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Title: More Obama energy lies
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Big Government
URL Source: http://biggovernment.com/jdunetz/20 ... obama-energy-lies/#more-241212
Published: Mar 11, 2011
Author: Jeff Dunetz
Post Date: 2011-03-11 22:26:29 by CZ82
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Views: 15544
Comments: 28
Clearing-up Today’s Obama Energy Lies by Jeff Dunetz This afternoon the President of the United States tried one again to mislead the public about domestic oil production and how much untapped oil is left in the ground. He said that domestic oil production is at the highest level in seven years and he indicated that American reserves are not adequate to help the US reduced its dependence on foreign oil. If Congressman Wilson was in the audience he might have repeated his famous shout “You Lie.” Domestic Oil Production. Obama commented that US oil production was at its highest point in seven years. That was both incorrect and misleading. Daily average production of oil last year 5,361,000 barrels/day the best since 2005’s 5,419,000/day. The real misleading fact about his statement, is that neither year is even close to levels seen only ten years before when production was 20% higher. The President mentioned 35 offshore contracts were awarded, hiding the fact that off shore oil production has been way down since 2005, and that production took a big drop as soon as Obama took office (even before BP) Domestic Supply The President grossly undersold America’s oil supply saying that we only have 2% of the worlds supply. OK he didn’t undersell, he lied big time. The number is America’s proven reserves where we are already drilling. It does not include the 10 billion barrels available in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. It does not include most of the 86 billion barrels available offshore in the Outer Continental Shelf, most of which President Obama has placed under an executive drilling ban. And it does not include the 800 billion barrels of oil we have locked in shale in Wyoming, Utah, and Colorado. Those shale resources alone are actually three times larger than the proven reserves of Saudi Arabia, so the claim that the U.S. only has 2% of the world’s oil is clearly false. A 2009 study by the non partisan Congressional Research Service (CRS) sheds light on America’s energy resources. It shows show the U.S. supply of recoverable oil to be 167 billion barrels of oil, the equivalent of replacing America’s current imports from OPEC countries for more than 75 years. And that’s just the oil, when you include gas and coal, the U.S. has energy reserves the equivalent of 1.3 trillion barrels. On top of that there is more Oil to find. For example, in 2008 the US Geological Survey announced that the Arctic holds about 90 BILLION barrels of Oil, more than Nigeria, Kazakhstan and Mexico combined about one third of the reserves are in Alaskan waters. In the graph below the darker the blue the better the probability of Oil. In the map below the darker the green the more oil. The Dark green area between five and six o’clock is in Alaska territory, which is just under 30 Billion Barrels of Oil. And just like anything else in this world, politics will play a huge part in how soon we can get to it Oil Companies Are Not Using The Leases They Have. The President said the “Industry holds leases on tens of millions of acres both offshore and on land where they aren’t producing a thing.” and he said he wants to “encourage companies to produce [on] the leases they hold.” If Obama is telling the truth, those oil companies must be run by idiots, paying for leases but not getting the product out of the ground so they can make money. Thankfully for those who hold stock in big oil, it isn’t that the oil companies are run by idiots its that the President thinks the American people are idiots and will believe that particular pack of lies. A lease is for exploration and production, not just production, and because oil is not equally distributed across the globe, one parcel of leased acreage may not hold any oil. Moreover, due to government red-tape, which has gotten more complected under the Obama administration, it can take years for companies who own a lease to complete their exploration activities. To get to the production phase, it could take as long as ten years. Ironically, President Obama wants to tax companies for not producing on their leases, even if the federal government’s refusal to grant permits is the reason why those companies are not drilling. The truth is, ever since Barack Obama took office the President has been making it more difficult to exploit our own energy resources, one of his first actions was having the Secretary of the Interior cancel leases to exploit our shale oil reserves in Utah. It seems as if President Obama’s energy policy consists of making America more dependent on foreign oil.
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#1. To: CZ82 (#0)
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That's false: http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/bakken.asp
Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.
Snopes isn't reliable.
Yeah, sites that dispel conspiracy theories with facts don't get a whole lot of respect from you. :-) Check the article, they cite all their sources.
Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.
