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Title: Why I am not worried about Japan’s nuclear reactors.
Source: Dr Josef Oehmen, a research scientist at MIT
URL Source: http://morgsatlarge.wordpress.com/2 ... about-japans-nuclear-reactors/
Published: Mar 13, 2011
Author: Dr Josef Oehmen
Post Date: 2011-03-13 22:20:19 by go65
Keywords: None
Views: 9512
Comments: 17

I am writing this text (Mar 12) to give you some peace of mind regarding some of the troubles in Japan, that is the safety of Japan’s nuclear reactors. Up front, the situation is serious, but under control. And this text is long! But you will know more about nuclear power plants after reading it than all journalists on this planet put together.

There was and will *not* be any significant release of radioactivity.

By “significant” I mean a level of radiation of more than what you would receive on – say – a long distance flight, or drinking a glass of beer that comes from certain areas with high levels of natural background radiation.

I have been reading every news release on the incident since the earthquake. There has not been one single (!) report that was accurate and free of errors (and part of that problem is also a weakness in the Japanese crisis communication). By “not free of errors” I do not refer to tendentious anti-nuclear journalism – that is quite normal these days. By “not free of errors” I mean blatant errors regarding physics and natural law, as well as gross misinterpretation of facts, due to an obvious lack of fundamental and basic understanding of the way nuclear reactors are build and operated. I have read a 3 page report on CNN where every single paragraph contained an error.

We will have to cover some fundamentals, before we get into what is going on.

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#1. To: mcgowanjm, jwpegler, ignore amos, skip intro, lucysmom, mad dog, ferret mike, (#0)

long, but worth a read.

Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.

go65  posted on  2011-03-13   22:21:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: go65 (#0)

pamela wrote:i think they are saying it's from an underwater landslide. they seem confused.

That makes some kind of sense. Isn't that how Godzilla emerged? 8-)

"The most surreal news night in history"

And Godzilla could come out of the Pacific now and I wouldn't be surprised.

"As a new 5 meter Tsunami is expected to hit Fukushima again, and residents are being advised to immediately get to higher ground, an explosion had been heard coming out of Reactor #3 at the power plant at 11:08 am local time. Supposedly this is a hydrogen explosion just like on Saturday, although the credibility of everyone involved at this point is zero. Dow Jones confirms that only the shell of the third reactor remains. Follow the latest at NHK in what is becoming the most surreal news night in history."

Zerohedge.com

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-03-13   22:57:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: go65 (#0)

Japan is collapsing now.

Tokyo is in blackout, with rolling blackouts til April... or forever. ;}

The most 'complexity' city in the world. The Paris of Japan and rolling blackouts til whenever.

The USbpEcocide was the Dragon King. This is just the next Black Swan.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-03-13   23:00:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: go65 (#1)

You don't call a mass evacuation back 30 km in the middle of catastrophe unless it's grave.

That's what convinces me...;}

And your largest city in continual blackout.

All available power going to ....the nukes.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-03-13   23:02:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: mcgowanjm, go65, Mad Dog (#4)

You don't call a mass evacuation back 30 km in the middle of catastrophe unless it's grave.

The Japan Pacific current strikes Alaska all the time before winding south down to the Americas. With all the released cesium, still rising, from the reactors into the Pacific currents, Mad Dog just might become an all new player on the Internet: Rude_Radiating_Salivating_Dog.

We shall see.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-03-13   23:26:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: buckeroo, mcgowanjm, go65 (#5) (Edited)

Sunday's eruption, which was the biggest volcanic activity in Shinmoedake in 52 years, caused widespread destruction and panic. The blast could be heard for miles, and shattered windows four miles away, the BBC reported. Hundreds of people fled the area as the volcano spewed debris, including hot ash and rocks, more than 6,000 feet in the air, according to BBC reports.

www.latimes.com/news/nati...0,2486939.story?track=rss

As if all of that isn't bad enough, the volcano in southern Japan just blew.


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

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Hondo68  posted on  2011-03-13   23:33:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: hondo68 (#6) (Edited)

Those Japanese folks have a quintuple whammy: 1) a pre-existing failing economy for the last 15 years, 2) one the largest earthquakes in modern history, 3) nuclear power plants ready to burst, 4) tsunamis of killer levels and now a 5) a brand new volcanoe.

