrace Trace
#18. To: socalV8 (#16)
At least Willie isn't screaming gay obsessed insults on every thread
Who is? Can you post the links?
yukon posted on 2011-03-03 2:18:37 ET Reply Untrace Trace
#27. To: yukon (#18)
Who is?
Yu is.
socalV8 posted on 2011-03-03 14:01:33 ET Reply Untrace Trace
#28. To: socalV8 (#27)
Yu is.
Can you post the links? Or is that beyond your capabilities?
yukon posted on 2011-03-03 14:27:05 ET Reply Untrace Trace
#32. To: yukon (#28)
Can you post the links?
Yus.
socalV8 posted on 2011-03-04 3:19:28 ET Reply Untrace Trace
#33. To: socalV8 (#32)
Yus.
Post them.
yukon posted on 2011-03-04 3:30:37 ET Reply Untrace Trace
#37. To: yukon (#33)
Post them.
Yu...they're yur posts.
willie>yu
socalV8 posted on 2011-03-05 0:24:19 ET Reply Untrace Trace
#39. To: socalV8 (#37)
Yu...they're yur posts.
willie>yu
You should remove your head from your ass. You make even less sense than SFB wee willie.
yukon posted on 2011-03-05 1:34:05 ET Reply Untrace Trace
He is now claiming that his password was changed and he was locked out of his account.
That's funny, because when he returned as I'm Back he denied being yukon. I would have thought he'd have told everybody about what had just happened to him.
Goldi is such an incredibly dumb sack of shit she's fortunate to have a site made up of posters even dumber.
When and how did she tell you herself she banned harrowup and me?
Murron to Goldi-Lox: "Gatlin and harrowup led them to believe, with stupid inuendo's and giddy threats, that you were DEAD and they were the possible new moderators/owners and planned to zap a lot of people who wouldn't tow their line"!
#99. To: Murron (#90)
I don't need to explain myself because a bunch of disruptors were here.
If this is you Gatlin, what are you doing off your throne? Don't you have some heads to chop at LP, I think I just saw one of LP's gullibles bowing to you, and you missed it! PISHER!!
See, she and her gaystapo/Statsi boys just committed libel/slander, and revealed private info...she could have extricated herself by simply looking at the provided evidence...
Instead...she publicly accused ME of being a hacker that was doing this to sue.
Um...I'm not the one who revealed private ID info...and I do be3lieve there are LEO connections that then take info and run background checks...or else they bought memberships at sites that will give info on anyone once they data-mined the info they wanted...
She accused me...then blocked me...then published MY NAME again and said for people to "have at it"!
Whoops...that makes her culpable as well...therefore lawyers will now be involved!
FWIW- Mel posted my name and address on cease and desist letter( from using her screen name), claimed it was from a real lawyer's office in AZ, and that ended up being a huge lie. The office was real, but the claim was false. Mel posted my name a number of times and Goldi never blinked an eye. I don;t even know mel's real name- so I never posted it or slandered the poster mel.
Goldi did believe the threat that I could be sued by Mel, and so she scolded me and left thread up forever.
She has a history of allowing slander. I don't know if it is personal or not.. but there is a history of it.
I am glad if Goldi is alive and well, but there is still something very odd going on over there.
FWIW- Mel posted my name and address on cease and desist letter( from using her screen name), claimed it was from a real lawyer's office in AZ, and that ended up being a huge lie. The office was real, but the claim was false. Mel posted my name a number of times and Goldi never blinked an eye. I don;t even know mel's real name- so I never posted it or slandered the poster mel.
Goldi did believe the threat that I could be sued by Mel, and so she scolded me and left thread up forever.
She has a history of allowing slander. I don't know if it is personal or not.. but there is a history of it.
I am glad if Goldi is alive and well, but there is still something very odd going on over there.
Hi there DBR...
Now, I am as guilty as yu-klown of rolling in the gutter...but I was comfortable doing that to keep that a$$hat from attacking those who were new and others less capable of debate and counter-punching...or outright ripping it a new one!
That does NOT excuse Libel/Slander...accusing criminal behavior, and revealing personal data from a member!
Wait till she's doing a RimJob snookerthon to raise $$$ to defend her cabal of punks & scumbags...
how will you obtain the needed evidence now that goldi deleted those threads? the screen caps are meaningless by themselves and without the attached ip addresses. i believe the software LP uses only allows the owner to see an ip address next to each post. and with the posts deleted forever, the ips are lost forever.
Many either just didn't see it, or didn't want to believe sally planned this whole scheme, suspending her e-mail address so no one can contact her, planting the idea of her own possible death (how sick is that), claims her site was hacked, the yukon fiasco, personally watching this, I didn't a damn either way but there were some who actually cared if she were dead, actually concerned about her, and what did the bitch do? Instead of politely thanking them for their concern, she pops in playing the part of hero, bans the disruptors gatlin, harrowup..etc, wipes out threads, then starts a BEGATHON thread, playing on the sympathies of those who cared about her, and those grateful she took out the trash!
#23. To: Liberator (#21) OH! BTW lib, she told me herself she banned gatlin and harrowup but they're still posting. Senility is working overtime on that lying hag, but the silliest part is watching those around her fall for her BS hoaxes, and she isn't even any good at them. After watching her antics, and the mess hall fights of her toadies, the worst thing she could call me was 'rude', she knew I had her number!...lol
Murron posted on 2011-04-01 18:47:21 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
Considering you like to post bogus thread wrongly insinuating people of being sexual predators, perhaps taking Sally to task for her failings is a wee bit like the pot calling the kettle black.
Not that you ever let hypocrisy ever stop you, silly girl.
That when also combined with genetic irregularities, slow early development, imperative neurocognitive and psychological mechanisms short circuited, traumatic life experiences, alienated by society because of culture depravity ... That all can most definitely be the factors which contributed to the development and progression of her present mental disorder, which unfortunately is irreversible.
Nice to exchange posts with you once again, Tater (aka: Gatlin)
I'd like for someone to try to convince me that it really isn't yukon posting on that thread.
I may be fully qualified to "try," since I was probably exchanging posts with yukon on "that" thread ... but I need you to point to specific posts. So, let's "get 'er done."
I may be fully qualified to "try," since I was probably exchanging posts with yukon on "that" thread ... but I need you to point to specific posts. So, let's "get 'er done."
Try any of the first ten or so to begin with. The style is 100% yukon.
Many either just didn't see it, or didn't want to believe sally planned this whole scheme, suspending her e-mail address so no one can contact her, planting the idea of her own possible death (how sick is that), claims her site was hacked, the yukon fiasco, personally watching this, I didn't a damn either way but there were some who actually cared if she were dead, actually concerned about her, and what did the bitch do? Instead of politely thanking them for their concern, she pops in playing the part of hero, bans the disruptors gatlin, harrowup..etc, wipes out threads, then starts a BEGATHON thread, playing on the sympathies of those who cared about her, and those grateful she took out the trash!
Interesting.
Very interesting ... But full of holes ... starting with the fact that harrowup and I were NOT banned.
As for this woman who's life is an open book on every level on the Internet; After she posted that thread with information on two men with similar names to mine which I've always been open about, I retaliated with threads from a local forum where she lashed back at people who had nasty things to say about family and friends who suffer from the meth curse.
I also archived all the threads; the ones I found and hers for later reference because with her posting in the same forum is very much like sleeping in a clutch of rattle snakes.
She better mind her Ps and Qs, as I am being more open about my warning here than I would if I were dealing with a sane human being. She never has any desire to practice politesse or stand down from a slanderous and vindictive posture. Which is fine.
As long as she understands she will get the rhetorical baseball bat across her figurative nose should she try to flank me again, she might mind her manners.
I have given her ample opportunity to stand down and back off, and she has made it plain that that approach will not work with her. Which is fine with me.
She sized me up as an easy mark, and for that mistake she got Powned. She does it again, she will find out what it is like when I don't pull my rhetorical punches.
Very interesting ... But full of holes ... starting with the fact that harrowup and I were NOT banned.
I'm aware of that. There are a good many misunderstandings from that fiasco.
