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Title: Nation of Takers, Not Makers~more work for govt. than manufacturing, farming, fishing, forestry, mining & utilities combined
Source: WSJ
URL Source: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB100 ... 4050204576219073867182108.html
Published: Apr 1, 2011
Author: STEPHEN MOORE
Post Date: 2011-04-01 09:06:01 by Happy Quanzaa
Keywords: Obama-doma-ding-dong
Views: 192976
Comments: 226

We've Become a Nation of Takers, Not Makers

More Americans work for the government than in manufacturing, farming, fishing, forestry, mining and utilities combined.

If you want to understand better why so many states—from New York to Wisconsin to California—are teetering on the brink of bankruptcy, consider this depressing statistic: Today in America there are nearly twice as many people working for the government (22.5 million) than in all of manufacturing (11.5 million). This is an almost exact reversal of the situation in 1960, when there were 15 million workers in manufacturing and 8.7 million collecting a paycheck from the government.

It gets worse. More Americans work for the government than work in construction, farming, fishing, forestry, manufacturing, mining and utilities combined. We have moved decisively from a nation of makers to a nation of takers. Nearly half of the $2.2 trillion cost of state and local governments is the $1 trillion-a-year tab for pay and benefits of state and local employees. Is it any wonder that so many states and cities cannot pay their bills?

Every state in America today except for two—Indiana and Wisconsin—has more government workers on the payroll than people manufacturing industrial goods. Consider California, which has the highest budget deficit in the history of the states. The not-so Golden State now has an incredible 2.4 million government employees—twice as many as people at work in manufacturing. New Jersey has just under two-and-a-half as many government employees as manufacturers. Florida's ratio is more than 3 to 1. So is New York's.

Even Michigan, at one time the auto capital of the world, and Pennsylvania, once the steel capital, have more government bureaucrats than people making things. The leaders in government hiring are Wyoming and New Mexico, which have hired more than six government workers for every manufacturing worker.

Now it is certainly true that many states have not typically been home to traditional manufacturing operations. Iowa and Nebraska are farm states, for example. But in those states, there are at least five times more government workers than farmers. West Virginia is the mining capital of the world, yet it has at least three times more government workers than miners. New York is the financial capital of the world—at least for now. That sector employs roughly 670,000 New Yorkers. That's less than half of the state's 1.48 million government employees.

Don't expect a reversal of this trend anytime soon. Surveys of college graduates are finding that more and more of our top minds want to work for the government. Why? Because in recent years only government agencies have been hiring, and because the offer of near lifetime security is highly valued in these times of economic turbulence. When 23-year-olds aren't willing to take career risks, we have a real problem on our hands. Sadly, we could end up with a generation of Americans who want to work at the Department of Motor Vehicles.

The employment trends described here are explained in part by hugely beneficial productivity improvements in such traditional industries as farming, manufacturing, financial services and telecommunications. These produce far more output per worker than in the past. The typical farmer, for example, is today at least three times more productive than in 1950.

Where are the productivity gains in government? Consider a core function of state and local governments: schools. Over the period 1970-2005, school spending per pupil, adjusted for inflation, doubled, while standardized achievement test scores were flat. Over roughly that same time period, public-school employment doubled per student, according to a study by researchers at the University of Washington. That is what economists call negative productivity.

But education is an industry where we measure performance backwards: We gauge school performance not by outputs, but by inputs. If quality falls, we say we didn't pay teachers enough or we need smaller class sizes or newer schools. If education had undergone the same productivity revolution that manufacturing has, we would have half as many educators, smaller school budgets, and higher graduation rates and test scores.

The same is true of almost all other government services. Mass transit spends more and more every year and yet a much smaller share of Americans use trains and buses today than in past decades. One way that private companies spur productivity is by firing underperforming employees and rewarding excellence. In government employment, tenure for teachers and near lifetime employment for other civil servants shields workers from this basic system of reward and punishment. It is a system that breeds mediocrity, which is what we've gotten.

Most reasonable steps to restrain public-sector employment costs are smothered by the unions. Study after study has shown that states and cities could shave 20% to 40% off the cost of many services—fire fighting, public transportation, garbage collection, administrative functions, even prison operations—through competitive contracting to private providers. But unions have blocked many of those efforts. Public employees maintain that they are underpaid relative to equally qualified private-sector workers, yet they are deathly afraid of competitive bidding for government services.

President Obama says we have to retool our economy to "win the future." The only way to do that is to grow the economy that makes things, not the sector that takes things.

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#148. To: Liberator (#143)

I didn't have to "enter" any conservation you're involved in to know how it begins and how it ends - at the tip of a bong.

Like I said, you are yukon clone.

"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-04-03   18:34:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#149. To: Godwinson (#148)

Like I said, you are yukon clone.

