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Title: Badeye - Why I Will Not Support the GOP in November
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URL Source: http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/ ... gi?ArtNum=155186&Disp=202#C202
Published: Aug 15, 2006
Author: badeye
Post Date: 2006-08-15 20:33:50 by TLBSHOW
Keywords: None
Views: 23583
Comments: 37
Since I became a member of Liberty Post dot org, I have been an unabashed supporter of the President, and generally the GOP, with an emphasis on conservative points of view. Anyone thats bothered to read my posts over the years knows this. Many have read my point of view on multiple websites since 1999 or so. Since the President's Second Inaugural, I've been routinely disappointed in his performance on a wide variety of issues. Those of you that can actually remain 'objective' have seen this. Pity there aren't more of you to be honest in this forum, but thats another rant for another time. Here's my view, and why I will not be supporting any Republican come November. (Yes, its really Badeye, and yes I'm DEAD SERIOUS). First off, Dubya. Where has the man that stood in the rubble of the World Trade Center gone? The man who rallied our nation, left or right, conservative or liberal, all races, all religious viewpoint with "I can hear you...the whole world can hear you...and very soon those that brought these buildings down will hear from us all!" Where did he go? Since his Second Inaugural, its become apparent to me he simply isn't listening, not even bothering to try. I appreciate not 'leading by the polls'. Hell, I expect that from My President no matter which party is in the Whitehouse. But that only applies to 'overnight' polling, maybe even monthly polling. Not a fully 18 months. How can I continue to support this President, that I voted for, and damn sure fought for in these forums, when he is obviously no longer listening to those with my viewpoint on border security? On federal spending? How is it he failed to win the debate for Social Security Reform, and blanched from making public the obvious, that those elected officials opposed to SS Reform had opted out of the program, are all multi millionaires in their own right, and will never require Social Security to put food on the table late in their lives? How is it my President has choosen to fight a world war, which I understand all to well is the challenge our generation must face head on as the famous so called 'greatest generation' did in the last recently concluded century...but not secure our borders? How can he look me in the eye in a prime time address, tell me 'the borders are out of control' and here we are five months later with nothing worth mentioning being done about it? How is it my President, who rallied us all at the WTC in the wake of 9/11, failed to react appropriately when notified Katrina was going to destroy approximately 90,000 square miles of Gulf Coast, including a major US city - New Orleans? Who told him 'stay on vacation'? Who told him to go to a fund raiser in San Diego? Why is my President conducting himself as Commander in Chief as a 'disconnected' LBJ? Baghdad should be a "Green Zone", completely and totally by now. If it requires we send an entire division currently stateside to Baghdad, go house to house, and kill every last terrorist, insurrectionist, and that punk al Sadr, so be it. We cannot afford to lose the fight for a free Iraq. If we do, Iran takes control of the entire oil rich Gulf, becoming an even bigger threat than Saddam would have in 1991 had we not blown his ass out of Kuwait. How is it my President hasn't veto'd a single spending bill, in particular the last one which featured 31,000 plus 'earmarks'? Where did the guy in the rubble of the World Trade Center go? The Republican House How is it the Republican House leadership has come to this? 31,000 plus earmarks. A Republican House Speaker that thinks congress members are Above The Law? And over a freaking DEMOCRAT to boot? WHAT?!!!! Will somebody please, please, PLEASE tell me when Dennis Hastert lost his MIND? And his ethical, moral, compass? Which now brings me to Rob Portman, and this is related to my President as well. Rob Portman was a great Representative for the Second District here in Ohio. My district. He's been taken and tossed into an abyss known as "US trade representative". He should have been in the primary this past spring to replace my idiot Senator Mike Dewine (see below). And now? I have Jean 'Not remotely ready for Prime Time' Schimdt, who almost lost a sold Republican district to a leftwingnut ambulance chaser named Paul Hackett. Last years Ned Lamont in other words. The Republican Senate I live in Ohio, as most of you know. My two Senators are allegedly Republicans. The one who says he will retire upon the end of his current term, Senator George Voinovich, CRIED over a United Nations Ambassador appointee? And