The rest of it though, IS possible. I'm having a hard time buying the hacker story. Read the thread where yukon came out again. See if you have any misgivings.
And speaking of misunderstandings, would you know why I am again suspended? It doesn't make sense.
#61. To: BillNyeSG, Murron, Itzlzha, We The People, all (#19)
there were people on yukon's coming out thread who predicted they were going to cook up a story before it happened.
That was amazing, wasn't it? Almost as thought The Fix were in. Gatlin was giddy about the "secret plan."
no one other than yukon's butt buddies gatlin-harrowup-22rifle and that ilk believe it. even they probably don't but are happy to pretend they do to provide cover fire.
Yup. Once yukkie left open that browser to his favorite queer website, a plan had to be hatched...
Yukkie panicked and called Goldi on her direct line. She, stupid, and smug prick RAT-Gatlin hatched this "hacked" BS narrative and it was suggested that yukie take on a new handle - 'I'm Back.' This continue feeding into the "We wuz hacked!" mantra at LP and utter confusion of a Chinese Fire Drill. Lol, before you knew it everyone had forgotten yukie outed himself. Wasn't it awfully convenient the way Goldi hid out for a few days to make it all seem even more plausible? You'd think she's have been slightly emotional/upset about the thread subjects, but...maybe she was on Valium. HEH!
At one point, old man Colonel Bleep had to email all the other neocon-Statists to let them know Goldi was alright as they began panicking on that 'Goldi's Dead' thread (another planted thread, more cover.)
This cover was layered with, the "Ron Paulites did it!" as further cover. HEH! Now isn't it rich that those who most ridicule " nutless, gutless CTs" are now selling exactly that?? Anything to help the agonizingly heterosexually-challenges yukon who was in a pickle (yeah, pun intended.)
Look Goldi's goon must be protected like ALL statist, neocon, Log Cabin Republicans.
"And speaking of misunderstandings, would you know why I am again suspended? It doesn't make sense."
I think Tim Burton modeled the Q of H after her, quite frankly, toning her behavior down and using darker, red hair to keep her from suing him for slander.
I'm sorry - are things NOT exciting enough for you playing under yukon's boxer shorts under the table, Rat-lin? Aren't those lovely jpgs of 22RATFINK and 'I'm Back/yukie/iblewadicksky emailed you "satisfactory"?
Nice charade the last few days. We know you and Goldi covered for yukie's proclivities. You're outed as a dishonorable phoney, Colonel (lol - just how many "yukies" did you "salute" to become 'Colonel')?
"As though LF is your "home," anti-Christian warlock? Btw, are you done giving harrowup a BJ already?"
I would defend anyone's right to be Christian, and worship as they chose as I defend the U.S. Constitution, including the First Amendment, Libe. I am not Christian, but I can't expect my faith to be defended by others should I forget to do this.
As for my good friend Hawk/harrowup, I have known him for a long time, and have the utmost respect for him. If that constitutes the desire to engage in homosexual behavior to you, perhaps you have a problem here, not me. ;-)
That all can most definitely be the factors which contributed to the development and progression of her present mental disorder, which unfortunately is irreversible.
Psycho babble... watching too much Oprah and Dr Phil.
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
"Colonel (lol - just how many "yukies" did you "salute" to become 'Colonel'"
Yukon has been given ample opportunity to answer the many interrogatories as to his having any time in uniform. If you know of any enlistment or appointment as an officer he has had, let's hear it.
Old liberator sure has a fixation on his persistence of anachronistic sexual traits brought on by the slow development of libidinal stages causing him to have a magnetic persistent attachment, not only to the specific instinctual aims of his secretive sexual desires for a particular projected area of the male anatomy, but also to the entire complexness of self and object realization.
In layman terms that liberator understands, Mike ... Old liberator likes to visualize another males dick in action.
Many either just didn't see it, or didn't want to believe sally planned this whole scheme, suspending her e-mail address so no one can contact her, planting the idea of her own possible death (how sick is that), claims her site was hacked, the yukon fiasco, personally watching this...
You have pretty much nailed this, Mur. Goldi "hid" as gatlin feigned all those painfully unsuccessful attempts at reaching Dear Leader....AS the cat who ate the canary (bwaahaa!)
The entire contrived theater is sickening. How ironic is it that those who ridicule "CTs" - Yukie, gatlin, and Goldi - with help from RAT22 and h'up - are themselves selling the biggest CT ever at LP??
There were some who actually cared if she were dead, actually concerned about her, and what did the bitch do? Instead of politely thanking them for their concern, she pops in playing the part of hero, bans the disruptors gatlin, harrowup..etc, wipes out threads, then starts a BEGATHON thread, playing on the sympathies of those who cared about her, and those grateful she took out the trash!
She's sick woman. Any REAL reaction would have been as you point out, would be to THANK everyone for their respective concern over her "death." Anyone else would have been ballistic, but not her. HUH?? NO shock over yukon's gay porno posting and admission? Instead she yawned her way through the craziest threads ever at LP and was almost bored. TOTALLY unrealistic reaction. IT WAS FAKE. She's a very bad actress.
THEN she conducts a fundraiser the minute she showed up?? After a crisis?? Shades of Jim Robinson and FR. Did you see the reaction of the "crew"? ("Yes, our heroine is BACK to save us from crazy Paulites, hackers, and disrupters!!! "Goldi we're soooo glad you're back at OZ!")
I'd like for someone to try to convince me that it really isn't yukon posting on that thread.
What seems to have happened is as it went on and on without Goldi coming to his rescue and nuking the thread, you can seem him morphing into his "I'm Back" personality. He gives the game away with his post saying once the thread is deleted he'll deny everything.
It's pretty clear that he and Goldi worked out his "rehabilitation" in private.
One thing is certain; yukon is a true sociopath, like his pal Mad Dog.
"Uh, liberator is referring to me ... I do believe, Mike."
I understood. I disliked the inference that people like Yukon are common in the U.S. Armed forces. Anyone that vindictive and self serving usually get 86ed.
You have to be able to give your comrades in arms your back in a hostile situation, not be worried enough about them to consider engaging in an effective fragging action.
You have to be able to give your comrades in arms your back in a hostile situation, not be worried enough about them to consider engaing in an effective fragging action.
Yep ... but don't expect liberator to ever understand that.
OH! BTW lib, she told me herself she banned gatlin and harrowup but they're still posting. Senility is working overtime on that lying hag, but the silliest part is watching those around her fall for her BS hoaxes, and she isn't even any good at them. After watching her antics, and the mess hall fights of her toadies, the worst thing she could call me was 'rude', she knew I had her number!...lol
Good heavens, she's a nut.
Gatlin and harrowup "banned"?? Lol, yeah right. Her word is worthless. Her integrity AWOL. Her principles non-existent. I wouldn't touch that scuzzy-statist infested forum now.
This recent hoax was one for the ages. Once everyone thinks about what just happened - a gay Wag-the-Dog at LP - Gatlin, Goldi, and the gay parakeet will be regarded with even less credibility. I guess you did have her number after all, Mur.
we were too busy to do anything but laugh at your stupidity ... we are still laughing at it.
I believe you - your day is that...exciting.
You're busted, you creepy trash. I've had a half-dozen LP posters email me here and note the same thing.
You may have initially fooled some folks during your diversion, but after your concocted CT scheme (lmao) was reconstructed, the bad acting of Goldi, your school girl giddiness, and yukie's cover-story/theater falls apart.
She's a mental basket case, and actually thinks everyone around her is gullible enough to believe anything she dribbles out the side of her mouth, credibility and her are not on the same planet.
Many either just didn't see it, or didn't want to believe sally planned this whole scheme, suspending her e-mail address so no one can contact her, planting the idea of her own possible death (how sick is that), claims her site was hacked, the yukon fiasco, personally watching this, I didn't a damn either way but there were some who actually cared if she were dead, actually concerned about her, and what did the bitch do? Instead of politely thanking them for their concern, she pops in playing the part of hero, bans the disruptors gatlin, harrowup..etc, wipes out threads, then starts a BEGATHON thread, playing on the sympathies of those who cared about her, and those grateful she took out the trash!
