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Title: The Fukushima crisis should not spell the end of nuclear power.
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Monbiot
URL Source: http://www.monbiot.com/2011/03/16/atomised/
Published: Mar 16, 2011
Author: George Monbiot
Post Date: 2011-03-16 14:29:48 by go65
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Views: 18857
Comments: 27
The nuclear disaster unfolding in Japan is bad enough; the nuclear disaster unfolding in China could be even worse. “What disaster?”, you ask. The decision today by the Chinese government to suspend approval of new atomic power plants. If this suspension were to become permanent, the power those plants would have produced is likely to be replaced by burning coal. While nuclear causes calamities when it goes wrong, coal causes calamities when it goes right, and coal goes right a lot more often than nuclear goes wrong. The only safe coal-fired plant is one which has broken down past the point of repair. Before I go any further, and I’m misinterpreted for the thousandth time, let me spell out once again what my position is. I have not gone nuclear. But, as long as the following four conditions are met, I will no longer oppose atomic energy. 1. Its total emissions – from mine to dump – are taken into account, and demonstrate that it is a genuinely low-carbon option. 2. We know exactly how and where the waste is to be buried. 3. We know how much this will cost and who will pay. 4. There is a legal guarantee that no civil nuclear materials will be diverted for military purposes. To these I’ll belatedly add a fifth, which should have been there all along: no plants should be built in fault zones, on tsunami-prone coasts, on eroding seashores or those likely to be inundated before the plant has been decommissioned or any other places which are geologically unsafe. This should have been so obvious that it didn’t need spelling out. But we discover, yet again, that the blindingly obvious is no guarantee that a policy won’t be adopted.
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#1. To: go65, Mad Dog (#0)
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And politicians and plant owners are prepared to deal harshly with environmental saboteurs. Just say no to eco-nazis! Eco-nuts are responsible for 100's of thousands of spent fuel rods being stored at Fukushima. Eco-terrorists are directly responsible for the worst of the radioactive nightmare happening in Japan. These storage "pools" do not have the same durable containment vessels as the reactors, and are the source of most of the emissions. The stuff belching out of them is greatly hampering work on the reactors. Nuke power can be very safe, if you can keep eco kooks out of the process.
I recall a re-run of MASH I saw where this uber right winger named Colonel Flagg... Fuck off. Greed because of the expense was the cause of that stock piling. The simple truth is, the waste problem is the Achilles heel of that industry. Where to put it? The Japanese's could of found their Yucca Mountain to store it; perhaps in Australia, or some other place that would accept payment for the dubious honor. After all, money does talk that way. As does greed when this stuff is stockpiled where it was used. The simple truth about this industry is it has no real future. All the easy to extract Uranium has been extracted and used, and there is what is now estimated to be a 30-40 year supply of harder to process ore available to make fuel for this sort of plant. The simple truth is the nuclear protest movement has been small and stalled the past few decades, and has never really existed in Japan like it did here. You are like a German Nazi who scapegoated Jews for everything. You want a straw man to beat about to blame for the inherent weaknesses and shortcomings of this industry.
Yeah, like the storing of waste that stays dangerous for tens of thousands of years at the 'extinct' volcanic caldera of Yucca Mountain in Nevada, right? Gee, those 'extinct' volcanoes never erupt, right? Except when they do. The supply of fuel is finite, and the waste problem will never be solved.
You once again demonstrate your sheer ignorance of reality, with such a statement. If you KNEW what you were talking about, the quote above would be embarrassing to you. But for leftists like you, it's easier and more comforting, to be willfully ignorant. You're a putz.
