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Title: Nation of Takers, Not Makers~more work for govt. than manufacturing, farming, fishing, forestry, mining & utilities combined
Source: WSJ
URL Source: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB100 ... 4050204576219073867182108.html
Published: Apr 1, 2011
Author: STEPHEN MOORE
Post Date: 2011-04-01 09:06:01 by Happy Quanzaa
Keywords: Obama-doma-ding-dong
Views: 193100
Comments: 226

We've Become a Nation of Takers, Not Makers

More Americans work for the government than in manufacturing, farming, fishing, forestry, mining and utilities combined.

If you want to understand better why so many states—from New York to Wisconsin to California—are teetering on the brink of bankruptcy, consider this depressing statistic: Today in America there are nearly twice as many people working for the government (22.5 million) than in all of manufacturing (11.5 million). This is an almost exact reversal of the situation in 1960, when there were 15 million workers in manufacturing and 8.7 million collecting a paycheck from the government.

It gets worse. More Americans work for the government than work in construction, farming, fishing, forestry, manufacturing, mining and utilities combined. We have moved decisively from a nation of makers to a nation of takers. Nearly half of the $2.2 trillion cost of state and local governments is the $1 trillion-a-year tab for pay and benefits of state and local employees. Is it any wonder that so many states and cities cannot pay their bills?

Every state in America today except for two—Indiana and Wisconsin—has more government workers on the payroll than people manufacturing industrial goods. Consider California, which has the highest budget deficit in the history of the states. The not-so Golden State now has an incredible 2.4 million government employees—twice as many as people at work in manufacturing. New Jersey has just under two-and-a-half as many government employees as manufacturers. Florida's ratio is more than 3 to 1. So is New York's.

Even Michigan, at one time the auto capital of the world, and Pennsylvania, once the steel capital, have more government bureaucrats than people making things. The leaders in government hiring are Wyoming and New Mexico, which have hired more than six government workers for every manufacturing worker.

Now it is certainly true that many states have not typically been home to traditional manufacturing operations. Iowa and Nebraska are farm states, for example. But in those states, there are at least five times more government workers than farmers. West Virginia is the mining capital of the world, yet it has at least three times more government workers than miners. New York is the financial capital of the world—at least for now. That sector employs roughly 670,000 New Yorkers. That's less than half of the state's 1.48 million government employees.

Don't expect a reversal of this trend anytime soon. Surveys of college graduates are finding that more and more of our top minds want to work for the government. Why? Because in recent years only government agencies have been hiring, and because the offer of near lifetime security is highly valued in these times of economic turbulence. When 23-year-olds aren't willing to take career risks, we have a real problem on our hands. Sadly, we could end up with a generation of Americans who want to work at the Department of Motor Vehicles.

The employment trends described here are explained in part by hugely beneficial productivity improvements in such traditional industries as farming, manufacturing, financial services and telecommunications. These produce far more output per worker than in the past. The typical farmer, for example, is today at least three times more productive than in 1950.

Where are the productivity gains in government? Consider a core function of state and local governments: schools. Over the period 1970-2005, school spending per pupil, adjusted for inflation, doubled, while standardized achievement test scores were flat. Over roughly that same time period, public-school employment doubled per student, according to a study by researchers at the University of Washington. That is what economists call negative productivity.

But education is an industry where we measure performance backwards: We gauge school performance not by outputs, but by inputs. If quality falls, we say we didn't pay teachers enough or we need smaller class sizes or newer schools. If education had undergone the same productivity revolution that manufacturing has, we would have half as many educators, smaller school budgets, and higher graduation rates and test scores.

The same is true of almost all other government services. Mass transit spends more and more every year and yet a much smaller share of Americans use trains and buses today than in past decades. One way that private companies spur productivity is by firing underperforming employees and rewarding excellence. In government employment, tenure for teachers and near lifetime employment for other civil servants shields workers from this basic system of reward and punishment. It is a system that breeds mediocrity, which is what we've gotten.

Most reasonable steps to restrain public-sector employment costs are smothered by the unions. Study after study has shown that states and cities could shave 20% to 40% off the cost of many services—fire fighting, public transportation, garbage collection, administrative functions, even prison operations—through competitive contracting to private providers. But unions have blocked many of those efforts. Public employees maintain that they are underpaid relative to equally qualified private-sector workers, yet they are deathly afraid of competitive bidding for government services.

President Obama says we have to retool our economy to "win the future." The only way to do that is to grow the economy that makes things, not the sector that takes things.

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#187. To: diva betsy ross (#184)

It is an unfortunate truth, but a truth nonetheless, that the Bible is not a book for unbelievers. Until you are born again, the Bible's lessons are not for you.

That makes no sense. How do you become born again if you haven't read the Bible?

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Rek  posted on  2011-04-03   22:38:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#188. To: Rek (#187)

That makes no sense. How do you become born again if you haven't read the Bible?