then blocked him, helping the leftwingnuts on the Democrats side of the aisle? Voinovich also helped to keep the "Bush tax cuts' from becoming permanent, and has generally been an ongoing embarrassment to my State. He spent last week sleeping in the "Voinovich Barn' at the Ohio State Fair from what I understand (I'm not making that up). Then there is Mikey DeWine, an example of what happens when a person elected to office begins to think he's Entitled to hold the office. Besides his membership in the 'Gang of Fourteen' (the moment I decided I would never, ever, vote for him again) he's a gun grabber, and likes taxes. He's mean spirited to those ON HIS SIDE, and friendly to those that want his party to be destroyed, not just a 'minority'. His son is even worse, btw. Then we have Arlen Spector, Olympia Snowe, Lincoln Chaffee, and yes, the guy I distrust even more than those three, John McCain. Add to it Ted Stevens, who thinks putting on a juvenile comic book theme'd tie ENTITLES HIM to spend 250 Million Dollars on a 'bridge to no where', and I've lost all faith in that oh so exclusive 'club of one hundred'. Frist? Puleese. Billions were required to bribe him to overthrown Trent Lott's spineless Majority Leader tenure, the money going to a continent that despises America, and is dying due to gross, ingrained, ignorance - Africa. No amount of money will stop whats going to take place there as it relates to AIDS over the next decade. The GOP in Ohio Ohio is a perfect political storm now. Lets begin at the top, shall we? My Governor is Bob "Tax Em!' Taft. When he ran the first time, he pledged to sign a Concealed Weapons Law if he won. Result? He veto'd CCW TWICE. He finally signed off when it became clear he might not be reelected, but the law is written in such a way most of us, including myself, don't bother applying, choosing instead to "conceal carry' without registration as the situation dictates. He ran on 'fiscal responsible government' but increased the State budget even in the face of deficits. He ran on a campaign of 'no new taxes', then raised or created 115 new taxes on small businesses like the one I own here in Ohio. He oversaw a crony's theft of millions of dolalrs via the 'Coingate scandal'. He oversaw the BWC scandal. Then he plea bargained away a dozen indictments, including a felony, to a guilty plea to four misdemeanor charges, and refused to resign. At the same time, he's done everything he could to destroy one of the few remaining trustworthy Republicans in Ohio, Ken Blackwell. He allowed (yes allowed) his state AG James Petro to run the most overtly racist, hate filled primary campaign advertisements I've ever seen. Bob Taft's own gross mismanagement here in Ohio almost produced a John Kerry Presidency. In short, today I'm required to be 'thankful' his damage wasn't Worse. And when I was ready to open another small business, I did it in TEXAS, not Ohio. Nobody in their right mind would open a 'new business' here as things stand. So, where does this leave me, a long time Independent Conservative voter heading into the mid terms? I have concluded that we must risk Democrats controlling the House, and possibly the Senate, for the two remaining years of the Bush Presidency. I won't vote for any Democrat come fall going to Washington DC. I just can't do that. But I have come to the point where I realize the GOP leadership at the Federal and State level as it relates to me must be gutted, completely and totally. When proponents for 'my side' are reduced to saying "Don't wake up the day after the election to hear "Speaker Elect Nancy Pelosi, Senate Elect Majority Leader Harry Reid" sorry, thats not a Reason to Vote Republican. Its AN EXCUSE. I've never made 'excuses' for what I am in these forums. I'm damn proud of who I am, what I am, what I believe, and how I conduct myself personally, professionally, and publicly. I've never lied in these forums. I'm not about to start now. I will not support the Republican Party come November. My President that I voted for twice, proudly, and defend completely for six years in these forums isn't listening to me, or anyone I know to be blunt. Fine, Dubya, go the last two years alone. Last time I felt this way, I ended up voting for Ross Perot in 92. You might recall that race...since you've become your father in his only term as President from where I sit. Disconnnected from those of us that put you in the Whitehouse in the first place. Perhaps my President needs Nancy Pelosi stopping every Whitehouse policy dead in its trackes. Perhaps my President needs to live with John Conyers issuing subpeona's by the truck load, and then beginning Impeachment Proceedings. Maybe then MY PRESIDENT will snap the hell out of it, and listen to me. And those like me, that hired him TWICE. Defended him against all comers, day after day after day. Perhaps, but sadly...I doubt it. I suspect he'll blame me and 'mine' in the end.