C'mon now - who're ya gonna believe? These folks quoted here? or the resident energy "experts" on LF? (you "experts" know who you are)
_____________________________________________________________________________________________ If it comes from Snopes, Wikipedia and Google I don't put much stock in it. I know some people do because their articles are biased to support the Left side of the story..... I can't remember who it was that used Wiki to get an excerpt from an article from the RAND Corporation. It fit their side of the story because it had been edited by Wiki to do so. I got the copy of the "genuine" article from RAND (posted it)and it put a whole different light on the story.... And it was about this very same subject....... oil........ Needless to say that thread died because someone didn't really want to hear the truth....
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
that study was also on the Bakken Oil fields, so the author of the posted article is double counting. The study also said about 1% of that 167 billion barrels of oil were recoverable using known technologies. http://www.bismarcktribune.com/news/state-and-regional/article_71ddd831-683a-50d4-a259- a6cb70c47ef6.html
Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.
Can I suggest we all - just for a moment - step outside of our biases and ask ourselves: Is all truth subjective? I have biases - we all do. So, for every "expert" I can cite in a given field, someone else with a different set of biases, can cite different "experts" in the same field. Those experts will of course come to a different set of conclusions than my experts. And then we have our own set of experiences. As one who came of age when gas was 35 cents a gallon, lived through the Nixon/Ford/Carter 70s with gas lines and rationing, and now see gas approaching 4 then 5 dollars a gallon, I can only offer my own perspective. In 1979 I lived in Oklahoma (during one of the Carter gas crises). I drove to a buddy's wedding in the D/FW area of Texas. (BTW, both OK and TX were oil produing states in 1979) As it turned out, when I got to Texas I found that there was rationing (gas pumps were only operational for a couple hours a day) and shortages. Oklahoma had experienced none of this. After the wedding, I ended up leaving my buddy's house around 2 in the morning to drive back to OK. My car only had about a quarter tank of gas and, knowing that I might not make it back to OK, I figured I'd just get as far as I could, pull into a gas station and wait for it to open. (Like I said, at pre-dawn hours I didn't expect any stations to be open.) As it turned out, I had enough gas to make it to OK. Once there, lo and behold - all the 24 hr gas stations were open, and one could pump as much gas as needed. "What the hell's going on here?" I asked myself. Turns out that - in the 70s - Carter's DOE decided that it would ration gas supplies to the states (based on some whoknowswhat formula) - the end result being the absurd situation where oil producing Texas had rationing and shortages while oil producing Oklahoma was awash in oil. All this to say - there seems to be two major divides. Those of us who seem to think markets can be micro-managed; and those who prefer the more rough and tumble of free markets. Somehow - in the US - we seem to have gotten the worst of both.
_____________________________________________________________________________________________ All this to say - there seems to be two major divides. Those of us who seem to think markets can be micro-managed; and those who prefer the more rough and tumble of free markets. Somehow - in the US - we seem to have gotten the worst of both. You free trade cultists need to find yourself the appropriately governmentless rough and tumble country in which to express your wheeling/dealing obsessions..... Somalia comes to mind. Carters DOE policies.... most caused or created due to Nixon's carefully orchestrated 73 Oil crisis. In that era we used to go up in the hills and count the heavily laden oil tankers out on the bay most of which had been sitting there day after day or you could just check at their arrival and departure dates published in the local rags. I think we counted 34 fully loaded tankers anchored at one time. As soon as the right price hit they were all gone within a few days. And the fishermen on the bay were happy to get their fishing grounds back.
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Did you miss this lived through the Nixon/Ford/Carter 70s with gas lines and rationing, in my post? Of course you did. I'll even go one further - Nixon CREATED the DOE. So there . . .
_____________________________________________________________________________________________ Since Nixon. There has only been one better president then he was. imo.
I'll even go one further - Nixon CREATED the DOE. So there . . . There were no gas lines here during Ford or Carter. Sorry. And during Clinton gas prices went down and didn't go back up until Bush.
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We part company there, AK Nixon arrived on the national scene fighting leftists and statists, that's true. And then spent the remainder of his career in a futile attempt to try to get the Left to love him. (one of the results - the EPA. Torturing us to this day.)
_____________________________________________________________________________________________ He created the energy 'crisis' for his oil buddies.