Interesting.
Very interesting ... But full of holes ... starting with the fact that harrowup and I were NOT banned.
I'm aware that you and harrowup were not banned. What other holes do you see in this, one of many possible scenarios?
There IS one person who could have done all of this, very easily, and that is Goldi. It IS possible, and the only evidence that we have to the contrary, is the word of Goldi.
And the fact that her fundraiser comes right after, is more than a little suspect.
We both know that folks are going to believe what they want to believe ... always has been that way, and always will be.
Cold hard facts, in which I like to deal, are missing from what transpired on LP beginning last Sunday.
after careful consideration, I belive yukon's password was compromised and that it was not yukon who made the porno post. I of course cannot prove that it was not yukon, nor can anyone prove that it was yukon.
If I cannot be convinced of guilt, then I can see no guilt.
So, folks are going to believe what they want to believe ... always has been that way, and always will be.
So how do we know that liberator wasn't on the 'hit list' you bragged about?
He was.
Some folks believe Gatlin is a silent partner of LP now....
The eventual plan of the Statist neocons - including Goldi - was to thin the herd of conservatives/libertarians. This included ANY body the least critical of Israel or Jews in particular. As Goldi's goon, Yukie's "outing" provided a convenient excuse to expunge his "enemies" who predictably unloaded on the fag. "WE WUZ HACKED" then helped provide cover for yukie's gay browser "mistake."
She's a mental basket case, and actually thinks everyone around her is gullible enough to believe anything she dribbles out the side of her mouth, credibility and her are not on the same planet.
Read the thread where yukon came out again. See if you have any misgivings.
I have many, many times ... I have gone over and over everything, time and time again.
from what I can determine, yukon tried to sign in on LP on Sunday morning and he kept getting the "wrong user name / wrong password rejection." He then started to read the threads and saw what was happening ... things were set into motion behind the scene to find out what was wrong, things which I was not completely privy to ... when yukon had the time, he signed in as "I'm Back." A screen name everyone would associate with yukon.
When the "yukon" said on the thread something like "I'm tired of hiding it" ... I fell for the ploy. It wasn't until many posts later, I thought that something was not right.
We both know that folks are going to believe what they want to believe ... always has been that way, and always will be.
Cold hard facts, in which I like to deal, are missing from what transpired on LP beginning last Sunday.
after careful consideration, I belive yukon's password was compromised and that it was not yukon who made the porno post. I of course cannot prove that it was not yukon, nor can anyone prove that it was yukon.
If I cannot be convinced of guilt, then I can see no guilt.
So, folks are going to believe what they want to believe ... always has been that way, and always will be.
I just want to know the truth, no matter how pretty or ugly it may be. It's just the way I'm wired. I don't like to be fooled. I don't want to believe, I want to know.
We certainly do have an absence of facts, besides the official story put forth by Goldi.
But the mountains of evidence point to a completely different story.
from what I can determine, yukon tried to sign in on LP on Sunday morning and he kept getting the "wrong user name / wrong password rejection." He then started to read the threads and saw what was happening ... things were set into motion behind the scene to find out what was wrong, things which I was not completely privy to ... when yukon had the time, he signed in as "I'm Back." A screen name everyone would associate with yukon.
Yet no other poster admitted getting an email through to Goldi at that time.
What are the odds that he'd use the same password on two different forums? He's not a stupid man.
Well, he IS stupid, but his problem is in posting gay porno once before. "By mistake." On top of that, we are asked to believe TWO passwords were cracked??
He's also denied/lied that his ID was Ibluafartsky = yukon - UNTIL he got busted. He possesses little credibility. He's delusional and obsessive - we ALL know that. It happened to get him in trouble.
We all supposed to accept this conspiracy and NOT any other "conspiracy" - like 9/11.
I'm having some problems following this logically...
when yukon had the time, he signed in as "I'm Back." A screen name everyone would associate with yukon.
And yet he absolutely refused to identify himself as yukon. I asked him repeatedly, and he refused to answer honestly.
When the "yukon" said on the thread something like "I'm tired of hiding it" ... I fell for the ploy. It wasn't until many posts later, I thought that something was not right.
I started digging ... it was not right.
I don't doubt your honesty, but I need plainly stated, factual evidence. What did you find in your digging that told you it wasn't right?
I you would only make SOME sense, then I would respond.
Gee, Colonel Klink, it almost makes as much sense as your hit-list, thinly-veiled threats, your "secret information," your obsession (and hotline) of Goldi's whereabouts...and of course your sudden aversion to cut & paste Scripture.
There IS one person who could have done all of this, very easily, and that is Goldi. It IS possible, and the only evidence that we have to the contrary, is the word of Goldi.
The first question I would ask myself is, why would she?
The second question I would ask myself is, awhat would she have to gain?
I can find no answers to any of the two questions?
Of course, everything IS possible.
You say: "The only evidence we have to the contrary is the word of Goldi."
I say: "We have NO evidence to indict either."
All we have is pure speculation and conjectures.
So, are you moving to a "guilty until proven innocent" situation ... am I misreading here?
On top of that, we are asked to believe TWO passwords were cracked??
If we are to believe the 'official story', it's actually more than 2.
Goldi made a statement to Itzlzha, I'm not sure of the exact wording, but the jist of it was to stop screaming at 22rifle, because he didn't 'say' what he obviously said, in his post where he posted Itzlzha's real name.
Are we to believe that 22's account was hacked also?
Didn't she state that multiple accounts were hacked?
"We both know that folks are going to believe what they want to believe ... always has been that way, and always will be.
Cold hard facts, in which I like to deal, are missing from what transpired on LP beginning last Sunday.
after careful consideration, I believe yukon's password was compromised and that it was not yukon who made the porno post. I of course cannot prove that it was not yukon, nor can anyone prove that it was yukon."
Well said. I myself do not care if anyone is gay or not. It is their business, and I only get angry if someone knocks lesbians and gays if they turn out to be one themselves.
As for those who try to pin the orientation on me merely because I do not abide by picking on others for an aspect of themselves that has not been shown to make them dysfunctional as human beings or reduced their ability to function or be productive; I am not insecure enough to be bothered by such immature vindictiveness.
I've posted too long to have that thin a skin. And I pander to no one when I decide on my views on an issue.
For me, Yukon is damned by the weight of his empty calorie posts that bait, hate and lack weight of discussion of issues and insight regarding them.
A walk through the ocean of his soul would scarcely get your feet wet.
When the "yukon" said on the thread something like "I'm tired of hiding it" ... I fell for the ploy. It wasn't until many posts later, I thought that something was not right.
I started digging ... it was not right.
Very good, Shakespeare!! Excellent script!
You "thought something was not right"...so you "started digging."
And then...you started whispering to certain posters about emailing them. And inferring threats to other posters as though you wielded ZOT power.
You're nothing but female howlin. THAT is a role you are eminently suited for.
I have NO positive evidence of anything, but from what I can determine, associate and then speculate (which I DEARLY try not to do) ... someone either guessed yukons password, or used one or many of the programs on the Web to ferret it out.
While investigating and analyzing the events, someone was able to accurately guesstimate yukons original password.
If we are to believe the 'official story', it's actually more than 2.
Goldi made a statement to Itzlzha, I'm not sure of the exact wording, but the jist of it was to stop screaming at 22rifle, because he didn't 'say' what he obviously said, in his post where he posted Itzlzha's real name.
Are we to believe that 22's account was hacked also?
Didn't she state that multiple accounts were hacked?
Great observations, great points. "Multiple" accounts. But who else?? Plausible deniablity. She's setting up a defense of the...er...ID'ing problem.
Goldi is spinning and providing more BS cover than 0bama's own administration.
Btw - Did you find her reaction to her own obit a little weak?
Yet no other poster admitted getting an email through to Goldi at that time.
I don't understand ...
There was a period during which neither I nor anyone could contact Goldi.
It was only after contact was made with Goldi that explanations began to assemble and fall into place ... that was some three (?) days after the original post.
I do believe, or at least I would hope, that you know I have an open and investigative mind.
