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Title: Japan struggling to 'cool down' nuclear plant, minister says
Source: CNN
URL Source: http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/03/11/japan.nuclear/index.html
Published: Mar 11, 2011
Author: CNN
Post Date: 2011-03-11 13:46:01 by go65
Keywords: None
Views: 14531
Comments: 23

Tokyo (CNN) -- Officials ordered an evacuation Friday of residents living near a Japanese nuclear power plant, saying there has been no sign yet of leaks but indicating a struggle to "cool down" the facility.

An 8.9-magnitude earthquake led to cooling problems at one nuclear power plant and a fire at another, both of which were close to the quake's epicenter, government officials said.

Late Friday, Chief Cabinet Secretary Yukio Edano told reporters that people within 2 to 3 kilometers (1.2 to 1.8 miles) of the Fukushima Daiichi power plant had been told to leave the area. Those farther away - - within 3 to 10 kilometers -- were asked to stay home. Japan's Kyodo News Agency estimated that the evacuation order directly affected about 3,000 people.

"This is a precautionary instruction for people to evacuate," Edano said. "There is no radioactive leakage at this moment outside of the facility."

U.S. President Barack Obama said Friday that Japanese Prime Minister Naoto Kan told him there was no evidence so far of radiation leaks from nuclear reactors because of the earthquake and tsunami, an assertion also made by Edano earlier in the day.

Yet Edano said the Fukushima Daiichi reactor "remains at a high temperature" because it "cannot cool down." Kyodo reported Friday that the radiation level was rising in a turbine building at the plant.

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#1. To: All (#0)

they may have to release radioactive vapor to avoid a meltdown. Terrible situation.

go65  posted on  2011-03-11   13:46:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: go65 (#1)

I want to make a Godzilla joke but it's not funny.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-03-11   14:35:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Godwinson (#2)

No Nukes! Nuclear power is never a good idea.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-03-11   20:08:22 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Ferret Mike, mcgowanjm (#5)

[7:45 p.m. ET, 9:45 a.m. Tokyo] Œ79;Potentially dangerous problems cooling radioactive material appear to have cropped up at another of the Tokyo Electric Power Company's nuclear plants. Kyodo reported Saturday the power company alerted authorities that the cooling system at three of the four units of its Fukushima Daini plant – which is different from the Fukushima Daiichi reactors, nearby in northeastern Japan in the Fukushima prefecture – has failed.

The news agency also reported Saturday that Japan's nuclear safety agency ordered the power company to release a valve in the Fukushima Daiichi plant's "No. 1" reactor, in order to release growing pressure. This comes amid Kyodo's reports, citing the same Japanese agency, that radiation levels were 1,000 times above normal in the the control room of that facility's "No. 1" reactor.

go65  posted on  2011-03-11   22:04:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: go65 (#7)

German TV N24: Japanese gov says it´s possibly already a meltdown happening, evacuating 20km around the plants.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-03-12   7:59:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: All (#9)

RE: Nuclear Power plant Onagawa on fire, Fukushima malfunctions The Japanese are masters of obfuscation. They are covering up like crazy. Everything they've said about the unstable reactors has been a lie so far. They say no radiation, then radiation is detected etc. They don't want to lose face Internationally, and this is a recipe for disaster. They said on NHK that the explosion didn't damage the reactor, it was just the 'walls falling down'. This is getting surreal.

"...there is nothing as dreamy and poetic, nothing as radical, subversive, and psychedelic, as mathematics." ~ Paul Lockhart.

Watch California get nervous about their nukes. 8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-03-12   8:43:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: All (#10)

This lady knows what she's talkin' about.

Been following her for well over 5 years now. ;}

"I just analyzed the video of the Japanese nuclear power plant blowing up. It was a nuclear explosion. What I saw, and you can see very, very briefly is the first wave of energy shooting upwards, at a 45 degree angle from the #1 nuclear core: it is an extremely fast moving energy wave shaped like a bow, shoving the atmosphere ahead of it. No smoke. Just a deformation in the atmosphere. Then the smoke wells up.