Socialist ass-hats think "There will be no more money when the U.S. dollar has no value, until that time we can keep printing more." And yes, that IS from LF's answer to Ben Bernanke, go65, leading disfunctional and delusional socialist of the forum. "You want me to kill THE ENEMIES of Jappos, I'll kill THE ENEMIES of Jappos, Rebs, or Sioux, or Cheyenne... For 500 bucks a month I'll kill whoever you want. But keep one thing in mind: I'd happily kill you for free." Algren, "The Last Samurai" And it's expensive because of?.... Eco-nazis have fought safe and sane storage tooth and nail. Your buddies at Save Japan Dolphins, have screwed the pooch. The dolphins will soon be glowing in the dark. Environ-mental-cases don't really care how many people, dolphins, or other living things they kill, because they're for "population reduction". They'd rather kill humans because they believe that they're evil, but they take what they can get in the end. I recall a re-run of MASH I saw where this uber right winger named Colonel Flagg... Cetaceans are at the top of the food chain and long-lived, therefore they bio-accumulate marine pollutants in their internal organs and muscle (red meat), especially heavy metals like mercury. Many tests since 2001 have shown dolphin and whale meat to be extremely toxic with high levels of mercury, way above the government standard safe level of .4 parts per million (ppm). Mercury and methylmercury are strong neurotoxins, which can cause severe neurological diseases, especially to the fetuses of pregnant women and brain damage to children. Methylmercury is organic mercury which is especially toxic and crosses the placenta and blood brain barrier. Minamata Disease Since the 1950s, mercury poisoning from the Chisso Corp. plastics plant dumping into Minamata Bay on Kyushu, has caused over 2,000 deaths, and as many as 30,000 victims from “Minamata Disease.” (AP 9/30/07) Minamata Disease is a severe neorological syndrome with symptoms of ataxia, paralysis, impaired vision, hearing and speech, and in extreme cases insanity, coma, and death. Toxic mercury in some of the dolphins in Taiji are now higher than in the fish that caused Minamata disease, most of which had 9-24 ppm methylmercury (Understanding Environmental Pollution by Marquita Hill, 1997. p. 217). Despite this history of mercury poisoning, local schools in the Taiji area have been feeding toxic dolphin meat to children in their school lunches. The Japanese Minister of Health and Welfare confirmed the high mercury levels in a 2003 survey, but has done nothing to safe-guard the public. The Fisheries Agency has issued an advisory urging pregnant women not to eat dolphin meat more than once every two months. This meat was sold as whale meat at a market in Katsuura. (It was very popular). -Helene O'Barry photo Taiji Councilmen Speak Out Against Toxic Dolphin Meat Fortunately, two Taiji councilmen, Mr. Junichirou Yamashita and Mr. Hisato Ryono, discovered that 150kg of short finned pilot whale meat had been served in local kindergartens, primary and junior high schools in October of 2006. They had samples of pilot whale meat tested by the minister of Health, Labor and Welfare, which showed mercury 10 to 16 times higher, and methylmercury 10-12 times higher than the maximum safe levels. Consequently, they have come out publicly against feeding dolphin meat to school children. In early December 2006, the Japan Times tested a package of striped dolphin meat from the Shingu Central Okuwa Supermarket, and found and reported mercury at 5.40 ppm - 13.5 times higher than the 0.4 ppm safe level. On December 26, 2006, the Okuwa Supermarket Corporation banned the sale of all dolphin meat in all their stores. Tetsuya Endo is a famous researcher at the Health Sciences University of Hokkaido, who studied the brains of deceased Minamata mercury poisoning victims that showed even low levels of methylmercury can damage or destroy neurons. In a study done in 2005, Endo found the average level of methylmercury for false killer whales was 11.5 ppm, and the highest found was for stripped dolphins at 26.2 ppm, 87 times higher than the safe level. In an interview with The Japan Times, Endo stated, “Everyone should avoid eating dolphin meat. If people continue to eat dolphin, there's a high probability of them having damage to their brains ... No government agency is studying the problem - no scientists in Japan want to study the subject; it's very political.” http://www.dolphinspirit.org/mercury.html You obviously do not believe me when I tell you dolphin meat is no longer consumed in Japan and the local slaughter halted because of that, so read it in black and white.
