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Title: Why Are Politicians Criticizing the Libyan Air Strikes? (Obama may be a war pig but Republicans are Uber war pigs)
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URL Source: http://www.vanityfair.com/online/da ... ing-the-libyan-air-strike.html
Published: Mar 23, 2011
Author: vanityfair.com
Post Date: 2011-03-23 13:54:45 by Godwinson
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Why Are Politicians Criticizing the Libyan Air Strikes? by Juli Weiner March 23, 2011, 12:45 PM The decision to launch air strikes on Libya has been widely criticized, for a wide variety of reasons, by a wide variety of ideologically disparate politicians. President Obama’s Libyan intervention has been called too sudden and not sudden enough, as well as too forceful and not forceful enough. On this fifth day of Odyssey Dawn, let’s review these criticisms. Too soon: Representative Dennis Kucinich (D-OH): “President Obama moved forward without Congress approving. He didn’t have Congressional authorization, he has gone against the Constitution, and that’s got to be said. It’s not even disputable, this isn’t even a close question. Such an action—that involves putting America’s service men and women into harm’s way, whether they're in the Air Force or the Navy—is a grave decision that cannot be made by the president alone.” Representative Jerry Nadler (D-NY): “It doesn't matter that the U.S. is not taking the lead. So what? We are still using U.S. military forces [...] the fact that other countries are doing it to are irrelevant. This act was unconstitutional.” Not soon enough: Senator John McCain (R-AZ): “He [President Obama] waited too long, there is no doubt in my mind about it. But now, it is what it is. We need now to support him and the efforts that our military are going to make. And I regret that it didn’t—we didn’t act much more quickly, and we could have.” Former United Nations ambassador and Fox News pundit John Bolton: “Had America intervened in the opening days of Libya’s conflict, such a prompt and decisive move could have tipped the balance in the opposition’s favor. By thus demonstrating to Qaddafi’s loyalists he had no hope of retaining power, we might have ended his regime with far less risk of casualties and protracted engagement than we face today. Instead, by dithering for a month on whether to use force, Obama raised both the risks and the grave consequences of failure or stalemate.” Too much: Senator Dick Lugar (R-IN): “Clearly, the United States should be engaged with allies on how to oppose the Qaddafi regime and support the aspirations of the Libyan people. But given the costs of a no-fly zone, the risks that our involvement would escalate, the uncertain reception in the Arab street of any American intervention in an Arab country, the potential for civilian deaths, the unpredictability of the endgame in a civil war, the strains on our military, and other factors, I am doubtful that U.S. interests would be served by imposing a no-fly zone over Libya.” Representative Jason Chaffetz (R-UT): “Unless there’s a clear and present danger to the United States of America, I don’t think you use U.S. forces in North Africa in what is the equivalent of a civil war.” Not enough: Senator Jon Kyl (R-AZ): "I’m afraid it may well be too little too late, in which we get the worst of all worlds: We intervened, but to no good effect. I hope and pray that it’s better. There are ways that we could resurrect the situation, but it would involve more activity on the part of the United States than I think would have been required initially.” Former United Nations ambassador and Fox News pundit John Bolton: “Obama’s stated objective of ‘protecting innocent civilians within Libya’ is actually more ambiguous than flatly endorsing regime change. As Washington has emphasized for weeks, the most acute threat to Libya’s people is precisely Muammar Qaddafi. How can the civilians be protected while allowing him to remain in power in any part of Libya? Moreover, on Friday, Obama demanded unconditionally that Qaddafi withdraw from three Libyan cities he already controls or where he is engaged. If Qaddafi fails to withdraw, but otherwise observes a cease fire, is Obama really prepared to continue using military force to drive Qaddafi from these cities? And why those cities and not others where Qaddafi has used military force indiscriminately?” On the other hand, the reliably hawkish New Republic praised Obama.
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Former United Nations ambassador and Fox News pundit John Bolton: “Had America intervened in the opening days of Libya’s conflict, such a prompt and decisive move could have tipped the balance in the opposition’s favor. By thus demonstrating to Qaddafi’s loyalists he had no hope of retaining power, we might have ended his regime with far less risk of casualties and protracted engagement than we face today. Instead, by dithering for a month on whether to use force, Obama raised both the risks and the grave consequences of failure or stalemate.” Imagine that pig McCain and his bitch Palin in the White House. This is why Obama was the lesser choice of two evils for some if not many Americans. This is the contrast.
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
Because your boy Barry hurt their feelings by not asking permission first.
