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Title: The 1 must-have tool for turbulent times
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Published: Mar 17, 2011
Author: Phil Elmore
Post Date: 2011-03-20 18:13:36 by Mad Dog
Keywords: there IS a, STORM, coming
Views: 30715
Comments: 39
"May you live," the ancient curse goes, "in interesting times." We certainly live in days that are anything but boring. The word is, politically, figuratively and, in the case of Japan, literally on fire. We mere mortals, the common citizens, the working men and women of the United States, must stand by and watch it burn down around us. Or must we? With the increasing instability of our politics, our economy and even the physical world itself, only the insane or the stupid would fail to prepare. Westerners have always been prone to technological pseudo-preparation. By this I mean that we, as modern citizens of the West, tend to think that once we acquire a tool, the potential problem is addressed. I may need to drive a nail, so once I buy a hammer, the problem is solved ... right? Well, yes and no. I have the tool I'll need to do the job, but if I've never driven a nail before, I can't assume my work is done. If I want to do the job properly, I've got to make sure I acquire the skill to use the hammer effectively. Given this and despite it, I can't properly drive a nail until I buy that hammer. The time to purchase a hammer is not the moment you start your work; you should be prepared ahead of time. The time to prepare for social upheaval, civil unrest, economic uncertainty and simple self-defense is not when an emergency happens. It is now or, preferably, weeks, months and years ago. As you can't go back in time, you're left with now. Don't delay. There's a piece of technology you need to have on hand, and while you'll need to get an education in the use of that tool, you can't hope to start until the tool is in your possession. That tool is a shotgun. Shotguns are among the most common firearms in the United States. They're typically less regulated than almost any other firearms, such as handguns and even rifles, although minimum barrel lengths and minimum overall lengths are governed by federal law. Seen primarily as hunting and sporting tools, they are nonetheless incredibly effective short-range self-defense weapons. If you don't own a shotgun, get one. You need to know more about that shotgun than you can read in a column of roughly 1,000 words, but if you read and learn nothing else, take this to heart: A shotgun could save your family and your own life, protecting you in times of great trouble. Those times are not on the horizon. They're with us now. The world is burning and the smoke from that fire is growing thicker, darker and closer. The shotgun is a commonly found, relatively inexpensive, smoothbore weapon that has adequate range for self-defense and that is, as a long gun, comparatively easily purchased and possessed. It is probably the simplest firearm solution for the most number of now- unarmed Americans. Every home should have a shotgun. Every responsible citizen should be prepared to defend his home and his family. The shotgun is not just a useful tool; it is a necessary tool. Not to have one, and not to acquire the knowledge needed to use it, is to shirk your responsibility as an American. Training and education you can acquire from a number of sources; shotguns themselves are available widely. Before you put your money on the counter, however, there are some concepts you must consider. To this end, I offer what advice I can after two decades as an armed citizen. First, stick with 12-gauge. There are other calibers. Many are less powerful; some are more powerful. For the defensive shotgun, 12-gauge is adequately powerful without being more than you need. It is very common, which means the widest array of shotguns and accessories are available for it. It is the common denominator in self-defense and law-enforcement shotguns; there is no need to complicate the issue further. The choice of ammunition is more complicated. Louis Awerbuck, something of a legend where teaching the use of the combat shotgun is concerned, gave an interview with the International Society of Close Quarter Combatants in which he advocated using only slugs. His logic, which is difficult to refute, is that with a single slug, you can be certain of your target. With shot, you never quite know exactly where the pellets are going to go if they spread. Immediately disregard any notions about loading birdshot or other light pellets on the theory that you can use the weapon indoors without penetrating the walls of the home. Most bullets and most shotgun loads will penetrate drywall easily. Exterior walls of most structures are only slightly more difficult to penetrate. Birdshot and other light shot is not adequate for human opponents. Anyone who tells you otherwise is a liar or a fool. Choose a name-brand pump action shotgun for ease of use and adequate firepower. The Remington 870, Mossberg 500-series and Winchester Defender are all good choices. Avoid used guns or bargain-basement imports unless they're all you can afford. Barrel lengths of 20 inches are common, and that length is OK for a home-defense shotgun, but don't go longer or you'll find the weapon awkward. In his interview with the ISCQC, Awerbuck mentioned that he personally has tapped mounts for a flashlight on all his shotguns. There are multiple ways to mount a light on your weapon. At the expensive end, you can replace the pump handle with a foregrip integrating a high- end combat flashlight. At the low end, you can attach a flashlight to your gun with everything from commercial mounts to hose clamps. Whatever you do, a light mounted on a self-defense shotgun is a great idea. Night is, of course, when more crime and violence occur. That's it. That's the least I can tell you in good conscience. Buy a shotgun. Do it now. Don't wait. The world is burning. The shadows cast by those fires are long and dark.