A couple of weeks ago, I was going to suggest GEICO Insurance against further problems in one's life but responsibly refrained the same. It just isn't funny anymore.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-03-13   23:44:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: mcgowanjm (#3)

Omg, why don't you just shut the fuck up and go away, you annoying retard.

..

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Whatcha lookin' at, butthead
Why don't you make like a tree and get out of here?

Biff Tannen  posted on  2011-03-13   23:59:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Biff Tannen (#8)

Psychopath leaders will make a choice with you.

you won't like it.

6 reactors. 2 gone. 4 on the way.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-03-14   8:45:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: hondo68 (#6)

As if all of that isn't bad enough, the volcano in southern Japan just blew.

To get ahead, SoCal should evac now.

SoCal will get the same treatment or less from the Imperial City.

San Onofre and El Diable will be FU's for SoCal.

"by CPL on Sun, 03/13/2011 - 22:30 #1048607

US Military is being evacuated right now from Japan. The Two Carriers on the east coast are booking out of dodge as fast as possible to deep sea.

Probably because the core of engineers know exactly what's going to happen next. Chain reaction.

I should also warn everyone that internet services everywhere are going to go into the shitter in the next couple of weeks, months. Japan is a major internet traffic hub and the primary central site for akamai appliances that cache the internet to shot gun DNS requests and data around the planet. So hopfully OSPF works as intended and the internet self heals but it's doubtful. I expect market feeds to be pretty fucked up tommorrow morning at open.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-03-14   8:47:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: go65 (#0)

I am writing this text (Mar 12) to give you some peace of mind regarding some of the troubles in Japan, that is the safety of Japan’s nuclear reactors. Up front, the situation is serious, but under control. And this text is long! But you will know more about nuclear power plants after reading it than all journalists on this planet put together.

What bullshit.

Decay heat on the two reactors melted the fuel cells, releasing active fuel into the primary coolant. With the ruptured pipes, the fuel was then released into the atmosphere, entrained in the steam.

Bad news. While U-235 has a long half-life- which is good- when it's ingested or inhaled as particulate, it does particularly nasty things to live tissue.

The worst part will be activated fission-fragments that escape, with relatively short half-lives, before beta-decaying into more germane isotopes. If you were to inhale some of those buggers, the experience can have bad consequences.

The journalists don't know diddley shit about reactors. Neither does the author of this article- as soon as you get to the sentence "There was and will *not* be any significant release of radioactivity," it's obvious.

And yes, I DO know what I'm talking about... I trained on the Nautilus prototype reactor (S1W) and was plant operator on an S5W-equipped spook-boat. So yeah, I am qualified to analyze the situation...

The sea-water being pumped in, is to cool the fuel cells to prevent melt-down due to decay heat. The good news is that the majority source of the decay heat should subside within about 72 hours.

Socialist ass-hats think "There will be no more money when the U.S. dollar has no value, until that time we can keep printing more." And yes, that IS from LF's answer to Ben Bernanke, go65, leading disfunctional and delusional socialist of the forum.

"You want me to kill THE ENEMIES of Jappos, I'll kill THE ENEMIES of Jappos, Rebs, or Sioux, or Cheyenne... For 500 bucks a month I'll kill whoever you want. But keep one thing in mind: I'd happily kill you for free." Algren, "The Last Samurai"

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-03-14   9:48:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Capitalist Eric, mcgowanjm (#11)

Eric, Jim.

Jim, Eric.

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Why don't you make like a tree and get out of here?

Biff Tannen  posted on  2011-03-14   9:58:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Biff Tannen (#12)

BWHAAHAHAHAHAHA

need to get up to speed there, Tan.

Eric hates me as a 'socialist'. Couldn't brand me a commie cause even CE realizes that's dead.

" #1048694

Banzai7, who is in Hong Kong, told me his broadband was been very slow since the tsunami. Another contact on the mainland told me the same thing. The assumption was just heavy traffic, but maybe it's more than that.