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#1. To: BADEYE (#0)
Badeye, I know you won't see this.. but I'm cheering for you regardless. You hit the nail right on the head. Bravo!
he'll see it....
TLBSHOW cannot, or will not, converse with them
"Last time I felt this way, I ended up voting for Ross Perot in 92." And my my, didn't THAT turn out well? "You might recall that race...since you've become your father in his only term as President from where I sit. Disconnnected from those of us that put you in the Whitehouse in the first place." I've been making that point fer years now...Dubyuh is his daddy's son, not the Heir to Reaganism that this country so sorely needs...MUD
Question Conventional Wisdom!!
Uh-huh. Right. But that line excepted, if you are indeed serious with the position you claim, can't say I'm disappointed. Except for the part where you still don't see the Iraq invasion as a mistake. We've been telling you that for years and were called "blood dancers" for our efforts. We've predicted quite accurately the disaster that it has become, and we still don't get credit for it. Peace through world domination will fail. You, Bush, and a bunch of other "kill em all" war mongers still need to learn that.
by highlighting Bush's actions in Iraq and the notion that Democrats were weak in their approach to "foreign threats." http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/politics/la-na- assess10aug10,1,1642182.story?coll=la-news-politics-national&track=crosspromo
Al Jazeera news channel is now calling for the immediate release of a Fox News Channel correspondent
No, you were called blood dancers for dancing gleefully in the blood of US soldiers. You are misrepresenting events, which is a polite way of calling you a liar ... it leaves room for the possibility that you aren't capable of understanding.
One of these days, we must have a conversation in English.
"Be a patriot and a hero. Torture and kill a cop, before they do it to you---because they will." Michael E. Kreca Yes, evidenced by the posting of articles about US casualties. And nothing more. The accusation was uncalled for. No, I'm not a liar, but if you're going to call me that, why be polite? I was there. I know what happened. BE & company simply don't like it when the ugly side of war is on display. He, and I suppose you, prefer that reality to be kept hidden so you can have more fun cheering for your team. Easier to ignore the consequences of war. And people cheering for the deaths of US soldiers don't put up sites like this: http://bringemhome.org
Dismissal of the ugly side of war seems to be the only way war mongers can rationalize the basest of human endeavors. They stupidly assume that those they want to dominate will not become as savage as they in order to survive. Those who have made the same dumb assumption throughout history are all dead and historically ridiculed as will be those who presently persist in such insanity.
It would be more accurate to say repeatedly, single-mindedly posting any and every article about US casualties and using them as a banner to try and show that the war was wrong, meanwhile not caring about those soldiers just using their deaths to try to score points in an argument. And the glee was evident, as the deaths piled up. You and yours were only to glad to dance around, so happy you'd 'proved' your point that the war was wrong and the evil government was wrong ... dancing around in blood. Just in case, as I said, you weren't really lying but just to stupid to be able to discern the truth. I won't try to imagine what was going on in Badeye's pea-brain but it is disgusting to me when war becomes necessary and there are morons who not only refuse to help but actively work against the right side. Your type wasn't putting on the ugly side of war because you care about the people being killed, however. That's why you twits put up sites like http://bringemhome.org, cause you don't care who gets killed you'll just go along with any anti-government thing that's going. You put up sites like that because you are deranged and think that anything you can do that is against the government is worth doing no matter what it is.
The only thing that bothers me about the precious troops getting killed is that they're wasting my precious tax dollars.