I can be convinced of anything with sufficiently firm proof.
Real funny, Col. Klink. Isn't that like putting the fox in the henhouse in charge of security?
Sorry - you convince few that you don't have a conflict of interest - especially given that you've starred in one of the lead roles in this kabuki theater.
"1) Nobody's account was hacked. Yukon had a gay porn site open when he made his post and accidentally posted it's link instead of the one he meant to.
2) Since you can't edit a new post, he was screwed. He immediately asked for help from Goldi, but she didn't show."
Years ago when I would be posting in a returning bannee account at Free Republic with a window open to my old home forum Time.com/politics, I did this more than once.
For example; I remember my panic when I posted a post to FR meant for Time.com/Politics that was particularly mocking of FR, so I posted it quickly in my 'hobbb' account at Time, and posted an oops at FR with the URL to my Time post explaining I had meant to quote that and hit 'Post' before I was done with the quote post. And I did an 'abuse' flag to explain to the moderator my 'mistake.'
No one at FR caught the discrepancies of the time stamps, and I successfully baffled them with bull poop.
It is very easy to make mistakes like Yukon did. And I know this first hand. Which is why I consider it a distinct possibility this was indeed a goof up of epic proportions.
I admit, I am evidence poor. That's why I'm asking for evidence in any form, to prove any aspect of this fiasco.
The only facts that we know, are that the threads, containing the posts in question WERE made under yukon's handle. The question is, were his accounts hacked...BOTH of them? There and here? That's hard to believe.
The most damning evidence is that he outed himself on two forums.
Then the ensuing shitstorm that followed, and Goldi's reaction. Your posts about the billing cycle, 22 also claiming to have inside info. None of it makes sense.
That's why logic points me to the most simple possibility.
What did you find in your digging that told you it wasn't right?
As I stated twice before on LP in a couplee threads, I was assigned additional duty as investigating officer for pre stage UCMJ. Often times there was no hard evidence, as is the case about which we speak.
I therefore had to take statements, listen to testimony and make recommendations. I had to do the "this could have happened - this maybe could not have happened" process over and over again until slowly pieces moulded into place.
That was the situation here.
After hearing "didn't" and with no "did" ... I came to my conclusion.
Don't forget the "Goldi is Dead" thread by a new poster. All part of the plan.
I have no doubt that phone calls were made to set this all up. It took me all of 30 seconds to find Goldi's Florida phone number. I'm sure others could do it as well.
I would defend anyone's right to be Christian, and worship as they chose as I defend the U.S. Constitution, including the First Amendment, Libe. I am not Christian, but I can't expect my faith to be defended by others should I forget to do this.
Mikey, come on. You are hostile towards Christianity.
Every graphic of yours alludes to it in one measure or another.
As I stated twice before on LP in a couplee (sic) threads, I was assigned additional duty as investigating officer for pre stage UCMJ. Often times there was no hard evidence, as is the case about which we speak.
I do believe, or at least I would hope, that you know I have an open and investigative mind.
I can be convinced of anything with sufficiently firm proof.
I do believe you to be an honest and honorable man. I think you know that.
I simply want to know the truth, no matter where it leads me. The story that we are given is just too hard to believe. Too much of it doesn't make sense.
If you lied then why should anyone believe you now?
There was fun spoofing going on.
Gatlin (me), harrowup, I'm back and I don't know who else were all having a blast pulling the agitators chains.
If you were unable to recognize that and see the teasing ... then you can of course believe I lied and I am lying now.
So, to bluntly paraphrase a scene from Gone With the Wind: "Frankly my dear sir, I don't give a damn" whether you believe me or not.
If you would like to ask me any more questions, I will try my best to answer you ... if you wish to insult me or to challenge my integrity, then to you I will say: "Good Night, Sir."
Don't forget the "Goldi is Dead" thread by a new poster. All part of the plan.
Yep. By an poster with no name, no less. How convenient. Either Goldi set it up, OR provided Admin rights to another "trusted" LPer. We can speculate who that might be, can't we?
I have no doubt that phone calls were made to set this all up.
With ya. NOT buying the supposed unavaialblity of Goldi AT ALL. Why was Gatlin so giddy as though he knew something everyone else wasn't privy to?
It took me all of 30 seconds to find Goldi's Florida phone number. I'm sure others could do it as well.
That's something, isn't it? And anyway, didn't she also claim she'd been around during most of the hoopla?
As I stated twice before on LP in a couplee threads, I was assigned additional duty as investigating officer for pre stage UCMJ. Often times there was no hard evidence, as is the case about which we speak.
I therefore had to take statements, listen to testimony and make recommendations. I had to do the "this could have happened - this maybe could not have happened" process over and over again until slowly pieces moulded into place.
That was the situation here.
After hearing "didn't" and with no "did" ... I came to my conclusion.
I understand and I respect your opinion/conclusion. If that is what you believe, then I believe you are being honest about it.
I however am still having problems. I believe that we may not know the truth for awhile, if ever. I do believe that the truth always come out, eventually. The question is, will I be there to witness it.
I strongly feel that if I were to be deeply hostile toward Christianity, I would resemble the mindset I would be trying to slam. I have a great many dear friends who are Christian, and would stand up for them against anyone who tried to hurt their right to be who they are and to worship in the faith they call home.
Now, I do indeed have criticism of Christianity, but that is a whole different thing. I also as the oldest of six have the responsibility to preserve and protect the family Bible of my father, Daniel A. McCarthy, and I take that very seriously.
I was made to go to Mass every Sunday until I was 14, and went through the Confirmation ceremony in the Catholic Church. I have read the Bible and taken study courses on it, as well as the Koran. I am currently reading 'Opening the Tanya,' Discovering the Moral and Mystical teachings of a classic work of Kabbalah, by Rabbi Adin Steinsalz.
Believe what you wish however, as I know where I stand, and am not bothered by your condemnation of me as a religious bigot.
Keep "digging" gatlin, you (unless you and sally are one and the same) have dug a hole so deep now you'll never get out of it, but the entertainment value of watching you try is priceless!
She made a couple of posts a day or two after yukon outed himself.
Why didn't she address the entire, "yukie-is-gay" fiasco then? Instead she hung him out to dry.....OR was she merely trying to give gatlin, harrowup, 22IQ, etal. time to "catapult the propaganda"??
Gatlin, what were the 'arrangements' being made you were referring to all weekend last week? Was the whole thing a Goldi/Yu-klown op to test ideological purity? I notice you are pretty chummy with war, LF's own Yu-klown, v. 2.0. He is identical to Goldie's son, isn't he?
Well, [W.A-R.'s] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over.
Well said. I myself do not care if anyone is gay or not. It is their business, and I only get angry if someone knocks lesbians and gays if they turn out to be one themselves.
As do I we are in agreement.
As for those who try to pin the orientation on me merely because I do not abide by picking on others for an aspect of themselves that has not been shown to make them dysfunctional as human beings or reduced their ability to function or be productive; I am not insecure enough to be bothered by such immature vindictiveness.
I dont know why some try to call others queers and fags and so on and so forth when they have absolutely no personal knowledge of anyones sexual orientation.
I've posted too long to have that thin a skin. And I pander to no one when I decide on my views on an issue.
Uh, you dont need to tell me that I have been on a forum to witness such, and proudly say I will join in with you while you do that anytime and anyplace.
For me, Yukon is damned by the weight of his empty calorie posts that bait, hate and lack weight of discussion of issues and insight regarding them.
And you have stated reasons valid for you having that feeling I have no disagreement with that.
I will take great exception with those who damn yukon by calling him a homo and do so without any proof, just because of the way and manner in which yukon posts.
I strongly feel that if I were to be deeply hostile toward Christianity, I would resemble the mindset I would be trying to slam. I have a great many dear friends who are Christian, and would stand up for them against anyone who tried to hurt their right to be who they are and to worship in the faith they call home.
Now, I do indeed have criticism of Christianity, but that is a whole different thing. I also as the oldest of six have the responsibility to preserve and protect the family Bible of my father, Daniel A. McCarthy, and I take that very seriously.