Which is why I'm against Capital Punishment and abortion; right? If you can't respect and protect human life, you can't advocate for all life. It's as simple as that. We do have way too many people for the world to sustain and preserve intact ecosystems too. But any population reduction should be done through normal life span attrition, and controlling how many people are born. And the controls should be done through informing people of the problem, and gaining support for them. You still love those straw men to try to slander us environmentalists. Unfortunately for you, the facts are not with you. You are a conservative and believe in balanced budgets. Well, there is a budget on 'spaceship Earth' that when exceeded sending us into the red, gives us the huge numbers of people starving, dying needlessly of disease and barely living on the equivalent of a couple of dollars a day. Grow up; and wake the hell up.
I do what I'm talking about. I was one of thousands arrested protesting nuclear power waste disposal and weapons testing at Yucca Flats in March of 1988. I know much about this topic as a long time activist. Hey, we got the industry stifled and had a plant they had already bought much the equipment for canceled in Oregon. And thanks to Japanese stupidity and lack of concern for proper safety protocols we will now do it again. Obama may want nuke plants, but they will not be happening here.
A series of large explosive volcanic eruptions occurred to the north of Yucca Mountain millions of years ago, producing dense clouds of volcanic ash and rock fragments which melted or compressed together to create layers of rock called tuff, forming the mountains and hills of the region. The volcanic eruptions that produced Yucca Mountain ended about 12 million years ago. This explosive volcanism produced almost all (more than 99 percent) of the volcanic material in the Yucca Mountain region.[16] Several million years ago, a different type of eruption began in the area. These eruptions were smaller and much less explosive. These small eruptions were marked by lava and cinders seeping and sputtering from cones or fissures. The last such small eruption occurred about 80,000 years ago. The remaining volcanic material (less than 1 percent) in the Yucca Mountain region is a result of these smaller eruptions.[9] Researchers funded by the Nevada Agency for Nuclear Projects and the Nuclear Waste Division of Clark County, Nevada suggested that the size of the Yucca Mountain volcanic field was not well known. Eight Quaternary basalt volcanoes erupted within 50 km of the proposed repository in the past million years, and higher than previously predicted recurrence rates for Yucca Mountain volcanism are possible in the future.[17] Read the article; clown. See how you embarrassed yourself with that ignorant post to me. You will find that if anything, I understated the risks of that site for such dangerous material.
Which means precisely dick. In 1988, I was working as a reactor operator, on an S5W-equipped submarine. And they don't even let you near the RPCP unless you seriously know your shit. I do. You don't. Socialist ass-hats think "There will be no more money when the U.S. dollar has no value, until that time we can keep printing more." And yes, that IS from LF's answer to Ben Bernanke, go65, leading disfunctional and delusional socialist of the forum. "You want me to kill THE ENEMIES of Jappos, I'll kill THE ENEMIES of Jappos, Rebs, or Sioux, or Cheyenne... For 500 bucks a month I'll kill whoever you want. But keep one thing in mind: I'd happily kill you for free." Algren, "The Last Samurai" Once again, you demonstrate that you haven't a fucking CLUE about the subject. Typical leftist- thinking you can read a sound-bite synopsis of radioactive material, it's ramifications, dangers, issues, etc... and that you're an expert. Get real. Socialist ass-hats think "There will be no more money when the U.S. dollar has no value, until that time we can keep printing more." And yes, that IS from LF's answer to Ben Bernanke, go65, leading disfunctional and delusional socialist of the forum. "You want me to kill THE ENEMIES of Jappos, I'll kill THE ENEMIES of Jappos, Rebs, or Sioux, or Cheyenne... For 500 bucks a month I'll kill whoever you want. But keep one thing in mind: I'd happily kill you for free." Algren, "The Last Samurai" Obama may want nuke plants, but they will not be happening here. Let us pray, that he pulls the plug on your tree house first.