"Be a patriot and a hero. Torture and kill a cop, before they do it to you---because they will." Michael E. Kreca Yes well. Perhaps they do it because they believe the truly deranged will do anything to promote war for political profit. It's beginning to seem that way to me also.
It's worth considering, as are most ideas, but not for very long before it gets discarded on the ash heap of lame beliefs. They believe it because it reinforces their current beliefs not because they have thought it through.
Well, "current beliefs" are now being questioned daily. One does not now have to think much to realize the obviously stupid antics of the lazy, simple-minded political elites are a ploy to garner power over what they perceive as their flock of shearable sheeple. Historically, such morons, were not afforded ample opportunity to contaminate the gene pool; hopefully, that trend will continue.
Well.... so far so good. A fine line there. It's perfectly legit to show their deaths to prove the invasion was wrong. Your ability to discern whether there was care is extrodinary. Well, I think we did prove it was wrong. Or rather, the Iraqi insurgency did. But no there was no dancing. But you just have to project some kind of fault with us any way you can because you now can't stand the thought of being wrong when it comes to thousands of American dead and 10's of thousands wounded, not to mention the far greater deaths among the Iraqis. All done for their benefit of course. I agree. But this war was not necessary. Your remaining rant isn't worth repeating it's so screwy.
Not really. It was easy to see. It wasn't wrong. It might fail but it wasn't wrong. I'm still hoping the whole thing works out. Nothing's been proven yet. Yes it was, and is. Yeah, well the longer I go on the less sense I make. ... still think I'm right about everything though.
Not true at all. I'm wrong plenty of times and always admit it.
Right!!
It'll take a generation or two before we can tell if it was for the better. We may never know for sure.
Nope. The number of deaths doesn't indicate if it was the right thing to do.
Really? When you're wrong about publicly advocating a strategy that has meant the death of tens of thousands of innocent people, admitting you were wrong isn't supposed to be so easy. Perhaps that's why you still hold out some spark of hope that the invasion was a moral and justified act of the USA. It was and is a disaster. When will the war-mongers learn that you just can't go around shooting and bombing people in Iraq or anywhere else without expecting repercusions?
That doesn't mean it's wrong to point out the deaths. Face it 82. You just don't want to hear or admit the price of war.
Why not? If you're wrong, you're wrong. No point in pretending. It makes it easier if your self-worth isn't wrapped up in what people think of you -- not saying yours is, of course, since there's no way I could know, so that wasn't a personal remark. Real life isn't that simple. Sometimes you have to assess the situation and decide what to do and then do it. Later you can figure out if it was worth it, but for the real complicated issues of life often you just have to act on what seems best at the time -- real problems can't be solved like a grade 3 math question. I hold out hope that the invasion works and don't think much about whether it was moral and justified. It was time to kick ass. And when you start kicking ass you'd better keep going until it's done or things just get worse than before (and that wouldn't be moral or justified). Where's your source of info for that pronouncement. There are very few sources of truth out there, both sides slant heavily. I see nothing but spin and outright lying on your side ... but maybe that's my bias. Don't think so, though. Repercusions aren't a sign that the war was wrong. You have to balance the repercusions against what you expect will happen if you don't go to war. When going to war is more beneficial than not going to war then it's time to fight. It's always going to be nasty Neil, that's not an indicator of whether it was the right thing to do. Things were already nasty -- expectations were it was going to get worse and something had to be done about it. Here's where you say the nastiness was caused by the US in the first place ...
As far as making sure everyone knows the cost of the war, I agree. It's a fine line between that and using the death for your own purposes. I think NAFV and her supporters were way over that line. If I was going to commit to war I wouldn't want it in my face because it might make me stop doing what I know should be done, but I would certainly take it into account beforehand.
Pure clown.
"Be a patriot and a hero. Torture and kill a cop, before they do it to you---because they will." Michael E. Kreca Don't forget to alert TLBSHOW. Oh, I see you did ... nevermind.
Well, I've been calling it a grave mistake since the moment I heard the invasion was going to happen which was several months before the event. And everything I expected has come to pass. I guess not. That's genocide talk. Every news source reporting on Iraq. Actually they are.