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#1. To: All (#0)
With the increasing instability of our politics, our economy and even the physical world itself, only the insane or the stupid would fail to prepare. Don't delay. There's a piece of technology you need to have on hand, and while you'll need to get an education in the use of that tool, you can't hope to start until the tool is in your possession. That tool is a shotgun. You need to know more about that shotgun than you can read in a column of roughly 1,000 words, but if you read and learn nothing else, take this to heart: A shotgun could save your family and your own life, protecting you in times of great trouble. Those times are not on the horizon. They're with us now. The world is burning and the smoke from that fire is growing thicker, darker and closer. stick with 12-gauge There is a STORM coming. dial 911 will be busy. WE and our kinfolk will be alone in caring if we survive. No worries! Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain! Move on citizen, nothing to see here. Nothing can go wrong ... NOTHING can go rong .. "Trust" us. Yeeeeeeeeeeaaaah! Thaaaaaaat's THE ticket! LOL!
Living in mouth breather's empty noggins 24/7/365 totally rent free!
"Trust" us. The revolution will not be televised, Brother.
I recall a re-run of MASH I saw where this uber right winger named Colonel Flagg... Naw. It is a milkbone for a ravenous dawg like you.
What a coincidence. I just bought my 4th, today at a gun show. A Mossberg 500 Tactical Persuader. If I buy many more, I'm going to need a bigger safe.
I would not want a light on my home defense shotgun. If someone breaks into my home at night, my eyes are already adjusted to the darkness of my home. The outside of my home is brightly lit and the intruder will be entering a darker area. His eyes will not be adjusted to the darkness of my home. I know my home. Odds are the intruder doesn't. No need to advertise my position.
Is that why you keep it behind a "safe?" What good is any home defense system unless it is actively deployed and ready for use?
Well Sum of us po folks work a doctrine of "cheap" 12s spread around always within immediate reach. Better a single shot in reach than nothing. Same with the revolver, it's there, it's ready. Why do ya need more than whatever? The entire point is to get to your rifle and 12 is it not? Hard to go wrong with any domestic pump, or whatever. I won't own a ChiCom piece in any case ever, unless there is no other choice, immediate need trumps everything survival wise of course "yo"? So ... every room has four corners, so I sure do not see you as over bought in any way. Birds to bears, with zombies thrown in for gratis. I like the 12, very much indeed.
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. We have the duty to at least speak the truth as we see it. TRUTH always wins in the end. Who knows what fires one spark can light?
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Not exactly true these days. The Revolution WILL be televised, on YOU-TUBE!!
I own many weapons. Some are placed where I can reach them, the bulk are in a gun safe.
Oh my fucking god, is there a DVD or something I can buy from you to learn more?!!
------------------------------------- Funny you should ask yabba dabba do. Just sit in front of a mirror yabba dabba do, then while concentrating say "I'm yabba dabba do and I am a useless fuckwad". REPEAT, for the rest of your life. That ought to just about do it. Fuckwad.
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I don't really know. I just can't stop buying them. ;o) The entire point is to get to your rifle and 12 is it not? If need be. I can get into my safe in about 3 seconds.
Buy a shotgun. Do it now. Don't wait. Good advice... I just ordered up an 870... $400 out the door. Socialist ass-hats think "There will be no more money when the U.S. dollar has no value, until that time we can keep printing more." And yes, that IS from LF's answer to Ben Bernanke, go65, leading disfunctional and delusional socialist of the forum. "You want me to kill THE ENEMIES of Jappos, I'll kill THE ENEMIES of Jappos, Rebs, or Sioux, or Cheyenne... For 500 bucks a month I'll kill whoever you want. But keep one thing in mind: I'd happily kill you for free." Algren, "The Last Samurai" Wow, you guys are so awesome and manly* ------------------------------------- * on the internet Oh, it's NOT just on the internet. You, OTOH, are a bloviating sack of shit.
Socialist ass-hats think "There will be no more money when the U.S. dollar has no value, until that time we can keep printing more." And yes, that IS from LF's answer to Ben Bernanke, go65, leading disfunctional and delusional socialist of the forum. "You want me to kill THE ENEMIES of Jappos, I'll kill THE ENEMIES of Jappos, Rebs, or Sioux, or Cheyenne... For 500 bucks a month I'll kill whoever you want. But keep one thing in mind: I'd happily kill you for free." Algren, "The Last Samurai" I probably shouldn't taunt you losers. You probably go and smack your women and kids around when someone doubts your toughness.
------------------------------------- I see the 'internet tough guy' is the new agreed upon tactic you 'tards employ to put others on the defensive. Typical and typically shallow. Tell your leader Willie Aston-Reece to get psychiatric help. His behavior is bordering on psychotic.