You've got a good nature about you. What I'm saying is...try harder not to resent us. That thorn shaped as a pentagram at 4um as your icon - It seems like a dig.
I will take great exception with those who damn yukon by calling him a homo and do so without any proof, just because of the way and manner in which yukon posts.
But you support yukon whose entire posting style is made up of making those very same attacks against others.
I will take great exception with those who damn yukon by calling him a homo and do so without any proof, just because of the way and manner in which yukon posts.
So you were dispatched over here for damage control by Goldi and or Yu-klown? He outted himself and there was a page here where he admitted as much. You want to see the original LP thread? I archived it, since I knew Yu-klown and his retinue of flying monkeys would begin to rewrite history.
Well, [W.A-R.'s] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over.
Gatlin, what were the 'arrangements' being made you were referring to all weekend last week?
LOL...Yes, the "Arrangements." Don't forget his list. And emailing the other neocon-Statist children.
Was the whole thing a Goldi/Yu-klown op to test ideological purity?
IMO a secondary benefit to having yukkie "take-one-for-the-team"; The Axis of Neocon-Statists have always wanted the conservative-libertarian wing of LP culled.
The primary mission of the charade/exercise though was in providing cover for iblewifartsky aka yukon's unfortunate browser gay SNAFU and outing. Guzzling that many cans of Sterno makes one careless.
So you acted as if the whole situation was a lie which means it was a cover up. I really don't care about liars either, even with your vaunted USMJ experience your testimony would be suspect since you admit you are dishonest on public forums.
Well, [W.A-R.'s] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over.
So you were dispatched over here for damage control by Goldi and or Yu-klown? He outted himself and there was a page here where he admitted as much. You want to see the original LP thread? I archived it...
HA! Gatlin's opened up a can of worms. How do you explain away the implausible? You can't. Usually, the less said, the better.
I knew Yu-klown and his retinue of flying monkeys would begin to rewrite history.
I believe that we may not know the truth for awhile, if ever. I do believe that the truth always come out, eventually.
Gatlin tried to make some kind of deal with Fred and myself.
He wrote to me... stick around for a while, I want to talk to you later. Then more about being given a chance.
He posted similar stuff to Fred about being given another chance.
Gatlin, what was it that you wanted to talk to me about, later? It sure sounded like some kind of amnesty deal if I played along with the hacker story.
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
I am getting behind ... I have started to ignore some posts.
I will go to your posts first, as they appear.
The only facts that we know, are that the threads, containing the posts in question WERE made under yukon's handle. The question is, were his accounts hacked...BOTH of them? There and here? That's hard to believe.
During my long lifetime, I have found that simple anwers are found for the most complex questions.
I gave you to "hypos" ... I will go into this deeper with you later ...
Gatlin tried to make some kind of deal with Fred and myself.
He wrote to me... stick around for a while, I want to talk to you later. Then more about being given a chance.
He posted similar stuff to Fred about being given another chance.
Gatlin, what was it that you wanted to talk to me about, later? It sure sounded like some kind of amnesty deal if I played along with the hacker story.
#192. To: hondo68, Gatlin the Rat, Itzlzha, We The People, Rek, rudgear, skip intro, Fred Mertz, ALL (#182)
Gatlin tried to make some kind of deal with Fred and myself.
He wrote to me... stick around for a while, I want to talk to you later. Then more about being given a chance.
He posted similar stuff to Fred about being given another chance.
Gatlin, what was it that you wanted to talk to me about, later? It sure sounded like some kind of amnesty deal if I played along with the hacker story.
I can't imagine what you think you are defending with such twisting of logic. No wonder you, Yu-klown and Yu-klown v.2.0 gang together. You can't answer a single question with a straight answer.
Well, [Yu-klown v. 2.0's] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over.
During my long lifetime, I have found that simple anwers are found for the most complex questions.
Classic double-speak. Typical. You work for the government, don't you?
Well, [Yu-klown v. 2.0's] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over.
Looks like Mr Potato Head's called for Flying Monkey reinforcement.
Well, [Yu-klown v. 2.0's] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over.
Well, [Yu-klown v. 2.0's] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over.
Well, [Yu-klown v. 2.0's] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over.
I understand and I respect your opinion/conclusion. If that is what you believe, then I believe you are being honest about it.
Thank you for your polite courtesy.
I however am still having problems. I believe that we may not know the truth for awhile, if ever. I do believe that the truth always come out, eventually.
As I said before, with the exception of the one point on which I will get back to you, I think we are as close as we will come.
The question is, will I be there to witness it.
If I learn of it, then I personally assure you will ...
As is often said: "You are a stand up guy."
And that is not to say: "We will not once again have so more "knock down and drag outs!
He might not have gotten the reward to which he feels he is entitled. It's a bitch when you sell your soul to find favor on a message board. How much more so when it's run by Ham-Hox and her pervert son?
Well, [Yu-klown v. 2.0's] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over.
Gatlin, what were the 'arrangements' being made you were referring to all weekend last week?
Options if Goldi were not to return.
Was the whole thing a Goldi/Yu-klown op to test ideological purity?
Definitely not.
I notice you are pretty chummy with war, LF's own Yu-klown, v. 2.0.
I speak only for myself. WAR and I were courtesous adversaries while he was on LP (check the posting history). Many disagreements, but never any name callings or hatred towards each other of any kind.
It would be hard for me to find political points on which WAR and I could agree, albeit there surely are some.
And unless there were some unforseen change (which I can absolutely project no reason to be) it would be impossible for me to ever be discourteous to WAR while expressing my views and positions.
He is identical to Goldie's son, isn't he?
I can't see that ... you would need to show me where and how.
Well, [Yu-klown v. 2.0's] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over.
He might not have gotten the reward to which he feels he is entitled. It's a bitch when you sell your soul to find favor on a message board. How much more so when it's run by Ham-Hox and her pervert son?
Just like a thief thinks everyone will steal from him, or a liar thinks everyone is lying, I naturally assume people are honorable and honest, until they prove to me otherwise.
To be perfectly honest, no, I didn't expect him to, but I had to ask.
It would be hard for me to find political points on which WAR and I could agree, albeit there surely are some.
Forget the politics. Both sides are the same. You, Yu-klown and Yu-klown v. 2.0 are identical in purpose, attitude, and cynicism. None of you will answer a question and you the two Yu-klowns enjoy a circle of ass-kissers who swarm targets on their role models behalf.
And you are chummy with both.
Well, [Yu-klown v. 2.0's] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over.
So you were dispatched over here for damage control by Goldi and or Yu- klown?
No, if you will pardon my bluntness it is my personal opinion that Goldi and yukon dont give a shit at what you think or say. Ill be happy to get a direct quote and get back to you if you wish but I assure you that you will find the sentiment to be the same.
He outted himself and there was a page here where he admitted as much.
How do you know that was yukon and if it were, how do you know that he was not just pulling your chain, something that I can surmise is easily done.
You want to see the original LP thread? I archived it,
I have no need to you keep it as a souvenir and may I suggest you listen to Ray Price singing For the Good Times whenever you review it.
I knew Yu-klown and his retinue of flying monkeys would begin to rewrite history.
Because 22Rifle-the-RAT is too chickensh*t to answer a simple question honesty with witnesses. There is no good reason to being a dishonorable RAT. Live it, wear it - forever.
What did you get from Ham-Hox and Golden Shower Boy for running interference on their behalf? Does being a latrine cleaner endow you with more virtue than you already had?
Well, [Yu-klown v. 2.0's] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over.
Well, [Yu-klown v. 2.0's] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over.
Thank you. But I've already asked you more than enough questions and taken much of your time.
Most considerate of you. As the old saying goes: "My Time is Your Time" ... seriously.
I think I just have to roll this around for awhile, and let the pieces fall where they may.
I know the feeling ... well. I have "been there ... done that."
I will be most interested to learn of your conclusions. I don't stop over here very often ... I will check back from time to time to see if you would like to discuss anything.
You've been ignoring everyone's posts with your double-talk.
Well, [Yu-klown v. 2.0's] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over.