We've probably run out of stuff to talk about. But, hey, I was thinking of changing my screen name to ContinentalDontAskDontTell. Thoughts?
lol. You're vendetta is getting boring, coward.
"Be a patriot and a hero. Torture and kill a cop, before they do it to you---because they will." Michael E. Kreca Being one that is labeled a "blood-dancer" by your ilk, I'm not sure I would characterize it as "gleefully" posting US casualties but rest assured, I still have my "dancing shoes" on...indeed! I hope you see my posts on the several forums I post this news. BTW, current death count of US military deaths in Iraq stands at 2603.
Ha! The only count you're more interested in is the view count on the 'news' you post. That was hilarious on free4scum when you were stamped your feet and scolded everyone for not reading and discussing your posts!!! I loved that! "This is not a news forum and never will be"!! What a fucking baby. Dipshit. Indeed!!
I didn't 'stamp' my feet, I stomped them. It was one of my better non-news posts to the forum, indeed! I also pulled such a stunt in my early days on LP, you know the good ole days when Neil was still around, and it was quite effective.
Neil: Uh-huh. Right. Blast from the past!
Amusing read. I still haven't lied in these forums, and Neil's still my bitch.....(laughing) Goldi wasn't thrilled when I told him that at LP years ago, but she let it stay up, I suppose to this very day. I'd look for it, but it takes hours to go back to 2003 or later, then read through it even narrowed down. funny brian s seems to have lost his interest in combat deaths since....oh, I suppose Janury of 09....
my anti groupie can't get through life without me.
Hell...rereading it again, I was Tea Party before Tea Party was cool... (laughing) And I think I had McIver on filter.... And this was posted on Hannity's website. And it rebuts the ridiculous claim I was a 'bushbot', that I 'only support the GOP" The only Republican I voted for that year was Blackwell for governor. I'll always believe if not for Taft's scandals, and then his and the other country club Ohio Republicans actively working behind the scenes AGAINST HIM, he would have won. Strickland was a horrible candidate, ran a vanilla race, and as the record shows wasn't up to the job. Kaisch should wipe the floor with him.
my anti groupie can't get through life without me.
Did you see ferret's back at LP as True_Progressive. He's such a boring poster.
So why do you bother soiling this site with your vacuous and inane commentary? ... yukon haha lots of laughing out loud
Yeah I saw that. I thought it was buckeroo.
#2. To: Jhoffa_ (#1)
#3. To: TLBSHOW (#0)
#4. To: TLBSHOW (#0)
I've never lied in these forums.
#5. To: Neil McIver (#4)
do you think its a landslide for republicans in november?
#6. To: Neil McIver (#4)
We've been telling you that for years and were called "blood dancers" for our efforts.
Don't ask me, I'm not tellin'!!
#7. To: 82DontAskDontTell89 (#6)
#8. To: 82DontAskDontTell89 (#6)
No, you were called blood dancers for dancing gleefully in the blood of US soldiers.
#9. To: Neil McIver (#8)
BE & company simply don't like it when the ugly side of war is on display.
#10. To: Neil McIver (#8)
Yes, evidenced by the posting of articles about US casualties.
No, I'm not a liar, but if you're going to call me that, why be polite?
BE & company simply don't like it when the ugly side of war is on display.
Don't ask me, I'm not tellin'!!
#11. To: 82DontAskDontTell89 (#10)
That's why you twits put up sites like http://bringemhome.org, cause you don't care who gets killed you'll just go along with any anti-government thing that's going.
#12. To: 82DontAskDontTell89 (#10)
You put up sites like that because you are deranged and think that anything you can do that is against the government is worth doing no matter what it is.
#13. To: eskimo (#12)
... they believe the truly deranged will do anything to promote war for political profit.
Don't ask me, I'm not tellin'!!
#14. To: 82DontAskDontTell89 (#13)
It's worth considering, as are most ideas, but not for very long before it gets discarded on the ash heap of lame beliefs. They believe it because it reinforces their current beliefs not because they have thought it through.