Well, [W.A-R.'s] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over.
You take this too seriously, asswipe. You dipshits aren't worth a tactic, you're just kooks to point at and laugh.
------------------------------------- I don't take any lock-step drone seriously. While you're awaiting your marching orders bite down on it, you useful idiot.
Well, [W.A-R.'s] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over.
Damn you sure got those talking points down pat, but you forgot Luddites and flat earthers. Oh my bad, this site is full of flat earthers, but they're your buds.
"http://first-draft-blog.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c5ced53ef0148c7a28c4b970c-320wi"
I thought I told you to piss off, willie reese.
Well, [W.A-R.'s] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over.
Barrel lengths of 20 inches are common, and that length is OK for a home-defense shotgun, but don't go longer or you'll find the weapon awkward. I like the way the Winchester 1300 patterns with a full choke. It's got a 28" barrel, but IMO it's worth it for the improved performance. Most of the 19-20" ones, only have a fixed cylinder choke. The 1300 gives you choke options via screw in "winchoke" tubes. It's the same thing as a defender, but with wood furniture, and a longer barrel with replaceable choke tubes. Edited to add: The 1300 only holds 5 rounds, and the defender takes about 8 due to a longer magazine tube.
I recall a re-run of MASH I saw where this uber right winger named Colonel Flagg... By the way, you're quite the asshole for posting peoples names. How do you justify such assholery to your pea brain, anyway. Fuckwad.
------------------------------------- I was speaking of number of rounds in a mag. I was raised buying and carrying my own ammo. My dad always said that noise doesn't kill. If I can't get what I need done with six rounds it isn't going to help me if I have more. As to the number of guns a free man owns. I'm thinking of Emelda Marcos and her shoes. There is always room for more. I'm a little skeptical about keeping most of the home defense users in a safe. But ... different strokes ... As long as you are ready to deal with what needs to be dealt with. Whatever works for you is what you need to do imo.
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Still stuck on stupid after all these years and message board incarnations? Fuck off, bottom feeder. Its not like your leader hasn't revealed as much himself.
Well, [W.A-R.'s] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over.
That nine shot 870 is a good deal for a great gun imo. I'm kinda partial to Mossbergs myself, the 500 series and the 590s My favorite is my semiautomatic clip fed AK Saiga 12, (more up front cost). But you can NEVER go wrong with any decent 12 imo.
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* on the internet LOL! Faint praise coming from a pussy (1) such as you yabba dabba do. Are you going to cry now in your typical girlish angst yabba dabba do? Watch yer tutu wittle gurl (1). Your mommy is going to swat your fat ass again if you wreck another one. L O L ! (1). EVERYWHERE, ALWAYS.
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. I didn't know that about the chokes on the 1300. I like Winchester.
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LOL. A real man already knows he is. He feels neither the need nor desire to prove what he already knows to be true. You socialists are all the same. Socialist ass-hats think "There will be no more money when the U.S. dollar has no value, until that time we can keep printing more." And yes, that IS from LF's answer to Ben Bernanke, go65, leading disfunctional and delusional socialist of the forum. "You want me to kill THE ENEMIES of Jappos, I'll kill THE ENEMIES of Jappos, Rebs, or Sioux, or Cheyenne... For 500 bucks a month I'll kill whoever you want. But keep one thing in mind: I'd happily kill you for free." Algren, "The Last Samurai" I hope so. I've never had a shotgun... always owned bolt or lever guns, and semiauto pistols. This oughtta' be fun. :)
Socialist ass-hats think "There will be no more money when the U.S. dollar has no value, until that time we can keep printing more." And yes, that IS from LF's answer to Ben Bernanke, go65, leading disfunctional and delusional socialist of the forum. "You want me to kill THE ENEMIES of Jappos, I'll kill THE ENEMIES of Jappos, Rebs, or Sioux, or Cheyenne... For 500 bucks a month I'll kill whoever you want. But keep one thing in mind: I'd happily kill you for free." Algren, "The Last Samurai" Who was he before? yukko the shitbird? war? bad-lie?
Socialist ass-hats think "There will be no more money when the U.S. dollar has no value, until that time we can keep printing more." And yes, that IS from LF's answer to Ben Bernanke, go65, leading disfunctional and delusional socialist of the forum. "You want me to kill THE ENEMIES of Jappos, I'll kill THE ENEMIES of Jappos, Rebs, or Sioux, or Cheyenne... For 500 bucks a month I'll kill whoever you want. But keep one thing in mind: I'd happily kill you for free." Algren, "The Last Samurai" I accused Rek of being war and Biff Tannen took it upon himself to defend his master's honor. Rek's hit-and-run attention whoring is identical to little willie's.