We are definitely in a nuclear meltdown catastrophe, one that many of us fretted about in the past, worried and for good reason, about the wisdom of setting down nuclear power plants in one of the world’s least geologically stable countries."

emsnews.wordpress.com/201...ore-collapses/#more-10392

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-03-12   8:59:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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Hondo68  posted on  2011-03-12   10:06:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: hondo68 (#12)

And I don't ever recall:

'Only after the 'Outer Containment building explodes will the real danger begin.'

I keep remembering how long the chernobyl story took to come out.

While there's a camera on this one.

And who are they giving iodide to if they've evac'ed everyone.

And just the dead in that 1 train, all dead, lifts the death toll by 100 at least.

Latest, zerohedge

"Post Sat Mar 12, 2011 10:59 am by mcgowanjm Some smart guys over at ZeroHedge.

Looking for 'CPL' from last nite. Soem engineers trying to calm people down, then this:

by Stuck on Zero on Sat, 03/12/2011 - 10:05 #1044201

Breaching the containment structure is a DISASTER! That's the last protection in the event of meltdown. Downplay it all you want that's a mess. Also, any force large enough to blow three feet of reinforced concrete apart must have also damaged internals to the reactor building. It means all the coolant spray heads in the roof are knocked out and stean carrying radictive particles is free to roam the countryside. What's worse is that only a breach of the primary coolant lines could have caused this much damage. They can try filling what remains of the dome with water but how will they circulate it? Worst of all, the radiation levels are high enough now that they can't get workers in to make temporary patches. I wouldn't want to be anywhere near this old 1971 reactor.

Which is a nice summary of my quotes above. And just where is all of that now radioactive seawater going.

I'm looking at China Syndrome, with water table polluted. Looking forward to being proven wrong.

"More on Japan’s atomic emergency from Edwin Lyman, a nuclear expert for the Global Security Programme at the Union of Concerned Scientists:

The events that occurred at these plants, which is the loss of both offsite power and onsite power, is one of the rarest events to happen in a nuclear power plant, and all indications are that the Japanese do not have the situation under control.

Japanese authorities are trying to avoid the cooling system failure from turning into catastrophe by venting radioactive gas and evacuating people, he explains.

The calculation at this point is that if you reduce pressure now by venting, you’re reducing the risk of a catastrophic rupture, which could lead to an increase in radiation of thousands of times what it would be through the vents.

But a severe aftershock could undermine these efforts, a possibility that has laid bare a fatal flaw in readiness for the scenario that is now playing out in Japan.

I don’t think any regulatory agency anywhere takes into account the possibility of repeated severe aftershocks (at least one 6.8 last nite).

Nuclear experts believe that the situation was out of control from the time the battery systems and diesel units used to power the coolant had shutdown. There is no potential way in which such units can be revived in 24 hours. Japan was staring at a Nuclear explosion and we thought things could not get worse than this."

dawnwires.com/politics/co...l-dead-radiation-leakage/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-03-12   11:08:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#1044219

Disaster speak: one worker has been transferred to hospital for treatment of low level radiation (From SkyNews). Lol. Nobody gets treated for low level irradiation. There is no treatment.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-03-12   11:10:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: All (#14)

As you have seen in recent news events of the last few hours America is sending an emergency team to insert coolant into the reactor. Unfortunately I believe it could go beyond that and if a coolant is added at this stage an exothermal gaseous explosive event could take place. My advice to the Americans and the Japanese would be to use thousands of tons of sand which on contact with the molten fission material would melt and the by-product of this would be radioactive glass containing fission material. This would be similar to what they did in Chernobyl, and if they hadn't done this the disaster would have been far worse than we could imagine.

As you know, dear friend, I am not into disaster theories and predictions of doom.

quote above.

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