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Title: Packing heat: A God-ordained right
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URL Source: http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=278673
Published: Mar 24, 2011
Author: Charl van Wyk
Post Date: 2011-03-24 16:55:12 by Mad Dog
Keywords: be afraid heathen, be VERY, AFRAID
Views: 16311
Comments: 20

On July 25, 1993, Azanian Peoples' Liberation Army cadres attacked St. James Church in Cape Town, South Africa; I returned fire to protect innocent lives.

I have been criticized as having used the St. James attack to justify my personal theology – that Christians must defend themselves.

I argue that this is most definitely not my "personal theology" but is historically the theology of mainline Christianity. In fact, it is those who do not support the individuals' right and responsibility to self-defense who are neglecting the theology of the Bible.

It is interesting to note that countries whose leaders have been influenced by biblical or Christian teachings and who have applied principles gleaned from the Bible into their socio- political structure have seen the right of protection, by means of weapons, as an unalienable right. It is a God-ordained right over which man has no say.

A group of English Protestants of the 16th and 17th centuries, known as the Puritans, had a decisive role in influencing society. They believed that the Bible was applicable to all areas of life. In 1686, James II of England ordered the militia to search for and seize muskets and other guns. This proclamation was selectively used against the Protestants – he was Catholic.

England's Parliament enacted the English Bill of Rights (1689). One of the main provisions of the bill was a guarantee of the right of citizens (including Protestants) to own arms for their personal defense, and not just for the common defense of the nation.

In 1630 many Puritans crossed the Atlantic to the New World. People seeking freedom from oppressive governments formed these settlements. They wanted to establish an ideal state based on biblical principles. Puritan morality and theology had a great impact on the culture of future generations.

Ultimately the American War for Independence resulted in the 1789 U.S. Constitution being adopted. This was followed in 1791 by its Bill of Rights. The Second Amendment in the Bill of Rights declares:

"A well-regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to bear arms shall not be infringed."

When God blessed the children of Israel for their faithfulness, these blessings included a strong national defense and peace. An example of this is during the reign of Jehoshaphat (2 Chronicles 17). The Israelite army was a militia army; each soldier went to war with his own weapon. When Nehemiah rebuilt the walls and gates of Jerusalem, it is noted that even the servants of the Israelites were armed with their own swords.

The Old Testament of the Bible gives a concise historical record of the nation of Israel. It is interesting to note that under the reign of King Saul, the kingdom was lost to the Philistines. The Israelites were put into bondage by their victors. The Philistines would not allow them to have blacksmiths in Israel in case they made swords or spears. Visits to the Philistines had to be made to have their ploughshares, axes and sickles sharpened. This all happened as Israel turned away from God and wanted to be ruled by a man rather than God. (Read the account in 1 Samuel 13.)

When the Israelites were oppressed by the Philistines during the rule of the Judges, the Bible tells us that they chose new gods and when war broke out there were no spears or swords amongst 40,000 Israelites. The Bible links disarmament with the judgment of God.

In London in 1562 the whole clergy of the Church of England agreed upon the 39 Articles of Religion. Article 37 includes, "It is lawful for Christian men to carry weapons and serve in wars at the command of the civil ruler."

David used a sling, the apostles of Jesus Christ had swords and David Livingstone carried a firearm. Many of the Christian reformers of the 15th century were men who carried and used weapons.

Countries that have been influenced historically by mainline Christianity and its belief in the right to own and use arms include England, Switzerland and the U.S.

Red China, Nazi Germany and Rwanda come to mind as those who have chosen gun control as their agenda.

Where would you rather live?

Christians have historically taught that weapon ownership for the common man is an unalienable right.

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#4. To: Mad Dog (#0)

I have been criticized as having used the St. James attack to justify my personal theology – that Christians must defend themselves.

I argue that this is most definitely not my "personal theology" but is historically the theology of mainline Christianity. In fact, it is those who do not support the individuals' right and responsibility to self-defense who are neglecting the theology of the Bible.

Name me one martyr for Jesus that resisted the persecution of the Romans by force of arms?

Name me one Christian who advocated armed resistance against Pagan Rome.

Christians are forbidden to use religion to justify violence. In fact ancient Christian soldiers after Constantine's era would have to repent for 3 years and were denied the sacraments if they killed anyone in battle.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-03-25   10:33:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Godwinson (#4) (Edited)

LOL!