THAT was cruel.

Liberator  posted on  2011-04-03   18:41:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#150. To: All (#0)

FOOD FOR THOUGHT

All men are created equal under god, or at least that's what I've always heard.. TRUE OR FALSE?????

So if man was created to be equal then why don't they choose to be equal..... Why is it some men choose to be all they can be and some choose to do nothing...

Maybe it's because some have pride, integrity, honesty, honor, strong morals, strength of character and other such good ideals(PRODUCTIVE). And some men have no clue what those concepts are, in fact I don't think they want to know (NONPRODUCTIVE).

The PRODUCTIVE one's have no problem making a living for themselves and their families, the NONPRODUCTIVE ones can't and don't even try, instead they want a handout......

My question is why do Liberals feel "compassion" (or so they say) for NONPRODUCTIVE people and feel scorn for PRODUCTIVE ones .......why is that????? Is it maybe because they are part of the NONPRODUCTIVE group themselves.... Is it because they hate themselves, their lives and anybody who accidently comes into contact with them??? Is it because they want to feel good about themselves so they try to make you feel bad about yourself..... Is that the real reason why they try to shame the PRODUCTIVE ones into thinking it's their duty to "bankroll" the NONPRODUCTIVE ones...... By telling them they are being discrimatory towards them or being racist towards them....... when it was the choice of the NONPRODUCTIVE ones to be NONPRODUCTIVE.....

On the other hand if the Liberals are actually PRODUCTIVE themselves, then why do they think it's up to everybody else to help the NONPRODUCTIVE ones while they do nothing about it?????? Why don't "THEY" bankroll the NONPRODUCTIVE ones and leave everybody else out of it??????? And if they are actually PRODUCTIVE then why in the hell would they want to be a Liberal???? they are only screwing themselves......

I guess some things are better left unknown, that's why I don't try to figure out what stupid people are thinking. If I understand what they are thinking, then it makes me just as stupid as they are.......

"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning

CZ82  posted on  2011-04-03   18:42:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#151. To: Liberator (#149)

Truth hurts. You are known by the company you keep. From what I can see from a casual recall of the LP comments record, you are one of those confederates on LP that make that place what it is.

"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-04-03   18:43:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#152. To: Liberator (#145)

Loooo-seee! It's you and the Left who live-by-the-slogan. And "read Mao's little red book."

Two slogans that immediately come to mind are:

"The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'"

"Corporations don't pay taxes! People do!"

Who on the left enforces party discipline like Grover Norquist?

I don't belong to an organized party - I'm a Democrat Will Rogers

You have the courage to tell the masses what no politician told them: you are inferior and all the improvements in your conditions which you simply take for granted you owe to the efforts of men who are better than you. Ludwig von Mises in a letter to Ayn Rand

lucysmom  posted on  2011-04-03   18:46:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#153. To: Godwinson (#151) (Edited)

You are known by the company you keep.

Gee, thanks Confucius. What's your next fortune cookie say?

From what I can see from a casual recall of the LP comments record, you are one of those confederates on LP that make that place what it is.

Keep on doing your research, kid.

Liberator  posted on  2011-04-03   18:47:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#154. To: CZ82 (#150)

FOOD FOR THOUGHT

You flatter yourself.

You have the courage to tell the masses what no politician told them: you are inferior and all the improvements in your conditions which you simply take for granted you owe to the efforts of men who are better than you. Ludwig von Mises in a letter to Ayn Rand

lucysmom  posted on  2011-04-03   18:50:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#155. To: lucysmom (#152)

Two slogans that immediately come to mind are:

"The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'"

That's Reagan ridiculing Big Goobermint. NOT a slogan.

Corporations don't pay taxes! People do!"

Never heard of it. THIS is a conservative "slogan"?? I'd better start going to our meetings.

Who on the left enforces party discipline like Grover Norquist?

The entire Left is one giant monolithic Nuremberg rally.

Norquist is a NWO elite and RINO slob.

I don't belong to an organized party - I'm a Democrat Will Rogers

You're living in a time warp Lucy, arencha? The Democrat Party of the 1930s wasn't yet the Communist Party it was to became 50 years later.

Liberator  posted on  2011-04-03   18:55:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#156. To: Liberator (#155)

Norquist is a NWO elite and RINO slob.

Right now he's holding California hostage.

You have the courage to tell the masses what no politician told them: you are inferior and all the improvements in your conditions which you simply take for granted you owe to the efforts of men who are better than you. Ludwig von Mises in a letter to Ayn Rand

lucysmom  posted on  2011-04-03   19:01:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#157. To: Godwinson (#147) (Edited)

To any reasonable person, Hassett is an American rightist/conservative/Republican.

And who was asenior fellow at AEI, until his death is 09?