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by CPL on Sun, 03/13/2011 - 22:39 #1048711

It's a major hub. Same thing would happen if Denver, Chicago, Liverpool, Paris, Amesterdam, etc. Went up in smoke.

the guy that runs ricefarmer.blogspot.com is in Japan and managed to get a post up mentioning that there is only three hours of power a day...even then.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-03-14   10:23:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: mcgowanjm (#3)

Japan is collapsing now.

Tokyo is in blackout, with rolling blackouts til April... or forever. ;}

The most 'complexity' city in the world. The Paris of Japan and rolling blackouts til whenever.

The USbpEcocide was the Dragon King. This is just the next Black Swan.

Admit it. You got wood writing that,didn't you?

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sneakypete  posted on  2011-03-14   10:32:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: sneakypete (#14) (Edited)

.

Admit it. You got wood writing that,didn't you?

Us Dirty Fuckin Hippies have been crying since before Reagan told you that it was Morning in Amerika when it was 11:30 at nite.

All cried out now.

Greatest Event in Human History and we haven't even started stabilizing yet.

And the USSA MSM lying to you about San Onofre/Diablo SoCal as I type.

And I get wood when I need it. ;}

# AP News: 3 injured, 7 missing in blast at Japan nuke plant The blast was similar to an earlier one at a different unit at the facility. ... AP journalists felt the explosion 30 miles (50 kilometers) away. ... m.apnews.com/ap/db_16026/...tdetail.htm?contentguid... - Cached

3 injured, 7 missing in blast at Japan nuke plant - FOX19.com and ... Mar 13, 2011 ... The blast was similar to an earlier one at a different unit of the ... AP journalists felt the explosion 30 miles (50 kilometers) away. ... www.fox19.com/Global/story.asp?S=14241627 Get more results from the past 24 hours

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mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-03-14   10:44:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: All (#15)

And anyone 45 or younger might as well move now if you're in SoCal, cause not one fucking thing will be done to increase your odds of survival:

" In addition, the Japanese government had been repeatedly warned about seismic risks:

[..] the real embarrassment for the Japanese government is not so much the nature of the accident but the fact it was warned long ago about the risks it faced in building nuclear plants in areas of intense seismic activity. Several years ago, the seismologist Ishibashi Katsuhiko stated, specifically, that such an accident was highly likely to occur. Nuclear power plants in Japan have a "fundamental vulnerability" to major earthquakes, Katsuhiko said in 2007. The government, the power industry and the academic community had seriously underestimated the potential risks posed by major quakes.

Katsuhiko, who is professor of urban safety at Kobe University, has highlighted three incidents at reactors between 2005 and 2007. Atomic plants at Onagawa, Shika and Kashiwazaki-Kariwa were all struck by earthquakes that triggered tremors stronger than those to which the reactor had been designed to survive.

In the case of the incident at the Kushiwazaki reactor in northwestern Japan, a 6.8-scale earthquake on 16 July 2007 set off a fire that blazed for two hours and allowed radioactive water to leak from the plant. However, no action was taken in the wake of any of these incidents despite Katsuhiko's warning at the time that the nation's reactors had "fatal flaws" in their design[..] "

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-03-14   10:59:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: go65 (#1) (Edited)

Hey moron.

This is what everyone with a brain has been saying since the start of this thing.

It's BAD, people are going to die because of their exposure to radiation. Unfortunately that's a given.

BUT this is NOT a Chernobyl type or scale disaster, and it CANNOT be because of the DIFFERENT REACTOR DESIGNS.

If you want to fear something that humanity has absolutely ZERO control of why don't you worry about earthquake and tsunamis moron?

BUT you libTURD whores make EVERYTHING political don't you whore?

While at least many tens of THOUSANDS of innocent Japanese are DEAD and missing from the quake and tsunamis you scum TRY to use this to stop nuclear development in the USA so we can remain the petro slaves of gooberments and people who use that money to KILL and destroy Americans and America.

What you libTURD filth are doing here is what you libTURD filth always do, which is to try to stampede the people with FEAR so you can "guide" them, it's what you filth do.

It's WHO you libTURD filth are.

You libTURDS are nothing but gibbering FILTH.

Spit ...

Living in mouth breather's empty noggins 24/7/365 totally rent free!

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-03-14   16:31:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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