Thank you. This is why I call her dingbat.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-04-03   22:40:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#189. To: Rek (#187) (Edited)

There are plenty of people who are born again, and haven't read the Bible. Being born again happens when a person surrenders to the Holy Spirit. Most people I know are born again- and THEN start to take the Bible seriously.

Most people, (in my experience), go to church at some point, or have a friend or family member lead them to Christ , and then confess their sins and ask for the Holy Spirit to lead them out of some painful situation. THEN they are transformed (born again), and then learn about the lessons in the Bible and how to apply those lessons to their life.

I can not imagine the lessons make much sense without the Holy Spirit.

I became a Christ follower when I was very young, and I didn't really read the Bible until about three years ago.

It makes perfect sense to me now- but that is after a lifetime of walking with God ,in my personal life.

I teach the Bible to kids- it is very complex. Without seeing those people and stories thru the filter of spiritual re-birth, it is impossible to understand.

diva betsy ross  posted on  2011-04-03   22:47:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#190. To: Rek (#186)

I'd mention that Jesus didn't have a bad word to say about slavery either, but I'm not into discussing the Civil War tonight.

Oops.

"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-04-03   22:54:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#191. To: diva betsy ross (#189)

There are plenty of people who are born again, and haven't read the Bible. Being born again happens when a person surrenders to the Holy Spirit. Most people I know are born again- and THEN start to take the Bible seriously.

Most people, (in my experience), go to church at some point, or have a friend or family member lead them to Christ , and then confess their sins and ask for the Holy Spirit to lead them out of some painful situation. THEN they are transformed (born again), and then learn about the lessons in the Bible and how to apply those lessons to their life.

Since being born again is a conscious decision, not something they were born into and learned by osmosis, they are really being ill informed if they haven't read at least the New Testament before making the biggest decision of their lives. I can definitely see why they make good Koch bait.

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Rek  posted on  2011-04-03   23:07:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#192. To: diva betsy ross, Rek, A K A Stone (#189)

I became a Christ follower when I was very young, and I didn't really read the Bible until about three years ago.

It makes perfect sense to me now- but that is after a lifetime of walking with God ,in my personal life.

I suppose your 'personal life' and internet life are separate and one has nothing to do with the other. In your walks with God, did He ever mention Exodus 20, or did it just slip your mind?

"Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour"

I've been watching you start the same rumor mongoring about a friend of ours all over again on this board, you just don't know when to quit. You slander and smear mel_living every chance you get, attempting to build yourself up, while tearing this lady down. You don't know squat about her. She never mentions you, I never mention you when we speak, you are not that important enough to dwell upon, her life is full and rewarding, she stays busy and happy, and here you are talking about this woman like you actually know her.

The next time you discuss her, do everyone here a favor, in your accusations and the shit you drop about her, post proof of what you speak of, show these people here you of what you speak...or STFU!

Living a Christian life, walking with God and heeding his teachings doesn't end when you sit down at your keyboard! I was raised a Christian too, but that does not make me one, I don't live the way I should, so I don't claim to be something I am not. jmho!

Murron  posted on  2011-04-03   23:16:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#193. To: Rek (#191)

The general knowledge of the Bible permeates our world and our society. Almost everyone knows what the Bible is about. People have a general idea of the teachings, but you were talking about reading the Bible.

My answer speaks directly to your statement. It is not necessary to have read the Bible to make a conscious decision to follow the teachings of Christ, and to walk out of the darkness and pain - and into an abundant life of riches and peace.

For some people the peace of the Holy Spirit is all they need to know ,to make the choice to learn the deeper mysteries of the Bible.

I have seen people transform their lives from crime, substance abuse, violence, rage, greed, illness of all kinds-by accepting Christ. Most of them didn't have a working knowledge of the Bible at the time they surrendered and chose a new life for themselves.

That is just how it happens. I am just trying to help you understand.

diva betsy ross  posted on  2011-04-03   23:19:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#194. To: Murron (#192)

I don't know much about mel living. I enjoyed her posts when she posted here though.

Murron none of us are perfect. We all do wrong. If you ask for forgiveness when you do wrong. And you sincerely believe what Christ taught. I think that makes you a christian.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-04-03   23:20:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#195. To: Rek (#187)

That makes no sense. How do you become born again if you haven't read the Bible?

What about the men who died with Christ on the cross? They didn't read the Bible. What did Jesus say about them?

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-04-03   23:22:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#196. To: A K A Stone (#194)

Mel is a wonderful person, she very active and still doing great things with minutemen project when she has time. DBR has, for several day now, slammed this woman again, hell, her and buck have even dropped attempted murder accusations about her at 4um, and her and buck both stabbed mel in the back again here again, think, yesterday, they just won't let it go. It makes all the difference in the world when you know the person being slandered...