#15. To: 82DontAskDontTell89 (#10)
(Edited)
It would be more accurate to say repeatedly, single-mindedly posting any and every article about US casualties and using them as a banner to try and show that the war was wrong
meanwhile not caring about those soldiers just using their deaths to try to score points in an argument.
And the glee was evident, as the deaths piled up. You and yours were only to glad to dance around, so happy you'd 'proved' your point that the war was wrong and the evil government was wrong ... dancing around in blood.
I won't try to imagine what was going on in Badeye's pea-brain but it is disgusting to me when war becomes necessary and there are morons who not only refuse to help but actively work against the right side.
Your type wasn't putting on the ugly side of war because you care about the people being killed, ....
#16. To: Neil McIver (#15)
(Edited)
Your ability to discern whether there was care is extrodinary.
Well, I think we did prove it was wrong.
But this war was not necessary.
Your remaining rant isn't worth repeating it's so screwy.
Don't ask me, I'm not tellin'!!
#17. To: Neil McIver (#15)
... because you now can't stand the thought of being wrong ...
Don't ask me, I'm not tellin'!!
#18. To: 82DontAskDontTell89 (#16)
It wasn't wrong. It might fail but it wasn't wrong. I'm still hoping the whole thing works out. Nothing's been proven yet.
#19. To: eskimo (#18)
Don't ask me, I'm not tellin'!!
#20. To: Neil McIver (#15)
It's perfectly legit to show their deaths to prove the invasion was wrong.
Don't ask me, I'm not tellin'!!
#21. To: 82DontAskDontTell89 (#17)
... because you now can't stand the thought of being wrong ...
Not true at all. I'm wrong plenty of times and always admit it.
#22. To: 82DontAskDontTell89 (#20)
Nope. The number of deaths doesn't indicate if it was the right thing to do.
#23. To: Neil McIver (#21)
When you're wrong about publicly advocating a strategy that has meant the death of tens of thousands of innocent people, admitting you were wrong isn't supposed to be so easy.
Perhaps that's why you still hold out some spark of hope that the invasion was a moral and justified act of the USA.
It was and is a disaster.
When will the war-mongers learn that you just can't go around shooting and bombing people in Iraq or anywhere else without expecting repercusions?
Don't ask me, I'm not tellin'!!
#24. To: Neil McIver (#22)
That doesn't mean it's wrong to point out the deaths.
Face it 82. You just don't want to hear or admit the price of war.
Don't ask me, I'm not tellin'!!
#25. To: 82DontAskDontTell89, A K A Stone, TLBSHOW (#24)
#26. To: continental op (#25)
Don't ask me, I'm not tellin'!!
#27. To: 82DontAskDontTell89 (#23)
Real life isn't that simple. Sometimes you have to assess the situation and decide what to do and then do it. Later you can figure out if it was worth it, but for the real complicated issues of life often you just have to act on what seems best at the time --
I hold out hope that the invasion works and don't think much about whether it was moral and justified.
It was time to kick ass. And when you start kicking ass you'd better keep going until it's done or things just get worse than before (and that wouldn't be moral or justified).
It was and is a disaster.
Where's your source of info for that pronouncement.
Repercusions aren't a sign that the war was wrong.
#28. To: Neil McIver (#27)
Don't ask me, I'm not tellin'!!
#29. To: 82DontAskDontTell89 (#28)
#30. To: 82DontAskDontTell89 (#6)
No, you were called blood dancers for dancing gleefully in the blood of US soldiers.
#31. To: Brian S (#30)
(Edited)
Don't ask me, I'm not tellin'!!
#32. To: 82DontAskDontTell89 (#31)
when you were stamped your feet
#33. To: Neil McIver (#4)
Badeye: I've never lied in these forums.
#34. To: Fred Mertz (#33)
#35. To: Fred Mertz (#33)
#36. To: Fred Mertz (#33)
#37. To: Abu el Banat (#36)
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