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Title: Paul Krugman: America's Not Broke - We Can Still Borrow Money
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/no ... roke-we-can-still-borrow-money
Published: Mar 11, 2011
Author: Noel Sheppard
Post Date: 2011-03-12 22:16:47 by Mad Dog
Keywords: Up is DOWN, libTURD/commie, vodoo economics
Views: 5014
Comments: 9

If banks and credit card companies are willing to lend you money, does that mean you're not broke?

According to Nobel laureate Paul Krugman, America is doing just fine financially because we're having no problem borrowing money:

[T]he nation is not, in fact, “broke.” The federal government is having no trouble raising money, and the price of that money — the interest rate on federal borrowing — is very low by historical standards. So there’s no need to scramble to slash spending now now now; we can and should be willing to spend now if it will produce savings in the long run.

You got that?

It warrants repeating, because the inanity on display is almost staggering: 'The federal government is having no trouble raising money...So there’s no need to scramble to slash spending now."

I guess in Krugman's view, governments shouldn't worry about their deficits until they have problems borrowing.

Should corporations and individuals manage their finances the same way? Isn't that in fact a large cause of the financial crisis that rocked our nation in 2008?

To put a finer note on the absurdity, a few paragraphs earlier, Krugman said, "[T]here are still moments when I find myself saying, 'They can’t really be that stupid.'”

This is how a feel virtually every time I read one of Krugman's columns or see him on television.

But there was more:

[W]hile the government does have a long-run fiscal problem, that problem is overwhelmingly driven by rising health care costs. The Congressional Budget Office expects Social Security outlays as a percentage of G.D.P. to rise 30 percent over the next quarter-century, as the population ages, but it expects a near doubling of the share of G.D.P. spent on Medicare and Medicaid.

So if you’re serious about deficits, you shouldn’t be pinching pennies now; you should be looking for ways to rein in health spending over the long term. [...]

Think of it this way: Congress could, with a stroke of a pen, cut Social Security benefits in half. But it couldn’t do the same with health spending: Medicare can’t suddenly start paying to replace only half a heart valve or mandate that bypass operations stop halfway through.

Readers are once again reminded that this man has a Nobel prize in economics and is widely- revered by liberals from coast to coast.

To begin with, reining in Medicare costs in the future will indeed require decisions to be made concerning what the program will and won't cover. Most experts agree the program can't go on forever without making such tough choices.

Krugman himself made this very point on ABC's "This Week" last November:

If they were going to do reality therapy, they should have said, OK, look, Medicare is going to have to decide what it's going to pay for. And at least for starters, it's going to have to decide which medical procedures are not effective at all and should not be paid for at all.

So, four months ago before the new Republican House was sworn in looking to cut spending, Krugman was all for Medicare reducing costs by making decisions concerning what procedures it will and won't cover.

But on Friday, as Republicans are pushing for very modest fiscal belt tightening, Krugman claimed Congress can't cut Medicare spending.

They can’t really be that stupid.

What shills like Krugman intentionally hide from Americans is what's called unfunded liabilities. These are the combined financial obligations of Social Security and Medicare in the future.

As the National Center for Policy Analysis reported in June 2009:

The 2009 Social Security and Medicare Trustees Reports show the combined unfunded liability of these two programs has reached nearly $107 trillion in today's dollars! That is about seven times the size of the U.S. economy and 10 times the size of the outstanding national debt.

The unfunded liability is the difference between the benefits that have been promised to current and future retirees and what will be collected in dedicated taxes and Medicare premiums. Last year alone, this debt rose by $5 trillion. If no other reform is enacted, this funding gap can only be closed in future years by substantial tax increases, large benefit cuts or both.

$107 trillion! That's almost eight times our current Gross Domestic Product!

Add to that the $14 trillion we currently owe, and the rose-colored budget projection by the White House of $7 trillion in additional debt creation in the next ten years, and we're really in the hole for $128 trillion or nine times GDP.