If anyone wishes to carry on a serious and courteous dialogue with me, I would appreciate them letting you know and I will be more than happy to post with them.
of a master, Goldi Lox and tell her that whatever she intended in your coming here didn't work. Itzlzha was smart enough to preserve the thread in its entirety before Goldi could "nuke" it and she is now BUSTED and GOBSMACKED!!
With a mother like that, no wonder Yu-klown turned out queer.
Well, [Yu-klown v. 2.0's] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over.
#280. To: Tater, Itzlzha, Skip Intro, Murron, We The People, Rudgear, Rek (#256)
Post Ignored ... Not addressed directly to me.
Amended to comply with the international rules of bath house etiquette:
DIRECTLY to Tater
On LP Gatlin tried to make some kind of deal with Fred and myself.
He wrote to me... stick around for a while, I want to talk to you later. Then more about being given a chance.
He posted similar stuff to Fred about being given another chance.
Gatlin, what was it that you wanted to talk to me about, later? It sure sounded like some kind of amnesty deal if I played along with the hacker story.
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
If this is you Gatlin, what are you doing off your throne? Don't you have some heads to chop at LP, I think I just saw one of LP's gullibles bowing to you, and you missed it! PISHER!!
I don't like to be a spelling policeman but I'm familiar with this computer jargon as a software programmer and I think the term you are after here is PHISHER.
One of the troubling things about this whole sordid episode is what do these neo-con bath house habituates get out of continued favor from the site owner and defending her pervert kid? Is being part of an inner-circle that gratifying to them they will jettison everything to be counted in the winners circle? Call me naive, but I don't see the do-or-die need to be allowed to post on a message board.
Well, [Yu-klown v. 2.0's] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over.
Call me naive, but I don't see the do-or-die need to be allowed to post on a message board.
Ding..ding...ding! LOL!
As bad as most of them are, the one (at the moment) who turns my stomach the most is WhiteSands, behavior like hers in real life would get her face smashed in...she's sickening the way she stalks some posters just to tattle to sally...ewwwwww
I wouldn't kiss anyone butt to post on ANY board, cyber space is too big and there is more to life than forums out there!
#285. To: Murron, WhiteSands with no space (#284)(Edited)
What is interesting is the WhiteTrash cannot see the forrest for the trees, he/she has an insane mad-on fixation with the Catholic church and pedophiles in general but defends Yu-klown and Goldi was raised a Catholic. Go figure. BrownShirt is just a suck-up flying monkey who runs to Goldi every two minutes. What a sad sack of a person.
Well, [Yu-klown v. 2.0's] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over.
As bad as most of them are, the one (at the moment) who turns my stomach the most is WhiteSands, behavior like hers in real life would get her face smashed in...she's sickening the way she stalks some posters just to tattle to sally...ewwwwww
I agree with you. Whitey has lately taken to attacking other posters children as well, calling them, among other things, Facebook Bitches.
Whitey is disgusting and immoral.
But...WhiteSands is a woman? That never dawned on me and makes his/her behavior even more disgusting.
No, I didn't think so. That's odd, to say the least.
And everyone's emailing her of the problems and posting they are getting either no reply or notices that emails are not going through. Yet Yukon conveniently is able to snag another relevant ID during the confusion.
Timelines don't fit, you would think Mr USMJ would at least be suspicious.
She's actually being TOO rational, if you know what I mean.
The amount of money that we were discussing for this purchase was not a make or break amount, either way.
Still though, she is probably right and not only do I have to admit and live with that, ;o) I also don't get to visit Arizona/Utah and the canyons until later.
Because the 'hacking' was already well underway and I'm sure with the threads/post counts, was more than evident. Yet nothing was said for another 2 days. In fact, Goldi disappeared for another 2 days.
Because the 'hacking' was already well underway and I'm sure with the threads/post counts, was more than evident. Yet nothing was said for another 2 days. In fact, Goldi disappeared for another 2 days.
Yukon's 'coming out' was on the 27th, when the forum basically exploded with threads and posts.
Yes
Goldi posts on the 29th, over a period of roughly 30 minutes, and doesn't notice it?
Why should she how could she?
She came on line picked up on the current posts and started to exchange points.
I cant believe she has a checklist (flashback there) to come on forum, then check every thread, then check every ping do you?
In fact Goldi has often said that unless she is actively engaged during an exchange, the she never checks her pings there are just too many to read them all. A classic example of that is the barrage I went through yesterday. Then it isn't even mentioned until the 31st in a fundraiser thread?
Same answer someone, no doubt yukon finally got in touch with her or she saw the thread.
It's just all too weird.
What specifically
Something doesn't add up.
What something?
I fail to see anything odd I fail to see anything unusual I can see Goldis actions as being normal for her.
I will believe but I must be shown specifics in order to believe. I cannot believe just for the sake of believeing.
She doesn't "issue" new IDs dumbass. Listen, if you don't know what the hell you are talking about (and that's obvious) then shut the f' up. You are just cluttering the conversation with dumbassery.
You are fighting the good fight, but 22rifle, Mr Potato Head and calcon are Goldi's flying monkey squad. They're here to squelch any reasonable discussion of the irregularities at LP. Like a professional accountant neglecting to set up a separate account for her web site and instead asking for blank checks.
My guess their motive is they get a cut of the final take if they can shut down any threat to that scam. The same thing happens of FreakRepugnant.
Well, [Yu-klown v. 2.0's] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over.
I have a trail of disconnected phone numbers in my past too. Not one of them had anything to do with funds or the lack thereof. It's called moving, disconnecting one number, and getting a new number. But you knew that didn't you? You have an ugly, dark soul.
She actually emailed you when you signed up for a user name over there? Wow! Everyone else got a system generated email that has nothing to do with Goldi's email address or account.
have a trail of disconnected phone numbers in my past too. Not one of them had anything to do with funds or the lack thereof. It's called moving, disconnecting one number, and getting a new number. But you knew that didn't you? You have an ugly, dark soul.
Goldi had her phone disconnected? Why didn't she just say so.
You monkeys need to fly back for further instructions.
How do we know the person posting as Goldi is the real Goldi? I mean, being that hacking and identity theft is such an issue.
Well, [Yu-klown v. 2.0's] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over.
Nope. Since the address the checks went to was not her address of residence, but a drop box type of arrangement, whether private or commercial, I do not know.
Are you privy to her requesting an new SS#? Odd that she would confide in you, after such an identity theft.
Well, [Yu-klown v. 2.0's] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over.
Well, [Yu-klown v. 2.0's] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over.
Leave these two goldi-lollipops alone, Rek. They are ashamed of their pal, Yukon the AlaskanQueerQueen and are sent as flaming monkeys to create a frenzy.
I just want to make a point: if their story is even correct (as though anyone would take the time to hack some AlaskanQueerQueen's insignificant LP account) then it can be done again and again and again.
As the AlaskanQueerQueen would say: LOLAYA!!!!!!!!
To: Rek, Tater, 22Rifle Leave these two goldi-lollipops alone, Rek. They are ashamed of their pal, Yukon the AlaskanQueerQueen and are sent as flaming monkeys to create a frenzy.
I just want to make a point: if their story is even correct (as though anyone would take the time to hack some AlaskanQueerQueen's insignificant LP account) then it can be done again and again and again.
As the AlaskanQueerQueen would say: LOLAYA!!!!!!!!
The Inspector has now completely contradicted himself, again.
Mr Potato Head suddenly got very quiet.
Well, [Yu-klown v. 2.0's] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over.
If your AlaskanQueerQueen's total bullshit story and coverup was true, why hasn't he asked LF's site's webowner to reset his "Ibluafartsky" account?
What a disgusting pig this neo-con "yukon" has been ranting and raving about American values, begging for wars around the world and calling everyone a goddamned queer because he was projecting all along.
Goldi's little pet queer, "yukon." Sounds like a nice book to read in your elementary school's classroom doesn't it?
I don't think Goldi really cares about anyone getting slandered or harassed at her site. She really just does not care. People being cyber stalked and outed by real - legal name- has happened before and she looks the other way. That was all I wanted to add to the topic.