Irving Kristol.

Some AEI scholars are considered to be some of the leading architects of the second Bush administration's public policy.[7] More than twenty AEI scholars and fellows served either in a Bush administration policy post or on one of the government's many panels and commissions. Among the prominent former government officials now affiliated with AEI are former U.S. ambassador to the U.N. John Bolton, now an AEI senior fellow; former chairman of the National Endowment for the Humanities; Lynne Cheney, a longtime AEI senior fellow; former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, now an AEI senior fellow; former Dutch member of parliament Ayaan Hirsi Ali, an AEI visiting fellow; and former deputy secretary of defense Paul Wolfowitz, now an AEI visiting scholar. Other prominent individuals affiliated with AEI include Kevin Hassett, Frederick W. Kagan, Leon Kass, Charles Murray, Michael Novak, Norman J. Ornstein, Richard Perle, Radek Sikorski, Christina Hoff Sommers, and Peter J. Wallison.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Enterprise_Institute

Now make fun of wiki again, then go read up and learn the difference between a neoconservative and a conservative.

We The People  posted on  2011-04-03   19:15:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#158. To: Godwinson (#147)

Since I left the American conservative movement

Oh please....

We The People  posted on  2011-04-03   19:17:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#159. To: We The People (#158)

Since I left the American conservative movement Oh please....

Maybe you are right....the American conservative movement left me. Now you on the American right are a collection of kooks and cranks.

"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-04-03   19:31:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#160. To: Godwinson (#159)

Now you on the American right are a collection of kooks and cranks.

But we're not socialists, like you leftists and the neoconservatives.

We The People  posted on  2011-04-03   20:08:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#161. To: We The People (#160)

But we're not socialists, like you leftists and the neoconservatives.

I don't support America's military anything. I find nothing wrong with Socialism in moderation having visited Canada and Europe for much of my life.

I don't see the American experiment of the last 40 years expanding the uppward mobility of the population. Right now there is more upward mobility in England than in the USA.

"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-04-03   20:31:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#162. To: Godwinson (#161)

I find nothing wrong with Socialism in moderation having visited Canada and Europe for much of my life.

So go live in Canada or Europe!

We The People  posted on  2011-04-03   20:33:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#163. To: We The People (#162)

So go live in Canada or Europe!

I do and can. But your response is what I can expect from the degraded American right wing.

"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-04-03   20:42:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#164. To: Godwinson (#163)

But your response is what I can expect from the degraded American right wing.

Damned straight Stalin.

Americans don't want a socialist country. Why is that so hard for you leftists to understand?

We The People  posted on  2011-04-03   20:43:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#165. To: We The People (#164)

Damned straight Stalin.

I prefer Bismark.

"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-04-03   20:47:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#166. To: Godwinson (#165)

I prefer capitalism.

The vast majority of Americans do also.

We The People  posted on  2011-04-03   20:48:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#167. To: We The People (#166)

I prefer capitalism.

LOL - you mean your imaginary version of capitalism that only ever existed in a text book and not in the real world.

"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-04-03   21:12:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#168. To: Godwinson (#167)

I prefer capitalism.

LOL - you mean your imaginary version of capitalism that only ever existed in a text book and not in the real world.

Yeah, that one.

:o)

We The People  posted on  2011-04-03   21:15:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#169. To: lucysmom (#154)

You flatter yourself.

I don't have to do that, I'm not a Liberal......

Libtard rule #11). I don’t want to know the truth, it’s inconvenient....

"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning

CZ82  posted on  2011-04-03   21:18:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#170. To: Happy Quanzaa (#0)

Well, that is socialism for you. It never works. Not even the creator of socialism thought it was a really good idea for reality. Only the people who lack even the smallest amounts of courage , are the ones who line up for their "death by government protection".

diva betsy ross  posted on  2011-04-03   21:32:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#171. To: Godwinson, We The People (#167)

I prefer capitalism.

LOL - you mean your imaginary version of capitalism that only ever existed in a text book and not in the real world.

Ironic, the term "capitalism" was coined by Marx.

You have the courage to tell the masses what no politician told them: you are inferior and all the improvements in your conditions which you simply take for granted you owe to the efforts of men who are better than you. Ludwig von Mises in a letter to Ayn Rand

lucysmom  posted on  2011-04-03   21:38:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#172. To: diva betsy ross (#170)

Only the people who lack even the smallest amounts of courage , are the ones who line up for their "death by government protection".

Wow, that must be why everyone over 65 in this country dies.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-04-03   21:40:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#173. To: CZ82 (#169)

Libtard rule #11). I don’t want to know the truth, it’s inconvenient....

I see you need a set of rules to define things; I prefer to be free to think outside the box.