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You're making it too easy . . . _____________________________________________________________________________________________ (one of the results - the EPA. Torturing us to this day.) You forgot his wage and price controls, more of that 'statism' he was 'fighting'. lolol Nixon was more a pompous idiot who really wanted to be king.
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Nixon was pro America at least. Ford...sucked Carter....Really Sucked Reagan....best president of 20th century. bush...new world order he sucked Clinton...New world order he sucked. Bush....new world order he sucked. Obama....Worst president we have ever had.
I guess you don't read too well.
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He was a fatally flawed individual. Paranoid to be sure. Probably many other psychological problems.
_____________________________________________________________________________________________ No - you don't write too well. I interpreted "here" in your mis-statement to mean "here - in the U.S." If you meant something different, you should have been clearer. Clarity can be your friend . . .
_____________________________________________________________________________________________ Nixons supported a Communist nation over the interests of that of it's neighbor a small democratically run US trading partner. All because one had a larger potential market. He was a Kissinger-run toady.
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Are you trying to say Nixon shouldn't have went to China? I don't necessarily disagree with that. I am just saying all the presidents with the one exception I mentioned have been horrible.
Nixon's political career spanned the years 1946 - 1961, then 1968 - 1974. In the first part of his career, he made a name for himself fighting leftists like Alger Hiss and statists in general. Sometime after his gubernatorial defeat in '62 (you won't have Nixon to kick around anymore), he became more "moderate" His "comeback" and presidency saw him in a futile attempt to atone for his "original sins" - but the Left in this country does not easily forgive. While they will cover up and seek to minimize human flaws in those they love (Clinton comes to mind) poor old Tricky Dick wasn't so lucky. And Nixon - with his paranoia and megalomania - certainly gave them plenty of ammo. My question to you is: I agree - Nixon WAS a statist. (So was W for that matter) Why do you insane leftists hate them so much, then?
_____________________________________________________________________________________________ I interpreted "here" in your mis-statement to mean "here - in the U.S." If you meant something different, you should have been clearer. Clarity can be your friend . . . Your parsing and lack of understanding of the English language in context is really getting tiresome. I don't remember you or me mentioning gas shortages anywhere else but in the USA. So once that base of understanding has been ascertained adding "here" means where I am. It's an American thing probably not understood by you foreigners.
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Your post sounds like it's right out of wiki. More cut and paste I'm just trying to figure out why you lobbyists have lie or omit to try to make your point. You do know most of the Nixon era documents have been declassified?
"http://first-draft-blog.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c5ced53ef0148c7a28c4b970c-320wi"
Your bullshit attitude, my friend, is what is tiresome Are you here to discuss, or to slam? 'cause we can do either. Your call
_____________________________________________________________________________________________ Are you here to discuss, or to slam? 'cause we can do either. Your call I want to see you do more cutting and pasting. Nixon led directly through his foreign and domestic economic policies to where we are NOW. With non of your free markets even remotely in view, but heh there's always some Africa shit hole that will let you trade there. The accommodations aren't probably to your liking though. Infrastructure, legal recourse, security, etc., etc., are lacking... you know.... all those things supplied by governments, that create interference in the purity of the free markets, that you detest.
"http://first-draft-blog.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c5ced53ef0148c7a28c4b970c-320wi"
Cut and paste, huh? If indeed I did cut and paste, then it should be fairly easy to prove for a Google genius such as yourself. Go ahead, knock yourself out.
_____________________________________________________________________________________________ How much do you want to bet that he was 10 or younger at that time????
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
And it does not include the 800 billion barrels of oil we have locked in shale in Wyoming, Utah, and Colorado. Those shale resources alone are actually three times larger than the proven reserves of Saudi Arabia, so the claim that the U.S. only has 2% of the world’s oil is clearly false.
#2. To: go65 (#1)
#3. To: A K A Stone (#2)
Snopes isn't reliable.
#4. To: CZ82 (#0)
A 2009 study by the non partisan Congressional Research Service (CRS) sheds light on America’s energy resources. It shows show the U.S. supply of recoverable oil to be 167 billion barrels of oil, the equivalent of replacing America’s current imports from OPEC countries for more than 75 years. And that’s just the oil, when you include gas and coal, the U.S. has energy reserves the equivalent of 1.3 trillion barrels.