Well, [W.A-R.'s] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over.
That nine shot 870 is a good deal for a great gun imo. I hope so. I've never had a shotgun... always owned bolt or lever guns, and semiauto pistols. This oughtta' be fun. :) You started with one of the best. No worries. The 870 is a traditional police issue duty 12. Never had a shotgun? Man get ready to spend money on ammo! If you like to shoot, you're d@mned right, it's definitely going to be fun! Try gallon milk jugs partially filled with water on posts at PPC ranges. You can use like cheap 8 shot and talk about an immediate feedback. Yep. FUN.
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I'm thinking of Emelda Marcos and her shoes. LOL!
It has nothing to do with war. I just thought you were being a dick and so i told you so. Dick.
------------------------------------- I think you are a war-run drone with nothing unique to add and I told you so. Maggot-gape motherfucker.
Well, [W.A-R.'s] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over.
If he thinks I'm war, he's an even bigger idiot than I thought.
"http://first-draft-blog.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c5ced53ef0148c7a28c4b970c-320wi"
You're 'war', or should I say WW.A-R.. How's the incompetent, illegal, gangster you obfuscate for doing? Getting us out of any wars lately? How's that job creation going? You're either a paid disinformation puke or you posses a psychotic need for attention.
Well, [W.A-R.'s] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over.
"May you live," the ancient curse goes, "in interesting times." We certainly live in days that are anything but boring.
#2. To: Mad Dog (#1)
NOTHING can go rong ..
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
Godwinson posted on 2011-02-23 11:47:32 ET
http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=18011&Disp=46#C46
#3. To: Mad Dog (#0)
That tool is a shotgun.
#4. To: Mad Dog (#0)
Every home should have a shotgun.
#5. To: All (#4)
#6. To: We The People (#5)
I would not want a light on my home defense shotgun.
#7. To: We The People (#4)
(Edited)
#8. To: hondo68 (#2)
#9. To: hondo68 (#2)
The Fed EXPOSED!!! The FARO RESERVE BANK!!!
#10. To: buckeroo (#6)
What good is any home defense system unless it is actively deployed and ready for use?
#11. To: Mad Dog (#0)
protecting you in times of great trouble. Those times are not on the horizon. They're with us now. The world is burning and the smoke from that fire is growing thicker, darker and closer.
Why don't you make like a tree and get out of here?
#12. To: Biff Tannen (#11)
(Edited)
Oh my fucking god, is there a DVD or something I can buy from you to learn more?!!
#13. To: Mad Dog (#7)
Why do ya need more than whatever?
#14. To: Mad Dog (#0)
Choose a name-brand pump action shotgun for ease of use and adequate firepower. The Remington 870, Mossberg 500-series and Winchester Defender are all good choices....
#15. To: Capitalist Eric, Mad Dog (#14)
* on the internet
Why don't you make like a tree and get out of here?
#16. To: Biff Tannen (#15)
Wow, you guys are so awesome and manly*
#17. To: Capitalist Eric (#16)
Why don't you make like a tree and get out of here?
#18. To: Biff Tannen (#17)
#19. To: Rudgear (#18)
Why don't you make like a tree and get out of here?
#20. To: Biff Tannen (#19)
#21. To: Rudgear (#20)
(Edited)
I don't take any lock-step drone seriously. While you're awaiting your marching orders bite down on it, you useful idiot.
#22. To: Rek (#21)
#23. To: Mad Dog (#8)
(Edited)
Winchester Defender
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
Godwinson posted on 2011-02-23 11:47:32 ET
http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=18011&Disp=46#C46
#24. To: Rudgear (#18)
Why don't you make like a tree and get out of here?
#25. To: We The People (#13)
(Edited)
#26. To: Biff Tannen (#24)
(Edited)
#27. To: Capitalist Eric (#14)
#28. To: Biff Tannen, Capitalist Eric (#15)
Wow, you guys are so awesome and manly*
#29. To: hondo68 (#23)
#30. To: Biff Tannen (#17)
You probably go and smack your women and kids around when someone doubts your toughness.
#31. To: Mad Dog (#27)
That nine shot 870 is a good deal for a great gun imo.
#32. To: Rudgear (#26)
Still stuck on stupid after all these years and message board incarnations? Fuck off, bottom feeder. Its not like your leader hasn't revealed as much himself.
#33. To: Capitalist Eric (#32)
#34. To: Capitalist Eric (#31)
#35. To: Mad Dog (#25)
As to the number of guns a free man owns.
#36. To: Rudgear (#33)
Why don't you make like a tree and get out of here?
#37. To: Biff Tannen (#36)
#38. To: Biff Tannen, war (#36)
It has nothing to do with war. I just thought you were being a dick and so i told you so.
#39. To: Rek (#38)
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