You have the courage to tell the masses what no politician told them: you are inferior and all the improvements in your conditions which you simply take for granted you owe to the efforts of men who are better than you. Ludwig von Mises in a letter to Ayn Rand

lucysmom  posted on  2011-04-03   21:40:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#174. To: diva betsy ross, Happy Quanzaa, lucysmom, Skip Intro (#170)

Not even the creator of socialism thought it was a really good idea for reality

The creator of socialism? Oh, you mean Jesus Christ.

"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-04-03   21:55:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#175. To: Godwinson (#174)

The creator of socialism? Oh, you mean Jesus Christ.

Wasn't he the one who said teach a man to fish rather than give him a fish?

***Naturally perfect and humble by default.***

harrowup  posted on  2011-04-03   21:57:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#176. To: Godwinson (#174)

lol- that is one of the most uneducated things I have read. Funny- but totally uneducated.

diva betsy ross  posted on  2011-04-03   21:59:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#177. To: harrowup (#175)

Wasn't he the one who said teach a man to fish rather than give him a fish?

No, it's a Chinese proverb.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-04-03   22:05:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#178. To: diva betsy ross (#176)

lol- that is one of the most uneducated things I have read.

You must not read much of your stuff.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-04-03   22:06:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#179. To: Skip Intro (#177)

No, it's a Chinese proverb.

Thanks; I got curious after writing that and looked it up on Bing and that was the first hit. Further down was suggestion that Marx was quoted as saying somehting similar but debunked.

The one I liked however was:

Feed a man a fish and he eats it; teach a man to fish and he sits in a boat all day drinking beer.

***Naturally perfect and humble by default.***

harrowup  posted on  2011-04-03   22:12:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#180. To: harrowup (#175) (Edited)

Wasn't he the one who said teach a man to fish rather than give him a fish?

Only if you one can charge for the fishing lessons. Why should teachers always be the one's to give away the product of their labor? This is a capitalist nation. Yee Haw!!! Pay up or starve.

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Rek  posted on  2011-04-03   22:14:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#181. To: harrowup (#179)

The one I liked however was:

Feed a man a fish and he eats it; teach a man to fish and he sits in a boat all day drinking beer.

The Chinese never came up with that one. That sounds All-American to me.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-04-03   22:14:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#182. To: harrowup, diva betsy ross, Skip Intro, lucysmom (#175)

The creator of socialism? Oh, you mean Jesus Christ.

Wasn't he the one who said teach a man to fish rather than give him a fish?

I find it funny Republicans, who advocate offshoring to China mix up Chinese sayings with those of Jesus Christ.

Here is what the Lord of hosts had to say:

Look at the birds of the air; they do not sow or reap or store away in barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Matthew 6:26

Also

So do not worry, saying, ‘What shall we eat?’ or ‘What shall we drink?’ or ‘What shall we wear?’ For the pagans run after all these things, and your heavenly Father knows that you need them. But seek first his kingdom and his righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well. Matthew 6:31-33

Man, Jesus was not into giving stuff away and no mention of toiling away at working at worldy things. I mean Jesus made men walk away from working good paying jobs! And said pay all your taxes without complaint!!!

"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-04-03   22:25:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#183. To: Rek, harrowup (#180)

Only if you one can charge for the fishing lessons. Why should teachers always be the one's to give away the product of their labor? This is a capitalist nation. Yee Haw!!! Pay up or starve.

Jesus had men who already knew how to fish for a living leave their jobs,,,,,,

"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-04-03   22:27:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#184. To: Godwinson (#182) (Edited)

It is an unfortunate truth, but a truth nonetheless, that the Bible is not a book for unbelievers. Until you are born again, the Bible's lessons are not for you.

That is why it is completely silly that unbelievers hold the Bible out as an explanation for anything.

You may as well cite a speed law in Virgina, in a discussion on the topic of the price of tea in China.

diva betsy ross  posted on  2011-04-03   22:31:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#185. To: diva betsy ross (#184)

He seems to know it better than you do, dingbat.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-04-03   22:34:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#186. To: Godwinson (#183)

Jesus had men who already knew how to fish for a living leave their jobs,,,,,,

I'd mention that Jesus didn't have a bad word to say about slavery either, but I'm not into discussing the Civil War tonight.

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Rek  posted on  2011-04-03   22:35:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#187. To: diva betsy ross (#184)

It is an unfortunate truth, but a truth nonetheless, that the Bible is not a book for unbelievers. Until you are born again, the Bible's lessons are not for you.

That makes no sense. How do you become born again if you haven't read the Bible?

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Rek  posted on  2011-04-03   22:38:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#188. To: Rek (#187)

That makes no sense. How do you become born again if you haven't read the Bible?

Thank you. This is why I call her dingbat.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-04-03   22:40:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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