I recall a re-run of MASH I saw where this uber right winger named Colonel Flagg... I do. You don't. With that and a buck and a half you can go buy a cuppa coffee. I was got NBC* training in the Army to qualify to train to do radiological surveys on the ground and in the air when I was in the 82nd Aviation Battalion (now Brigade) because they need NCOs on flight status for this role. So what? It taught me things about radio-active contamination and protocol that helped when I learned about the nuclear waste problem and the foolishness of nuclear power, but leaders of the movement like Loyd Marbet know more about this topic than either you or me and he never served in the military. Historically, nuclear power came about to try to find a peaceful use of the technology developed to build the USS Nautilus and later reactor powered vessels, but that does not make you an expert on this topic just because you worked on this sort of craft before. Grow up, junior. *NBC= Nuclear, Biological, and Chemical
Tree house??!!?? Dude, when you protest logging without laws, one does not damage your sit with such an invasive structure. And what? I had electricity and a babe to massage my tired feet too? I've spent weeks at a time in old growth trees; but always on a roped in platform wearing a harness which we removed when we were done saving an area, or was crushed and splintered by falling if we didn't. Tree houses are a fucking joke.
Hey, too bad your penis is but the size of an IM-9B/PD, Radiacmeter; but that's your damn problem, not mine.
Exactly. So what? You're telling me that you're trained to hold a Geiger counter. BFD. Ah, we get to the money-quote. This demonstrates conclusively, that you don't know diddley shit about the subject. WHY is a long half-life a good thing? Why is a short half-life a bad thing? When you're able to grasp why your prejudices have you completely ass- backwards on nuclear power, then come back and join the adults. Because your "qualifications" are limited to being an "activist," and a monkey with a geiger counter. In other words, you're a professional BS artist. Unlike you, I've been there, DONE that. I've put my hands on fuel cells, I've literally sat on my ass on primary containment vessal, inside the primary shielding, with my arms resting on the control-rod drive mechanisms. Like most leftist "activists," a little knowledge is a dangerous thing. But you're even worse than the typical leftist- you have no knowledge, but think you have firm grip on reality. You're clueless. *NBC= Nuclear, Biological, and Chemical Wow. Did you read that in a book somewhere? LOL. Actually, it DOES. You're just too stupid and too propagandized, to understand that. Piss off, gramps.
Socialist ass-hats think "There will be no more money when the U.S. dollar has no value, until that time we can keep printing more." And yes, that IS from LF's answer to Ben Bernanke, go65, leading disfunctional and delusional socialist of the forum. "You want me to kill THE ENEMIES of Jappos, I'll kill THE ENEMIES of Jappos, Rebs, or Sioux, or Cheyenne... For 500 bucks a month I'll kill whoever you want. But keep one thing in mind: I'd happily kill you for free." Algren, "The Last Samurai" Indeed. It never ceases to amaze me, how so many leftists can be willfully ignorant. They talk a LOT of shit, and when they open their mouths, it's blatantly obvious how completely clueless they are... How can they be so PROUD of their own stupidity?
Socialist ass-hats think "There will be no more money when the U.S. dollar has no value, until that time we can keep printing more." And yes, that IS from LF's answer to Ben Bernanke, go65, leading disfunctional and delusional socialist of the forum. "You want me to kill THE ENEMIES of Jappos, I'll kill THE ENEMIES of Jappos, Rebs, or Sioux, or Cheyenne... For 500 bucks a month I'll kill whoever you want. But keep one thing in mind: I'd happily kill you for free." Algren, "The Last Samurai" To measure nuclear collateral effects at specific points to create a map and data base allowing military planners to take this factor into consideration when doing tactical and logistical military planning, people need to go into the field and get accurate radiation readings as specific points. So one has to be good with a map, and equipment much more accurate than a Geiger counter. We also wore IM93s, the older version of the piece of equipment I posted a picture of to in my last post to you. The military standard is one can only be allowed to absorb 50 Rads of radiation, but imagine them sticking with that in a nuclear war situation. They trained us in how to get accurate readings which is easier on the ground as one can get away from the magnetic moment of a vehicle which affects the reading. When doing it in a helicopter, this is a problem, but sometime the situation dictates accuracy be sacrificed for speed of information gathering when doing this mission. I was very much trained in this, and it is a common task all active duty unites train specific personnel for. I made sergeant E-5 in 2 years, 3 months because I was not only good at my job crewing a helicopter, but I volunteered for this sort of team to gather the promotion points involved. Asshole.