I can't imagine anyone taking LP seriously after this last bunch of malarkey. It is obvious that the site is Goldi's playground, and she only has rules for people she doesn't personally like. She is going to do what she wants to do- just like she always has. She is so venomous about the old clown posse posters- and how is she exactly any different than the owners of those old anti- freeper sites? She is allowing people to do the same things at LP. she only seems to get angry when someone stands up for themselves.
Oh well, live and learn.
That being said, I am glad that she isn't dead. It is just another chat site- in a sea of chat sites. :)
As bad as most of them are, the one (at the moment) who turns my stomach the most is WhiteSands, behavior like hers in real life would get her face smashed in...she's sickening the way she stalks some posters just to tattle to sally...ewwwwww
Poor yukon.... stalked across the internet getting it's passwords repeatedly stolen with others making all those nasty posts. All the while the guy's really just SWELL.
I can't imagine anyone taking LP seriously after this last bunch of malarkey. It is obvious that the site is Goldi's playground, and she only has rules for people she doesn't personally like. She is going to do what she wants to do- just like she always has.
Your observation is spot on. It's now morphed into Free Republic's little brother. Goldi is now a female JR. The place even has its separate rules and version of Mods who frivolously censor and ZOT - as well as versions of Howlin and Pukin Dog as "pets."
Regrettably and embarrassingly, I recommended several people check LP out recently. NOT a forum I would any longer want to be associated with.
The thread didn't seen to phase her one bit, nor did the fact that several posters were upset and indeed concerned that the news was true. And oddly enough, no general announcement: "THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONCERN."
Poor yukon.... stalked across the internet getting it's passwords repeatedly stolen with others making all those nasty posts. All the while the guy's really just SWELL.
I can't believe the AlaskanQueerQueen has the audacity to use his "yukon" monicker anymore. I hear he is still posting without any humility to his flock of fellow cocksuckers. He shall always be confronted with this stench, FOREVER.
The thread didn't seen to phase her one bit, nor did the fact that several posters were upset and indeed concerned that the news was true. And oddly enough, no general announcement: "THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONCERN."
Who the HELL cares about what "yukon" believes anymore. What has been done can't be fixed by any coverup, conspiracy or hope. He is tarnished as the AlaskanQueerQueen with his moniker.
Lets pretend for a moment on the LP thread that it was some hacker creating the fabricated story. Wouldn't that hacker have made more comments all the way down the thread attesting to his own homosexuality playing a defensive role? Of course "yukon" would have if and only been hacked as you claim.
But that didn't happen. There were only a handful of posts before the thread was pulled; the thread went over 1500 posts as I am told. So explain why a hacker wouldn't keep up the momentum to build the thread into infinity? Afterall Goldi was away, wasn't she?
Lets pretend for a moment on the LP thread that it was some hacker creating the fabricated story. Wouldn't that hacker have made more comments all the way down the thread attesting to his own homosexuality playing a defensive role?
Gotta go, liberator, come over and see me sometimes ... ooops, I forgot, you can't.
Why Colonel - did you actually presume I'd participate at a forum with a core of jerks and statist sycophants, and owners who regards its posters as fools?
Of course - YOU would.
Btw - don't think posters and lurkers are fooled by your disingenuous politeness and flattery. They aren't quite as stupid as you'd like to believe. But I guess spending all that time around in your service-bubble and bunch of fellow-suck-ups and azz-kissers made you believe everyone is a willing tool. Think again.
The AlaskanQueerQueen is tainted forever. He can't beg, borrow or steal out of this shenanigan whether he did or not do anything.
The thread served a good purpose, in other words. LP is going to flame forever as a result of Goldi's little pet queer. And the stench of the rub will attach itself to anyone on LP or associated with anyone that is considered in Sally's BS "inner circle" such as Gatlin or 22Rifle.
The AlaskanQueerQueen is tainted forever. He can't beg, borrow or steal out of this shenanigan whether he did or not do anything.
True - the die is cast...
The arrogance and belligerence of this statist-shill has caused many to discount any benefit of doubt and eschewing much sympathy. To make matters worse, Yu-Klown hadn't much credibility to begin with. Moreover, if the monkey-business, collusion, convoluted cover-up, diversions, and games of the participants did anything, it was instead to make it clear the incident was....real. And invite scrutiny.
The thread served a good purpose, in other words. LP is going to flame forever as a result of Goldi's little pet queer. And the stench of the rub will attach itself to anyone on LP or associated with anyone that is considered in Sally's BS "inner circle" such as Gatlin or 22Rifle.
Unfortunately, your analysis rings true. The integrity of LP was sacrificed.
Why is the obvious outcome "unfortunate?" I think the outcome is awesome.
Relatively speaking, for a long time LP was a pretty fair forum and an advocate of conservative thought - with a core of good people and posters.
That balance is totally out of kilter as it makes its statement to be a decidedly pro-Statist, neocon forum. That its management chose to engage in and promote subterfuge compromised its integrity.
I told myself I'm out of here when this hits 400 replies.
I agree with you. When any thread becomes large it is difficult to manage the respective comments. BTW, I saw you make a post to Ibluafartsky a while ago... just to ping him.
LOL ... that poster is gone and shall never return.
I agree with you. When any thread becomes large it is difficult to manage the respective comments. BTW, I saw you make a post to Ibluafartsky a while ago... just to ping him.
LOL ... that poster is gone and shall never return.
And it won't be apparent but fewer and fewer posters and channel hits occur.
I was zapped by the fucking bitch for no fucking reason of my own. That was irresponsible behaviour on her part.
Now, she is running a Beg-A-Thon; it all was suddenly created because of the recent exploits because of her own mis-management (being away and enjoying her new job) while attempting to coverup for her little pet queer's plight.
I checked her Beg-A-Thon thread. It is pandemonium at best while she exercises her POWER to fuck with anyone that disagrees with her or her little pet queer. You are an excellent example of the recent fallout and the future fallout to come.
She will reduce her channel to nothing. And I am happy with that. As GWBUSH would say: M-I-S-S-I-O-N_A-C-C-O-M-P-L-I-S-H-E-D.
Hi Ferret, we still on for tonight? I'll be in my favorite stall by 6:00, you know where it is. Tap three times with your light loafers if you want me.
You did defend Goldi a number of times that I recall. You even defended her to me when I first showed up at LP, years ago, when I made the comment that her style was like JR at times.
I feel very uncomfortable about her treatment of you, truthfully, and do not plan to return there, because of the way she treated you. You were her friend. You were kind to her, and you were supportive.
Even tho it is a simple chat site- I would like the site that I frequent, to have someone with some integrity - at the helm. Stabbing a friend in the back, like what she did to you, is not the integrity I am looking for.
There are far too many other sites to plop down at for a bit, for me to be annoyed anymore. I chose to not be annoyed.
"You seem to know what is happening ..... it is subtle, correct?"
It is. The good thing coming out of this is the loss of value eLPee has as an amplification asset to getting out it's political buzz Goldi grooms and managed.
Anything else is really just entertainment value at this point to be taken or left at one's own whim at the moment.
It is what it is. And as someone who was kicked for no real reason, it's nice to see Yukon and Sally play this Republican gay soap opera that plays havoc with their veracity.
LP was lost years ago. I am not a 0bama fan. And I am not a GWBush fan. But look at what happened to that channel over time. More wars, loss of personal freedoms and loss of borders while engaging in all new wars this past week.
I am sick of it. And the last thing I need is review that stuff.
We need criticism of this government that extracts our taxes before a paycheck and then claims it is broke fighting for us.
#425. To: diva betsy ross, Liberator (#421)(Edited)
Just about everyone who has been associated with sally from the beginning have defended her, she'll never realize that even though this is just the internet, she had a lot of friends. But over the years she's destroyed that friendship in favor of the very behavior she claimed to abhore. A person would think that in this time of her life (yes I know her age), she would cherish those who cared.
Bottom line, for whatever reason she chooses, she brought all this on herself. Those who once cared for her wish her no harm, they just don't care anymore, there is a whole life out there, real friends who care and events going on besides her little world. jmho!