THAT'S truly funny gooberloserton!

You, a person who has no religion or "god' except for the all powerful state, TRYING to lecture Christians about our theology!

FUNNY, ABSURD STUFF!

It's not really your fault. because WEAK Christians have allowed you heathens to define OUR theology for way too long.

After DECADES of dealing with you libTURD filth I understand that your only purpose is to advance your true master's agenda.

It is impossible to NAME individual Christians of the Roman period and you know it asshole, not because nobody did what you supposedly demand "proof" of, resist with force, but because they were WIPED OUT, and their names and lives were erased.

Want to tell me why just ROME counts you libTURD whore?

That's one of you libTURDS' favorite techniques isn't it whore, get em arguing about details, derail the discussion, change the subject, spin, LIE, disrupt.

LOL! You feeble libTURD whore.

Then, after I supply and entire list of quotes FROM scripture that support the right of Christians to use force to defend themselves and others, (post #1), you TRY to claim that they do not exist! LOL! You pitiful lying little libTURD whore.

LOL!

You are a pitiful and feeble little lying libTURD whore.

YOU TRYING to lecture anybody, but especially even bad Christians like me, about OUR scripture and theology is the height of ABSURDITY.

But that is where you libTURD messiah king obammy whores and tools and hypocrites LIVE isn't it?

LIES and ABSURDITY are you libTURD'S true native country.

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-03-25   15:34:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Mad Dog (#7) (Edited)

It is impossible to NAME individual Christians of the Roman period and you know it asshole, not because nobody did what you supposedly demand "proof" of, resist with force, but because they were WIPED OUT, and their names and lives were erased.

LOL! The Romans themselves reported zero Christian armed resistance.

In fact an entire legion of Christians laid down their arms and willingly allowed themselves to be tortured to death rather than resist.

http://www.catholic.org/saints/saint.php?saint_id=368

Maurice was an officer of the Theban Legion of Emperor Maximian Herculius' army, which was composed of Christians from Upper Egypt. He and his fellow legionnaires refused to sacrifice to the gods as ordered by the Emperor to insure victory over rebelling Bagaudae. When they refused to obey repeated orders to do so and withdrew from the army encamped at Octodurum (Martigny) near Lake Geneva to Agaunum (St. Maurice-en-Valais), Maximian had the entire Legion of over six thousand men put to death. To the end they were encouraged in their constancy by Maurice and two fellow officers, Exuperius and Candidus. Also executed was Victor (October 10th), who refused to accept any of the belongings of the dead soldiers. In a follow-up action, other Christians put to death were Ursus and another Victor at Solothurin (September 30th); Alexander at Bergamo; Octavius, Innocent, Adventor, and Solutar at Turin; and Gereon (October 10th) at Cologne. Their story was told by St. Eucherius, who became Bishop of Lyons about 434......

Godwinson  posted on  2011-03-25   15:37:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Godwinson (#8)

LOL!

So, you really ARE a fool, you aren't actually acting.

I imagine that you read and believe what the Nazis said about their treatment of the JEWS in WW2, and that you read and believe the Japanese about how they treated the Chinese in Nanking, and you read and believe the English about how they treated the Irish for a few hundred years, and the .... fill in HUMAN history.

“History is written by the victors.” Winston Churchill

LOL!

You are a deeply ignorant and absurd little libTURD whore gooberloserton!

LOL!

Thanks for the giggles you heathen filth!

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-03-25   15:51:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Mad Dog (#9)

The Romans did not try and hide atrocities they carried out. In fact they were very proud of them. The slaves captured from the Spartacus rebellion were crucified along the Roman roads and their bodies were left to decompose for weeks and months as a reminder of what happens when you resist Roman rule.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-03-25   16:21:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Godwinson (#11)

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LOL!

Don't even try to lecture me on ANY ancient culture or people you ignorant libTURD whore.

I've forgotten more about them than you ever knew.

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-03-25   16:41:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Mad Dog (#13)

Don't even try to lecture me on ANY ancient culture or people you ignorant libTURD whore.

I've forgotten more about them than you ever knew.

Old man syndrome!! LOL!!!

Godwinson  posted on  2011-03-25   16:51:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Godwinson (#14) (Edited)

LOL!

Not really, I actually KNOW what I'm talking about about regarding these specific cultures loser.

I have no "syndrome" asswipe.

I AM "old".

The odds are very high that you never will be.

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-03-31   17:24:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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