Are you asking if I understand that decay of radioactive material is measured by determining how fast a discrete entity like atoms break down, I do. A half life of a radioactive element is the length of time it is estimated to take for approx. half of the material to decay. For example, the decay of say Carbon-14 for example is exponential and has a half-life of over 5500 years. Carbon-14 will deminish to half of it's original size at the point it reaches it's half life. After another period that long, there will be a quarter of the original amount remaining.
We also wore IM93s, the older version of the piece of equipment I posted a picture of to in my last post to you. The military standard is one can only be allowed to absorb 50 Rads of radiation, but imagine them sticking with that in a nuclear war situation. They trained us in how to get accurate readings which is easier on the ground as one can get away from the magnetic moment of a vehicle which affects the reading. When doing it in a helicopter, this is a problem, but sometime the situation dictates accuracy be sacrificed for speed of information gathering when doing this mission. I was very much trained in this, and it is a common task all active duty unites train specific personnel for. I made sergeant E-5 in 2 years, 3 months because I was not only good at my job crewing a helicopter, but I volunteered for this sort of team to gather the promotion points involved. Asshole. Bottom line is, you STILL haven't demonstrated that you know diddley shit about the subject. Very good. A text-book definition. Of course, any idiot can look the definition up on wikipedia, just as you did. But my question was- and STILL is- "WHY is a long half-life a good thing? Why is a short half-life a bad thing?" Please provide specific answers... IF you can. My bet is that you can't, because you don't know enough about the subject, to speak intelligently. It would be the same as me trying to discuss Shakespeare's Henry V with an illiterate... you just can't hold up your side of the discussion. That doesn't make me an asshole for knowing my shit- which I do. But it makes you a fool, for trying to bluff your way with your "activist" training. Thanks for the laughs, ass-hat. Socialist ass-hats think "There will be no more money when the U.S. dollar has no value, until that time we can keep printing more." And yes, that IS from LF's answer to Ben Bernanke, go65, leading disfunctional and delusional socialist of the forum. "You want me to kill THE ENEMIES of Jappos, I'll kill THE ENEMIES of Jappos, Rebs, or Sioux, or Cheyenne... For 500 bucks a month I'll kill whoever you want. But keep one thing in mind: I'd happily kill you for free." Algren, "The Last Samurai" Well, I am not about to give you a course on radiological surveys as the U.S. Army does them, shouldn't have to explain to a ding a ling like you that every fucking soldier knows what the fuck NBC means and calls protective masks protective masks, not 'gas masks.' And I don't give a rat's ass if you don't know I know what an isotope is, or how to read periodic table of elements, the difference between fission and fusion, why U235 is the isotope used in fission devices and not U238 which is what depleted Uranium is primarily, and many other things concerning things pertaining to this topic. I actually have a very good working knowledge of this subject bud. So you are free to stick your hubris and rudeness up your fat Cali ass.
Half life is part of the 101 level of this topic. It is hardly a difficult thing to explain. I had to make silly models of one element's isotopes in fifth grade, the same year we took a field trip to a now decommissioned nuclear power plant in Connecticut where there were all kinds of interactive displays for visitors to fool with to help them wrap their brain housing group around the topic. This thread is not my first barbecue concerning this topic, dick wad.
