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Title: Roubini Predicts Oil Will Hit $150 Per Barrel, Traders Betting On $200
Source: Forbes
URL Source: http://blogs.forbes.com/chrisbarth/ ... barrel-traders-betting-on-200/
Published: Mar 7, 2011
Author: Chris Barth
Post Date: 2011-03-08 09:08:54 by Happy Quanzaa
Keywords: Obamanomics in Action
Views: 36351
Comments: 41

“Oil price shocks have led to US recessions in 1974-75, 1980, 1990, 2001 and 2008-2009. 3 of these were caused by Mid East political shocks,” notoriously bearish economist Nouriel Roubini wrote on his Twitter account at the end of February.

Last Wednesday, he made another bold prediction: “If troubles spread to other countries such as Bahrain and Saudi Arabia, this could push oil prices up to $140 to $150 per barrel, which could trigger a double-dip recession in the periphery of Europe and the U.K.”

While the predicted oil price may seem shock-worthy, the correlation of oil prices and recession should not. As James Hamilton, an Economics Professor at the University of California, San Diego, wrote last year, rising oil prices are a potential retardant to economic recovery, both in the automotive sector as well as across consumer spending in general.

“I could certainly imagine that an abrupt move up in gasoline prices from here could hurt the struggling recovery of the domestic auto sector and dampen overall consumer spending,” Hamilton wrote in a fascinating post on EconBrowser.com. “I do not think it would be enough to give us a second economic downturn, but it could easily be a factor reducing the growth rate.”

Hamilton wrote that statement when oil prices had just pushed past $90/barrel. Now, price per barrel is at its highest level in over two years, and Roubini, known for his gloom and doom predictions, says the tough ride is just beginning. According to Forbes’ Robert Lenzner, Roubini’s predicted price of $150/barrel could take 2% out of the U.S. GDP.

It seems that plenty of traders agree with Roubini’s bearish outlook. A chart published today by Bloomberg shows a sharp increase in traders buying call options on $200/barrel oil futures, which expire on May 17th.

When Roubini sat down with Steve Forbes in January, he made predictions about the future of the U.S. economy. Thus far, he has been proven wrong about his take on unemployment, which he stated would remain above 9%.

He also, however, predicted a U.S. GDP growth of 2.7% this year, below the consensus of 3.2%. If oil prices continue to rise and the U.S. economy responds negatively, Dr. Doom could find himself in the rare position of having been overly bullish.

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#1. To: Happy Quanzaa (#0)

Nope.

Cause $4+ gasoline, you might as well make it ten, for all the Bottom 98% can afford it.

$3.50 plus is causing major problems now.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-03-08   9:51:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: mcgowanjm (#1)

Nope.

Cause $4+ gasoline, you might as well make it ten, for all the Bottom 98% can afford it.

I talked to a Shell Oil guy yesterday, he says 5.00 dollar diesel probably by May.

He also mentioned an engine that sounds interesting. It was patented in 1919 and uses the slightest difference in temperatures as it's energy source and also involves creating steam. He says they will unvealing it in a more modernized version probably within a few months as the original patented version looks too similiar to an old steam engine.

Is anyone else here familiar with this engine?

Rek  posted on  2011-03-08   11:23:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Rek (#11)

1. Use a heat pump(ground source, or air source in the right climate), to concentrate heat.

2. Use the concentrated heat in a boiler to generate steam.

3. Use the steam to drive a piston steam engine.

4. The steam engine then drives an electric generator.

5. Hopefully, the generator would produce more electricity than the heat pump and associated equipment need.

This sounds like a locomotive, and the boiler will be the critical part.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-03-08   11:51:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: mcgowanjm (#16)

Use a heat pump(ground source, or air source in the right climate), to concentrate heat.

I think he meant it uses 'the difference in temperatures between two objects' as the power source and could be powered by the difference between one's finger and the engine when one's finger is placed on it. I'm elaborating a little now. The conversation wasn't very long or involved.

Rek  posted on  2011-03-08   12:05:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Rek (#20)

Well then that's impossible.

Sounds like a perpetual motion machine then. The 2nd law of thermodynamics is heat goes to cold.

And/or we haven't got time to retrofit a liquid energy source/combustion engine.

It's got to be taken off the shelf or spread like wildfire on it's own.

That's all we got. $105 the bbl. $3.52 to $4 if Libya's refineries start blowing up.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-03-08   12:15:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: mcgowanjm, Rek (#21)

Well then that's impossible.

No, its possible. See the video I linked above where the Sterling works from the heat generated from the hand.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-03-08   12:24:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Godwinson (#22) (Edited)

No, its possible. See the video I linked above where the Sterling works from the heat generated from the hand.

That twin compression one is quite impressive. I like this one too. The comments are enlightening. Seems some of the critics didn't realize their gas engines needed starters too.

Rek  posted on  2011-03-08   12:41:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Rek (#23)

That twin compression one is quite impressive. I like this one too.

What's in the 'coffee cup.'

And I'll take whatever warmed the 'coffee cup'.

You can have the stirling. Like I said, if you got it, bring it now. Cause we've got Libyan Oil output dis appearing by the day now.

"Israel is the desperate state here. 40% of it's gas has been shut off by Egypt.

Israel has to make the move, along with Jordan.

The Latest news:

Confirmation Reuters (still looking for Reuters but I trust ZeroHedge;}

"reuters three plumes of black smoke are rising from the area around As Sider oil terminal"

* Rebels told Reuters on Tuesday they were in control of the front line port town of Es Sider, although it was not possible to independently confirm their presence there.

of #Kaddafi snipers killed today in Zawiyah is a Russian Mercenary. His Cell phone had the numbers of other snipers #Libya

Qaddafi sent three jets with major generals to meet Tanawi/Israel in Egypt this AM.

The point:

The Rebels now have control of all refineries. And nearly all pipelines.

Qaddafis overthrow is now just a matter of time.

And the price of oil. And I remember every lie the West told yesterday.

LMFAO 8D

If the West attacks, it's because the Rebels are in control, and the West dears the new arrangement. I've noted how oil stabilizes/goes down with Qaddafi 'good news' and up with rebel 'good news'.

Repeat:

With news from ZeroHedge/Reuters of smoke coming from around As Sider Refinery, Libya's largest, the Rebels now control All refineries in Libya. And you can wait for the US Empire to collapse before the USSA MSM tells you that. :twisted: :roll: 8-)

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