Murron  posted on  2011-04-03   23:23:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#197. To: Murron (#192)

The key word there is false. (False witness is not what you are talking about anyway.) I have never lied. I am good to let God judge my every word and deed.

Again, an unbeliever tries to condemn and judge with the Bible ,and it is just silly.

Anyway-

I stand by everything I have said. I have offered nothing that has been false. You also don't understand gossip. Gossip is a triangulation. I took it all to her first- and I did not get her to cease her stalking or harassment.

I am then free to talk about my experiences, where I want to, and with the motivation that my story helps someone else, who finds themselves in the same circumstances. Since my story is true, I am free to warn others of the danger.

So yea, anything else?

diva betsy ross  posted on  2011-04-03   23:27:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#198. To: A K A Stone (#196)

Oh yeah! One of the reasons mel stopped posting was the stalking, DBR just never gave it a rest, at LP, Sally wouldn't even step in and stop it, mel came here and so did buck and DBR and continued the stalking...you lost a good poster and fantastic lady.

I've had my say, so I'll just leave it at that, thank you.

Murron  posted on  2011-04-03   23:30:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#199. To: diva betsy ross (#184)

Tell me where Jesus said you should not pay taxes to the govt.....

"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-04-03   23:32:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#200. To: Murron (#196)

See Murron- that post of yours is perfect false testimony and gossip. I never said anything about her murdering anyone- other than I doubted that she murdered anyone.

When you lie and attribute something to someone they never said- in order to discredit them in public- THAT is bearing false witness and gossip.

Hope that clears that up. :)

diva betsy ross  posted on  2011-04-03   23:33:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#201. To: diva betsy ross (#200)

Anyone seen mudboy lately?

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-04-03   23:35:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#202. To: Murron (#198)

That is more gossip, slander, and false witness, murron. I like how that worked out. Perfect way to illustrate the lesson.

diva betsy ross  posted on  2011-04-03   23:35:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#203. To: A K A Stone (#201)

No I have not seen him in a long time. I hope he is well.

diva betsy ross  posted on  2011-04-03   23:36:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#204. To: A K A Stone (#194)

I think a great way for anyone, including adults to learn about the Bible, is to read a children's Bible. It is just so much easier to start there. That is what I did when I really wanted to get into my Bible. I learned children's lessons for a year- first.

But there are the A,B,C's of salvation. (Which is offered to every single person)

Admit sin in is your life, Believe that Christ,( the son of God), died on the cross, Choose to follow

Nothing in there about understanding the Bible, right?

diva betsy ross  posted on  2011-04-03   23:43:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#205. To: A K A Stone (#201)

I heard that Mudboy managed to get back on FreeRepublic again. Maybe that's the reason Doug From Upland decided to get back into the song parody business himself (Mainly on YouTube though) I'm thinking about getting back into it too.

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Coral Snake  posted on  2011-04-03   23:44:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#206. To: Coral Snake (#205)

But what about Bites?

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-04-03   23:48:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#207. To: All (#206)

Or if not bites. How about "Coral Snakes Venom"? That has a nice ring to it.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-04-03   23:49:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#208. To: A K A Stone (#201)

Sorry but the info I had on FR and Mudboy is wrong unless he is posting under another name. His last post there was in 2005, the year of his banning there.

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Coral Snake  posted on  2011-04-03   23:50:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#209. To: Godwinson (#199) (Edited)

What? Jesus never said that I should not pay taxes, that I owe, to the US government. He said give God what is God's and Ceaser what is Ceaser's. God doesn't care about money. I am told to store my treasures in Heaven- meaning, money does not feed my spirit and is not eternal.

I am told to accept the authority over me, if that authority is placed by God.

God cares about obedience, not taxes. Knowing that we can not be perfectly obedient, he gives us salvation- so we can keep trying. He rewards the diligent. Diligently trying.

diva betsy ross  posted on  2011-04-03   23:59:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#210. To: A K A Stone (#207)

I'm thinking of giving the "Progressive" donkey award (the replacement for the bites) to Goldi-Lox this week for the rediculous performance she put on at LibertyPost in order to make it a yukon GAYstapo only "progressive" Neo-CON site. and for the blank payee line check Faro bankathon. I think she probably picked up the idea from Jim Rob. He is also having his Faro Bankathon running.

By the way some of Goldi's yukon GAYstapo people are here and I'm going to send you a list of them over LFmail soon. I think these SPIES are greatly responsible for the run of bannings that have occured at LP. (By spying on this site, Robin's Site and 4um for anti Goldi and anti El Pee posters that also post at El Pee.

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Coral Snake  posted on  2011-04-03   23:59:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#211. To: Rek (#180)

Only if you one can charge for the fishing lessons. Why should teachers always be the one's to give away the product of their labor? This is a capitalist nation. Yee Haw!!! Pay up or starve.