Yer wasting your time with this dipshit. He's only interested in showing he can pee further. Once he knows he's going to lose he'll declare himself the winner and bozo you.
------------------------------------- I had tried being civil with the jerk when he slithered his ass over here from Sally land, but bozoed him when I realized he was a sociopathic legend in his own mind. I just took him off bozo the other day and of course he still is as toxic as he ever was. I'm actually glad to vent a bit after holding my tongue earlier with him. Forum fuckwits should always get the reality check that they don't fool most people around them in even a small group of posters as this joint has.
Oh, yeah, you're VERY good at explaining the concept. What you fail to grasp, is its significance. AGAIN I ask, why is a long half-life a good thing, and a short half-life a BAD thing? Here's a *hint* for you: REM. You think you're quite the hot-shot on every topic that (you believe) is connected to environmentalism. Here's your chance to prove you've got the chops... If you can connect the dots on what you profess to know, connecting the meaning of half-lives to REM, then I'll concede the point, that you *do* know something about the subject... But to this point, you've been a disappointment. Oh, and BTW, no books or websites will connect the dots for you. You'll have to look at the theory and explanations, and then apply them in real-world terms. Uh-huh. And if you took the same approach on your previous threads, you looked pretty stupid there, too.
Socialist ass-hats think "There will be no more money when the U.S. dollar has no value, until that time we can keep printing more." And yes, that IS from LF's answer to Ben Bernanke, go65, leading disfunctional and delusional socialist of the forum. "You want me to kill THE ENEMIES of Jappos, I'll kill THE ENEMIES of Jappos, Rebs, or Sioux, or Cheyenne... For 500 bucks a month I'll kill whoever you want. But keep one thing in mind: I'd happily kill you for free." Algren, "The Last Samurai" He's back in California? I though he left a couple of years back for Pennsylvania or thereabouts with his mail order bride never, ever to return.
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I believe that the nuclear record is pretty good when you compare apples to apples. As soon as PRIVATE companies willingly insure the immediate areas around nuke plants, with ZERO public or gooberment money involved in that insurance in any way. I'd look at it case by case very closely. My main, and almost insurmountable objection is not to the nuclear technology or operating histories. My objection is to the danger such sites present from a security point. NOTHING humans can do, can promise a 100% success rate, at protecting these sites from terrorists attacks. NOTHING. Other than that ... ALL other energy development systems cost MANY human lives every year as a matter of course.
Living in mouth breather's empty noggins 24/7/365 totally rent free!
2. We know exactly how and where the waste is to be buried.
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
Godwinson posted on 2011-02-23 11:47:32 ET
http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=18011&Disp=46#C46
#2. To: hondo68 (#1)
#3. To: hondo68 (#1)
"Nuke power can be very safe, if you can keep eco kooks out of the process."
#4. To: Ferret Mike (#3)
Yeah, like the storing of waste that stays dangerous for tens of thousands of years at the 'extinct' volcanic caldera of Yucca Mountain in Nevada, right?
#5. To: Ferret Mike, buckeroo, Capitalist Eric, jwpegler (#2)
Fuck off. Greed because of the expense was the cause of that stock piling
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
Godwinson posted on 2011-02-23 11:47:32 ET
http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=18011&Disp=46#C46
#6. To: hondo68 (#5)
Appeals to stop the dolphin slaughter on humanitarian, moral, and animal cruelty grounds have not worked. Our best appeal is now based on food safety and the health of Japanese children and adults who are eating mercury poisoned dolphin meat. A hopeful sign is that one super market chain has banned selling dolphin meat, and two Taiji councilmen have broken the “code of silence” and spoken up against children eating toxic dolphin meat.
#7. To: hondo68 (#5)
Environ-mental-cases don't really care how many people, dolphins, or other living things they kill, because they're for "population reduction". They'd rather kill humans because they believe that they're evil, but they take what they can get in the end.
