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Title: The Fukushima crisis should not spell the end of nuclear power.
Source: Monbiot
URL Source: http://www.monbiot.com/2011/03/16/atomised/
Published: Mar 16, 2011
Author: George Monbiot
Post Date: 2011-03-16 14:29:48 by go65
Keywords: None
Views: 18527
Comments: 27

The nuclear disaster unfolding in Japan is bad enough; the nuclear disaster unfolding in China could be even worse. “What disaster?”, you ask. The decision today by the Chinese government to suspend approval of new atomic power plants. If this suspension were to become permanent, the power those plants would have produced is likely to be replaced by burning coal. While nuclear causes calamities when it goes wrong, coal causes calamities when it goes right, and coal goes right a lot more often than nuclear goes wrong. The only safe coal-fired plant is one which has broken down past the point of repair.

Before I go any further, and I’m misinterpreted for the thousandth time, let me spell out once again what my position is. I have not gone nuclear. But, as long as the following four conditions are met, I will no longer oppose atomic energy.

1. Its total emissions – from mine to dump – are taken into account, and demonstrate that it is a genuinely low-carbon option.

2. We know exactly how and where the waste is to be buried.

3. We know how much this will cost and who will pay.

4. There is a legal guarantee that no civil nuclear materials will be diverted for military purposes.

To these I’ll belatedly add a fifth, which should have been there all along: no plants should be built in fault zones, on tsunami-prone coasts, on eroding seashores or those likely to be inundated before the plant has been decommissioned or any other places which are geologically unsafe. This should have been so obvious that it didn’t need spelling out. But we discover, yet again, that the blindingly obvious is no guarantee that a policy won’t be adopted.

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#1. To: go65, Mad Dog (#0) (Edited)

2. We know exactly how and where the waste is to be buried.

And politicians and plant owners are prepared to deal harshly with environmental saboteurs. Just say no to eco-nazis!

Eco-nuts are responsible for 100's of thousands of spent fuel rods being stored at Fukushima. Eco-terrorists are directly responsible for the worst of the radioactive nightmare happening in Japan. These storage "pools" do not have the same durable containment vessels as the reactors, and are the source of most of the emissions. The stuff belching out of them is greatly hampering work on the reactors.

Nuke power can be very safe, if you can keep eco kooks out of the process.

Hondo68  posted on  2011-03-16   16:52:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: hondo68 (#1)

"Nuke power can be very safe, if you can keep eco kooks out of the process."

Yeah, like the storing of waste that stays dangerous for tens of thousands of years at the 'extinct' volcanic caldera of Yucca Mountain in Nevada, right?

Gee, those 'extinct' volcanoes never erupt, right? Except when they do.

The supply of fuel is finite, and the waste problem will never be solved.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-03-16   17:13:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Ferret Mike (#3)

Yeah, like the storing of waste that stays dangerous for tens of thousands of years at the 'extinct' volcanic caldera of Yucca Mountain in Nevada, right?

You once again demonstrate your sheer ignorance of reality, with such a statement.

If you KNEW what you were talking about, the quote above would be embarrassing to you.

But for leftists like you, it's easier and more comforting, to be willfully ignorant.

You're a putz.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-03-16   17:43:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Capitalist Eric (#4) (Edited)

I do what I'm talking about. I was one of thousands arrested protesting nuclear power waste disposal and weapons testing at Yucca Flats in March of 1988. I know much about this topic as a long time activist. Hey, we got the industry stifled and had a plant they had already bought much the equipment for canceled in Oregon.

And thanks to Japanese stupidity and lack of concern for proper safety protocols we will now do it again. Obama may want nuke plants, but they will not be happening here.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-03-16   19:00:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Ferret Mike, Capitalist Eric (#8) (Edited)

thanks to Japanese stupidity and lack of concern for proper safety protocols we will now do it again

Obama may want nuke plants, but they will not be happening here.

Let us pray, that he pulls the plug on your tree house first.

Hondo68  posted on  2011-03-16   19:39:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#14. To: hondo68 (#12)

"Let us pray, that he pulls the plug on your tree house first."

Tree house??!!??

Dude, when you protest logging without laws, one does not damage your sit with such an invasive structure. And what? I had electricity and a babe to massage my tired feet too?

I've spent weeks at a time in old growth trees; but always on a roped in platform wearing a harness which we removed when we were done saving an area, or was crushed and splintered by falling if we didn't.

Tree houses are a fucking joke.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-03-16 19:50:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: hondo68 (#12) (Edited)

Let us pray, that he pulls the plug on your tree house first.

Indeed.

It never ceases to amaze me, how so many leftists can be willfully ignorant.

They talk a LOT of shit, and when they open their mouths, it's blatantly obvious how completely clueless they are...

How can they be so PROUD of their own stupidity?

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-03-17 12:51:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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