Why? America is going into ruin with all this US government approved methods or authorized budgeting to convincing even mere Internet chit-channels about how great the US government is.
Nope. There is no longer any reason to deal with chit-channels for any data or opinions; it is impossible to filter out the total BULLSHIT sponsored by government powers anymore.
It took a lot of courage for many of us to realize what happened to the MSM; particularly in Waco, TX back in 1993 based on the federal government murdering about 80 Branch-Davidians.
But nothing has changed other than this madhouse of a nation and the world around has become more oppressive, police-state and the denial of individual rights. And it is going to become worse, pal.
That said, I would bet castration with a rusty knife that Yukon's account was not hacked. There was too much effort at damage control first.
Were I to be "hacked" I would get a new login immediately and state what was going on.
That fact alone tells me he wasn't hacked.
But then he came here and tried to pretend nothing happened. Then he admitted something did. Then he disappeared.
This was the equivalent of baling out and having your ripchord malfunction. I'd be ripping open that chute trying to get it to deploy. Yukon simply augered it in, Sir.
"But nothing has changed other than this madhouse of a nation and the world around has become more oppressive, police-state and the denial of individual rights. And it is going to become worse, pal. "
It will. And sooner than people know. When the dollar is no longer the world's reserve currency and we can't print our way out of hyper inflation and the standard of living falls a great deal, things will be much different.
Of course you can believe what you want to ... and that is the way it should be.
I have been at this for six days now, so I am ready to finally give up on it an move on.
Two points from many, many.
The best information I have been able to assemble is that yukon's password both on LP and LF were compromised ... they were the same. Yukon used a simplistic password association, the most common mistake. While discussing this matter, someone was able to guess yukon's old password in a matter of minutes.
That was not him posting here. He still does not post here because he does not have a password to the original screen name here.
I was in back channel contact with yukon as soon as possible after he came on LP as I'm Back.
The delay in him returning has no association with any assumed "guilt" that I can find.
Again, none of the posts here and on LP by "yukon" until he signed in at LP as I'm Back and after Goldi cleared for him to reset his password ... were made by the real "yukon."
That's is from as an objective investigation as I could conduct. There was no firm evidence ... there never is in any cases like this. It was just from piecing things together after many messages, converstions and questions.
Again, you of course will believe what you want to ... that's fine, you should do that.
I have stated what I have determined to the best of my ability to be the circumstances behind this.
As eager as yukon is to raise Hell ... since we may be doing "ifs", then one would need to ask why he is not on LF now doing his old hits.
That was quick ... fingers flying, but I just wanted to respond to your statement and let you know how I see it. I assure you, that if I felt for one moment that yukon was lying, or if yukon were an outted homo trying to get back in the closet ... then I would scream loudly at his reasons, procedures, tactics and so on.
Nice to post with you again, Sir ... I probably will be leaving this forum again soon, but try to check in from time to time to read and see "what's up."
I will come back later today to check your response to this, and answer any questions you may have.
One poster on this thread gave me Holy Hell for being friendly with you. If you happen to run across his post ... will you do me a favor, and "bitch slap" the shit out of him. He needs that. :)
I don't really know anything about Jack's death. I know he wasn't fond of mel. I have a hard time believing she has killers, or had anything to do with Jack's death.
I know mel did tease you and harass you- and helped get you banned from LP. I know that she is heartless and thinks it is funny that you were hurt and frightened, and that she stalked you all over the net. I know she celebrates hurting people. I learned that she has a very long history of hurting people that she knows from online, and I have tied to warn other people too.
No one really wants to listen, buck. So let them find out the hard way.
As far as killing anyone- I can't say that she killed anyone. Why do you think it was her? .
BTW, get you ass back to LP so Goldi-Loks can clean your ass. I shall do what I think is well founded about further compaints of your nasty behaviour; here (at LF) we have scrupples and don't run around creating "snicker" candy assed posts.
You don't understand much of anything other than being accepted into the inner circle on LP. Well, you have Goldi, Yukon and missquiddle. And that leaves only three of you remaining. Which one are you going to weed out next?
Well, [Yu-klown v. 2.0's] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over.
I saw Sally, crying her eyes out about her nose problem and why sh couldn't attend to her flock for almost a week. I also saw you and about other Tom, Dick and Harry making shit up up about me: Oh ol' Buck did this or that or the other thing based on rumour and gossip.
I don't have time to fuck with your butt-buddy, A SELF-ADMITTED ALASKAN QUEERQUEEN.
Now, take my peace offering and get you butt back to LP... so they can ream your ass out for not asking the correct questions to me.
Not necessarily. You can download fake IP address generators of the net for free.
Well, [Yu-klown v. 2.0's] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over.
With all due respect to the person who claims to have been hacked (and he was), he is not sophisticated enough when it comes to IT to do anything like that. I suspect his lack of sophistication made him an easy target for the vile POS that did this.
This is assuming that it did happen. According to tater, he doesn't feel hacking took place. I asked him If he thought the person posting as Goldi was in fact the real deal. He posted back that he felt the real Goldi hadn't shown up yet. Rather contradictory.
Well, [Yu-klown v. 2.0's] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over.
Well, [Yu-klown v. 2.0's] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over.
One possible explanation for the fake IP number....
When yukon accidentally posted his favorite lovethecock link at LP, he called the homo helpline at 1-800-22R-ifle, and gave them his LF password. The gay tech wizards logged in using a fake IP and performed the fake gay outing, in order to lend credence to the hacker cover story going on at LP.
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
One possible explanation for the fake IP number....
When yukon accidentally posted his favorite lovethecock link at LP, he called the homo helpline at 1-800-22R-ifle, and gave them his LF password. The gay tech wizards logged in using a fake IP and performed the fake gay outing, in order to lend credence to the hacker cover story going on at LP.
It's 2011. I rarely come in here and rarely post at all anymore and these people are STILL obsessing over me? Holy Smokes Batman! I have life to tend to. Evidently, they do not.
It's 2011. I rarely come in here and rarely post at all anymore and these people are STILL obsessing over me? Holy Smokes Batman! I have life to tend to. Evidently, they do not.
That's not a refutation of charges, is it? More kloughn evasion.
It seems odd that to trash the character, instead of refuting the charges of posters is ineffectual and rather disingenuous. In fact, it seems to substantiate the charges they make.
You're going to have to explain what you mean. I haven't trashed anyone but I see several threads posted throughout this month where I have been trashed and I haven't even been here. I'm not surprised, really, considering. I you want to ask me something, then ask. I'm only here waiting for a message from somebody and once I get it, I'm going back to the real world. What else am I being charged with that you would like me to respond to? I haven't time to read up on everything everyone has written.
Hardly, I don't have quite that much available free time. So I only check out the moonbat rantings when somebody either cuts and pastes or sends me a pm with a link.
Evidently you would read every word if you were the subject. I don't need that type of thing.
Your address was not posted. It has been years, DBR, and I haven't been around here in a very long time. You know exactly who I am. Everyone does. It is not a secret. The reason you are now thinking your address was posted is because it was on the hard copy that was served on you in person. Now, I would suggest you let sleeping dogs lie and not dredge up the past. And if you do dredge up the past, at least tell the truth, if you even know what that is. Have a nice day. Have a nice life. I'm not playing your game anymore, if you haven't noticed.
Its amazing how some fixate on old flame wars from years past, isn't it?
If I were mel, I would ignore that DBR altogether, that person just ain't right in the head, schizo doesn't begin to discribe what she is...she talks as if she's the second coming of christ at LP...I wouldn't doubt she is posting from a ward in some insane asylum...
Bunch of freaks and nuts - I tell you. I'm going back to the real world now. This imaginary, paranoid, what-ever-it-is is entertaining, but I have more important things to do.
The filter works except when a personal attack thread is posted...something Stone needs to make a bannable offense in my view. Using the filter has the 'added value' of driving the poster filtered bat shit crazy.
The filter works except when a personal attack thread is posted...something Stone needs to make a bannable offense in my view. Using the filter has the 'added value' of driving the poster filtered bat shit crazy.