#8. To: Capitalist Eric (#4)
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#9. To: Capitalist Eric (#4)
Volcanic history
#10. To: Ferret Mike (#8)
I do what I'm talking about. I was one of thousands arrested protesting nuclear power waste disposal and weapons testing at Yucca Flats in March of 1988. I know much about this topic as a long time activist.
#11. To: Ferret Mike (#9)
You will find that if anything, I understated the risks of that site for such dangerous material.
#12. To: Ferret Mike, Capitalist Eric (#8)
(Edited)
thanks to Japanese stupidity and lack of concern for proper safety protocols we will now do it again
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
Godwinson posted on 2011-02-23 11:47:32 ET
http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=18011&Disp=46#C46
#13. To: Capitalist Eric (#10)
(Edited)
In 1988, I was working as a reactor operator, on an S5W-equipped submarine. And they don't even let you near the RPCP unless you seriously know your shit.
#14. To: hondo68 (#12)
"Let us pray, that he pulls the plug on your tree house first."
#15. To: Capitalist Eric (#11)
#16. To: Ferret Mike (#13)
I was got NBC* training in the Army to qualify to train to do radiological surveys on the ground and in the air when I was in the 82nd Aviation Battalion (now Brigade) because they need NCOs on flight status for this role. So what?
It taught me things about radio-active contamination and protocol that helped when I learned about the nuclear waste problem and the foolishness of nuclear power,
Grow up, junior.
Historically, nuclear power came about to try to find a peaceful use of the technology developed to build the USS Nautilus and later reactor powered vessels, but that does not make you an expert on this topic just because you worked on this sort of craft before.
#17. To: hondo68 (#12)
(Edited)
Let us pray, that he pulls the plug on your tree house first.
#18. To: Capitalist Eric (#16)
So what? You're telling me that you're trained to hold a Geiger counter.
#19. To: Capitalist Eric (#16)
(Edited)
WHY is a long half-life a good thing? Why is a short half-life a bad thing? When you're able to grasp why your prejudices have you completely ass- backwards on nuclear power, then come back and join the adults.
#20. To: Ferret Mike (#18)
To measure nuclear collateral effects at specific points to create a map and data base allowing military planners to take this factor into consideration when doing tactical and logistical military planning, people need to go into the field and get accurate radiation readings as specific points. So one has to be good with a map, and equipment much more accurate than a Geiger counter.
Are you asking if I understand that decay of radioactive material is measured by determining how fast a discrete entity like atoms break down, I do. A half life of a radioactive element is the length of time it is estimated to take for approx. half of the material to decay. For example, the decay of say Carbon-14 for example is exponential and has a half-life of over 5500 years. Carbon-14 will deminish to half of it's original size at the point it reaches it's half life. After another period that long, there will be a quarter of the original amount remaining.
#21. To: Capitalist Eric (#20)
Bottom line is, you STILL haven't demonstrated that you know diddley shit about the subject.
#22. To: Capitalist Eric (#20)
"Very good. A text-book definition."
#23. To: Ferret Mike (#22)
Why don't you make like a tree and get out of here?
#24. To: Biff Tannen (#23)
"Once he knows he's going to lose he'll declare himself the winner and bozo you."
#25. To: Ferret Mike (#22)
Half life is part of the 101 level of this topic. It is hardly a difficult thing to explain. I had to make silly models of one element's isotopes in fifth grade, the same year we took a field trip to a now decommissioned nuclear power plant in Connecticut where there were all kinds of interactive displays for visitors to fool with to help them wrap their brain housing group around the topic.
This thread is not my first barbecue concerning this topic, dick wad.
#26. To: Ferret Mike. Capitalist Eric (#21)
So you are free to stick your hubris and rudeness up your fat Cali ass.
#27. To: hondo68 (#1)
Nuke power can be very safe, if you can keep eco kooks out of the process.
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