Take heart, there is the fishing pole, and line to buy along with reel, hooks, weights, and tackle box.

You have the courage to tell the masses what no politician told them: you are inferior and all the improvements in your conditions which you simply take for granted you owe to the efforts of men who are better than you. Ludwig von Mises in a letter to Ayn Rand

lucysmom  posted on  2011-04-04   0:01:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#212. To: Coral Snake (#210)

CS, I'm allegedly not banned on elPee.

Goldi gave me a one month time out. Let's see if she is honest in a month.

You've got a good point there about the GAYstapo.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-04-04   0:07:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#213. To: A K A Stone (#195)

What about the men who died with Christ on the cross? They didn't read the Bible. What did Jesus say about them?

Why would they need to read the Bible when they knew the author?

You have the courage to tell the masses what no politician told them: you are inferior and all the improvements in your conditions which you simply take for granted you owe to the efforts of men who are better than you. Ludwig von Mises in a letter to Ayn Rand

lucysmom  posted on  2011-04-04   0:15:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#214. To: lucysmom (#213)

Why would they need to read the Bible when they knew the author?

Don't get me wrong. As a christian. You should read and study the Bible. But you can get there through word of mouth too.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-04-04   0:17:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#215. To: Fred Mertz (#212)

CS, I'm allegedly not banned on elPee.

Goldi gave me a one month time out. Let's see if she is honest in a month.

You've got a good point there about the GAYstapo.

I think their allegiance to each other is related more to being of a common religion.

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Rek  posted on  2011-04-04   0:18:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#216. To: Rek (#215)

harrowup claims he is Jewish, so you might be onto something.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-04-04   0:37:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#217. To: A K A Stone (#214)

Don't get me wrong. As a christian. You should read and study the Bible. But you can get there through word of mouth too.

I agree. In my experience, when people are born again they want to read the Bible and know more.

My remark was specific to the two thieves who were crucified with Jesus.

You have the courage to tell the masses what no politician told them: you are inferior and all the improvements in your conditions which you simply take for granted you owe to the efforts of men who are better than you. Ludwig von Mises in a letter to Ayn Rand

lucysmom  posted on  2011-04-04   0:48:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#218. To: diva betsy ross (#209)

What? Jesus never said that I should not pay taxes, that I owe, to the US government. He said give God what is God's and Ceaser what is Ceaser's. God doesn't care about money. I am told to store my treasures in Heaven- meaning, money does not feed my spirit and is not eternal.

I am told to accept the authority over me, if that authority is placed by God.

Then you should not have any problems with socialism.

"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-04-04   0:50:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#219. To: lucysmom (#173) (Edited)

see you need a set of rules to define things; I prefer to be free to think outside the box.

Libtard rule #8). What I think and what I say sure be proof enough for you, I don’t need facts!!!

There, that about cover it.....

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CZ82  posted on  2011-04-04   6:30:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#220. To: Godwinson (#218)

I do have a problem with socialism. I think it is pure evil. Paying taxes is not socialism.

I agree that the current tax structure is socialism. I agree that Obama is a socialist.

I believe Obama is evil, and I didn't vote for him. But I do have to pay my taxes still, and work to get rid of Obama- in all the ways that are legal... because that is how the cookie crumbles.

diva betsy ross  posted on  2011-04-04   8:55:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#221. To: diva betsy ross (#220)

I do have a problem with socialism. I think it is pure evil.

Then please return your social security money. Or give it away.

"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-04-04   9:28:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#222. To: CZ82, lucysmom (#219)

Libtard

Libtard = Libertarian Retards.

"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-04-04   9:28:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#223. To: Godwinson, CZ82 (#222)

Libtard = Libertarian Retards.

Definition: Libertarians promoting socialist government support for their programs. Also known as Libertarian Paternalists.

You have the courage to tell the masses what no politician told them: you are inferior and all the improvements in your conditions which you simply take for granted you owe to the efforts of men who are better than you. Ludwig von Mises in a letter to Ayn Rand

lucysmom  posted on  2011-04-04   10:53:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#224. To: lucysmomGodwinson, CZ82, (#223) (Edited)

Libtard = Libertarian Retards.

It's also the new Dittohead password. Sorry I messed up the names in the "to" box.

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Rek  posted on  2011-04-04   10:58:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#225. To: Godwinson (#222)

Libtard = Libertarian Retards.

So are you a member of that party or the other Libtard party (Liberal Retards)??

"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning

CZ82  posted on  2011-04-04   15:02:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#226. To: CZ82 (#225)

So are you a member of that party or the other Libtard party (Liberal Retards)??

I quite the Republican party and I will never join another party. With that said, of the two party the GOP party is now the domain of know-nothing slogan spouting ditto headed dupes like yourself.

"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-04-04   15:48:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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