But don't worry. A famous Nobel laureate in economics says we're not broke because we can still borrow more.

And here's the punch line: the title of this article is "Dumbing Deficits Down."

Readers are once again reminded Krugman asked four weeks, "How can voters be so ill informed [sic]?"

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#1. To: All (#0)

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Who the F are these people? and what F ing planet are they really from?

libTURDISM is a mental disease.

All HAIL the messiah king obammy! /S

Living in mouth breather's empty noggins 24/7/365 totally rent free!

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-03-12   22:18:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Mad Dog (#0)

According to Nobel laureate Paul Krugman, America is doing just fine financially because we're having no problem borrowing money:

Yikes! No wonder he won a Nobel Prize? The man is a virtual brainiac!

Why is it that I suspect he has ties to banking families?

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sneakypete  posted on  2011-03-13   10:20:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Mad Dog (#0) (Edited)

Medicare is going to have to decide what it's going to pay for. And at least for starters, it's going to have to decide which medical procedures are not effective at all and should not be paid for at all.

Of course that's the wrong approach for many reasons, including that it will stall medical innovation.

America already has a socialist medical system, with over 50% of all healthcare costs being paid for by the government. This is the problem.

Prior to Medicare and Medicaid, American had a very cost effective and innovative medical system. Contrary to leftist mythology, old folks and the poor were not dying the streets because of lack of care.

The only reason we would up this miserable road to medical socialism is that Kennedy thought that the European's were "ahead of us" and more "modern". Johnson used the dead President's memory to f*ck our healthcare system up.

In the era between WWII and the 1970s people had great faith in central planning. The government won the war didn't they?!!! Hoorah! So let's have government run healthcare too!

Leftist also thought the Soviet Union was way ahead of us on a whole bunch of things as well. Leftists are just wrong about socialized medicine as they were about the Soviets.


"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899

jwpegler  posted on  2011-03-13   15:47:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: jwpegler (#3)

Prior to Medicare and Medicaid, American had a very cost effective and innovative medical system. Contrary to leftist mythology, old folks and the poor were not dying the streets because of lack of care.

We should have never mass vaccinated against polio or measles in the early sixties either. Every kid should have had the opportunity to know the joy of walking in braces, and being born blind and/or deaf.

"http://first-draft-blog.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c5ced53ef0148c7a28c4b970c-320wi"

Rek  posted on  2011-03-13   16:04:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Rek (#4) (Edited)

We should have never mass vaccinated against polio or measles in the early sixties either.

Which has nothing whatsoever to do with Medicare and Medicaid bozo.


"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899

jwpegler  posted on  2011-03-13   16:11:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: jwpegler (#5)

Which has nothing whatsoever to do with Medicare and Medicaid bozo.

It was another factor that directly led to them, bozo. You think that Crippled Children's were able to meet the demand?

"http://first-draft-blog.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c5ced53ef0148c7a28c4b970c-320wi"

Rek  posted on  2011-03-13   16:20:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Rek (#6) (Edited)

It was another factor that directly led to them, bozo.

Completely wrong as usual.

If you eat like a pig, refuse to exercise and keel over dead of a heart attack, it doesn't affect me at all. But if you don't get vaccinated for polio you may give to my infant before he/she is able to be vaccinated. It's a big difference.

The CDC is not Medicare or Medicaid. The CDC did not destroy the healthcare system. It improved it. Medicare and Medicaid destroyed our healthcare system because it disassociated the person receiving medical services from the person paying for medical services. The same type of thing is wrong with the government monopoly schools.


"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899

jwpegler  posted on  2011-03-13   16:26:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: jwpegler (#7)

Completely wrong as usual.

It didn't lead to the socialized medical care system you say you abhor? Sorry, my mistake.

"http://first-draft-blog.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c5ced53ef0148c7a28c4b970c-320wi"

Rek  posted on  2011-03-13   16:29:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Rek (#8)

Sorry, my mistake.

Apology accepted.


"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899

jwpegler  posted on  2011-03-13   16:35:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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