Political tags -- such as royalist, communist, democrat, populist, fascist, liberal, conservative, and so forth -- are never basic criteria. The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire.”
-- Robert A Heinlein
#5. To: Ignore Amos (#4)
C'mon now - who're ya gonna believe?
#6. To: Ignore Amos (#4)
A 2009 study by the non partisan Congressional Research Service (CRS) sheds light on America’s energy resources. It shows show the U.S. supply of recoverable oil to be 167 billion barrels of oil, the equivalent of replacing America’s current imports from OPEC countries for more than 75 years.
#7. To: CZ82, go65 (#5)
Political tags -- such as royalist, communist, democrat, populist, fascist, liberal, conservative, and so forth -- are never basic criteria. The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire.”
-- Robert A Heinlein
#8. To: Ignore Amos (#7)
(Edited)
Turns out that - in the 70s - Carter's DOE decided that it would ration gas supplies to the states (based on some whoknowswhat formula) - the end result being the absurd situation where oil producing Texas had rationing and shortages while oil producing Oklahoma was awash in oil.
#9. To: Rek (#8)
Carters DOE policies.... most caused or created due to Nixon's carefully orchestrated 73 Oil crisis.
Political tags -- such as royalist, communist, democrat, populist, fascist, liberal, conservative, and so forth -- are never basic criteria. The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire.”
-- Robert A Heinlein
#10. To: Ignore Amos (#9)
Nixon
#11. To: Ignore Amos (#9)
Did you miss this lived through the Nixon/Ford/Carter 70s with gas lines and rationing, in my post? Of course you did.
#12. To: A K A Stone (#10)
Since Nixon. There has only been one better president then he was. imo.
Political tags -- such as royalist, communist, democrat, populist, fascist, liberal, conservative, and so forth -- are never basic criteria. The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire.”
-- Robert A Heinlein
#13. To: A K A Stone (#10)
Since Nixon. There has only been one better president then he was. imo.
#14. To: Rek (#11)
(Edited)
There were no gas lines here during Ford or Carter.
Political tags -- such as royalist, communist, democrat, populist, fascist, liberal, conservative, and so forth -- are never basic criteria. The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire.”
-- Robert A Heinlein
#15. To: Ignore Amos (#12)
And then spent the remainder of his career in a futile attempt to try to get the Left to love him.
#16. To: Ignore Amos (#12)
We part company there, AK
#17. To: Ignore Amos (#14)
You're making it too easy . . .
#18. To: Rek (#15)
Nixon was more a pompous idiot who really wanted to be king.
Political tags -- such as royalist, communist, democrat, populist, fascist, liberal, conservative, and so forth -- are never basic criteria. The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire.”
-- Robert A Heinlein
#19. To: Rek (#17)
I guess you don't read too well.
Political tags -- such as royalist, communist, democrat, populist, fascist, liberal, conservative, and so forth -- are never basic criteria. The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire.”
-- Robert A Heinlein
#20. To: A K A Stone (#16)
Nixon was pro America at least.
#21. To: Rek (#20)
#22. To: Rek (#15)
(Edited)
You forgot his wage and price controls, more of that 'statism' he was 'fighting'. lolol
Political tags -- such as royalist, communist, democrat, populist, fascist, liberal, conservative, and so forth -- are never basic criteria. The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire.”
-- Robert A Heinlein
#23. To: Ignore Amos (#19)
No - you don't write too well.
#24. To: Ignore Amos (#22)
#25. To: Rek (#23)
Your parsing and lack of understanding of the English language in context is really getting tiresome.
Political tags -- such as royalist, communist, democrat, populist, fascist, liberal, conservative, and so forth -- are never basic criteria. The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire.”
-- Robert A Heinlein
#26. To: Ignore Amos (#25)
(Edited)
Your bullshit attitude, my friend, is what is tiresome
#27. To: Rek (#26)
I want to see you do more cutting and pasting.
Political tags -- such as royalist, communist, democrat, populist, fascist, liberal, conservative, and so forth -- are never basic criteria. The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire.”
-- Robert A Heinlein
#28. To: Ignore Amos (#14)
There were no gas lines here during Ford or Carter.
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