“Do we sit out the whole transition in Egypt or are there roles we can play?” Berman asked in rhetorical fashion. “Even the most rabid budget-cutters have as a general proposition accepted the notion that national security matters are treated differently than other matters.” http://www.infowars.com/national-guard-called-up-for-libyan-intervention/ You've been duped, there is no contrast. The two parties are the same.
I recall a re-run of MASH I saw where this uber right winger named Colonel Flagg... I was not duped. I don't support Obama - I am just saying he is less of a crazed idiot kook than GOP wing.
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
If that's true, then the question is "WHO" did you vote for????
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
ROTMFFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
I refused to buy into that bullshit about voting for "lesser of two evils," because it would still have been voting for evil. I voted for the only man who had EARNED my vote: Ron Paul. The rest of 'em- Barry Soetero (ineligible for POTUS, communist POS), Juan mcStain (war-hero who started the USS Forrestal fire, killing 160+ men), Caribou Barbie... they're all a bunch of whores, that sell out America on a regular basis.
Socialist ass-hats think "There will be no more money when the U.S. dollar has no value, until that time we can keep printing more." And yes, that IS from LF's answer to Ben Bernanke, go65, leading disfunctional and delusional socialist of the forum. "You want me to kill THE ENEMIES of Jappos, I'll kill THE ENEMIES of Jappos, Rebs, or Sioux, or Cheyenne... For 500 bucks a month I'll kill whoever you want. But keep one thing in mind: I'd happily kill you for free." Algren, "The Last Samurai" Quick, mane something Owe-bama hasn't fucked up.... Nuff said.
Atascadero sure has a large number of idiots (laughing my ass off)
I agree with you but........... The one who got elected is driving the bus towards the cliff at 500 MPH, the other one would have been at 100 MPH. I also realize Obozo has woken up the American people to the Lefts brand of BS and they don't like it, hence Nov 2010. Now that may not have happened if McCain was elected. Would the Tea Party have come into being with McCain in charge.... maybe yes, maybe no... So in a way you can actually say Obozo is good for the country while at the same time he is destroying it..... My point is it takes time to identify, support and elect the kind of people we want in government. The problem is time is running out fast with Obozo in charge, because the Republicans in the House haven't grown a spine yet.... Does that make sense to you?????
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
My point is it takes time to identify, support and elect the kind of people we want in government. Agreed. That line of logic goes all the way back to Marcus Tullius Cicero...
Socialist ass-hats think "There will be no more money when the U.S. dollar has no value, until that time we can keep printing more." And yes, that IS from LF's answer to Ben Bernanke, go65, leading disfunctional and delusional socialist of the forum. "You want me to kill THE ENEMIES of Jappos, I'll kill THE ENEMIES of Jappos, Rebs, or Sioux, or Cheyenne... For 500 bucks a month I'll kill whoever you want. But keep one thing in mind: I'd happily kill you for free." Algren, "The Last Samurai" Hey!!! I'm not quite that old....... give a geezer a break!!!! ha ha ha....
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
Senator John McCain (R-AZ): “He [President Obama] waited too long, there is no doubt in my mind about it. But now, it is what it is. We need now to support him and the efforts that our military are going to make. And I regret that it didn’t—we didn’t act much more quickly, and we could have.”
#2. To: Godwinson (#0)
(Edited)
Why Are Politicians Criticizing the Libyan Air Strikes?
#3. To: Godwinson, *The Two Parties ARE the Same* (#1)
Obama was the lesser choice of two evils for some if not many Americans. This is the contrast.
The violation of Libyan national sovereignty and calculated murder of its citizens is a “national security” issue and beyond the pale of budget cutters, according to Rep. Howard Berman of California, top dog Democrat on the House Foreign Affairs Committee. 
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
Godwinson posted on 2011-02-23 11:47:32 ET
http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=18011&Disp=46#C46
#4. To: hondo68 (#3)
You've been duped, there is no contrast. The two parties are the same.
#5. To: Godwinson (#4)
I was not duped. I don't support Obama
#6. To: Godwinson (#1)
This is why Obama was the lesser choice of two evils for some if not many Americans.
#7. To: CZ82 (#5)
Godwinson: I was not duped. I don't support Obama
CZ82: If that's true, then the question is "WHO" did you vote for???? 
#8. To: Godwinson (#0)
#9. To: Capitalist Eric (#7)
I refused to buy into that bullshit about voting for "lesser of two evils," because it would still have been voting for evil.
#10. To: CZ82 (#9)
So in a way you can actually say Obozo is good for the country while at the same time he is destroying it.....
#11. To: Capitalist Eric (#10)
That line of logic goes all the way back to Marcus Tullius Cicero...
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