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Title: Facing America's Shadow State (under the spell of dark propagandists)
Source: The Excavator
URL Source: http://disquietreservations.blogspo ... ing-americas-shadow-state.html
Published: Mar 7, 2011
Author: Saman Mohammadi
Post Date: 2011-03-07 15:05:18 by Hondo68
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Keywords: tyrannizing America, deep state forces, acts of treason and betrayal
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Supporters of President Barack Obama often say that he is a "deep" thinker, but, how deep a thinker is he when he has failed to look into the crimes and human rights violations that occurred under the Bush administration? Normally, deep thinkers look into the dark past of their society, not avoid it, because they know that you can't move forward without facing the past first. Dealing with the shadows can be a healing process if done right. Nations, like individuals, experience trauma and dark days, and covering them up only makes the problems worse.

Obama decided to "look forward, not backward," a decision that was more than an error in judgment. It was an act of treason and betrayal. America needed a Lincoln, or a King, but instead it got a two-faced con artist. There is nothing "deep" about Obama's intellect. A deep thinker doesn't keep his country in hell but leads it towards purgatory. A deep thinker doesn't need a teleprompter to speak his/her mind. I'm not even sure that Obama has an independent mind. Neither did Bush, Clinton, or Reagan. As President of the world's only superpower, these men have spoken not their own thoughts, but officialdom's thoughts. Obama, Bush, Clinton, and Reagan are not leaders in any sense of the term.

Obama, like Bush, is little brother, not Big Brother. But they're not innocent little followers, either. Obama, also like Bush, has a lot of blood on his hands. Instead of bringing members of the Bush administration to justice for torture, secret arrests, unlawful detention, war crimes, state terrorism, and treason, and introducing reforms that address the failures of the U.S. justice system and banking system, Obama has continued Bush's most undemocratic and treasonous policies.

Moving forward, the American people must face their shadowy past with or without their current national leaders. The biggest shadow in America that must be faced is America's shadow state.

America's shadow state wasn't built in a day. It has operated behind the veil of democracy for more than six decades, and perhaps even longer. Professor and author Peter Dale Scott says in his article, "9/11, Deep State Violence and the Hope of Internet Politics," that "there has existed, at least since World War Two if not earlier, an analogous American deep state, also combining intelligence officials with elements from the drug-trafficking underworld." Defining the deep state is difficult, but not impossible. Scott says the term deep state "is used to refer to a closed network said to be more powerful than the public state. The deep state engages and false-flag violence, is organized by the military and intelligence apparatus, and involves their links to organized crime." He has expanded on this definition, and developed his insights in his many books, and articles. In his article, "The Doomsday Project, Deep Events, and the Shrinking of American Democracy," Scott writes:
We are conditioned to think that the open institutions of American governance could not possibly provide a milieu for plots like 9/11 against public order. But since World War Two covert U.S. agencies like the CIA have helped create an alternative world where power is exercised with minimal oversight, often at odds with public agencies' proclaimed policy objectives of law and order, and often in conjunction with lawless and even criminal foreign and domestic elements.
America's deep state triggered the 9/11 attacks in order to advance its interests at home and abroad. The 9/11 attacks allowed the deep state to go even deeper, launched new trillion-dollar wars, and justified the curtailment of American freedoms under the cover of fighting terrorism.

Scott says that what happened on 9/11 wasn't a takeover of America's constitutional republic, because the takeover had already occurred decades before. Rather, the final nail in the coffin was drilled in by the Bush administration. Ten years later, the Obama administration is applying sandpaper to smooth out the edges, and prepare the way for America's funeral.

An excerpt from Prof. Peter Dale Scott's article "9/11, Deep State Violence and the Hope of Internet Politics":
However to call 9/11 a coup d'état exaggerates the difference between the current weakened condition of the public state, and the prior state of affairs that has been building for years, indeed for decades, towards just such a dénouement. For half a century the constitution and laws of the open or public state have been first evaded, then eroded, then increasingly challenged and subverted, by the forces of the deep state. I wish to suggest that this erosion has been achieved in part through a series of important deep events in post-war American history -- events aspects of which (it is clear from the outset) will be ignored or suppressed in the mainstream media.

Recent history has seen a number of such events, such as the assassination of John F. Kennedy, that are so inexplicable by the public notions of American politics that most Americans tend not even to think of them. Instead most accept the official surface explanations for them, even if they suspect these are not true. Or if others say they believe that "Oswald acted alone," they may do so in the same comforting but irrational state of mind that believes God will reward the righteous and punish the wicked.

Thus on the one hand we must see that America has reached a condition where traditional civil rights are flagrantly restricted as never before -- as when former Attorney General Gonzalez told a shocked congressional committee that "There is no expressed grant of habeas corpus in the Constitution." At the same time, we must see that 9/11, as an unexplained or deep event nudging us away from constitutional normalcy and into an unnecessary permanent state of war, is not unprecedented. It is one of a series of similar unexplained events, all of which have had similar results, reaching back to the second Tonkin Gulf incident, the Kennedy assassination, even the misremembered outset of the Korean War.

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America's shadow wars wouldn't exist without America's shadow state, and vice versa. The 9/11 attacks, and the current wars in the Middle East cannot be understood unless the existence of America's shadow state is recognized as a fact of life. Scott:
America's three major wars since World War Two -- Korea, Vietnam, and now Iraq -- have all been preceded by deep events that have cumulatively contributed to America's current war-based economy. Looked at in this way, 9/11 falls into a sequence in which it is preceded by the Second Tonkin Gulf Incident and by the intrigues and lies in June 1950 concerning Korea.
Scott views 9/11 as a deep event in a series of deep events. The other notable events are the murder of JFK and the Gulf of Tonkin incident, both of which led to the expansion of the war in Vietnam. Scott:
9/11 is not wholly without precedent in U.S. history. It should be seen not as a unique departure from orderly constitutional government -- a coup d'état -- but as yet another unexplained deep event of the sort that has continued to erode the American constitutional system of open politics and civil liberties.
U.S. state intelligence agencies, especially the CIA, are focused primarily on keeping a lid on America's shadow state and ensuring its mega-profits schemes are kept alive, not national security. Scott says that the CIA's machinations in the cover-up of the JFK assassination and the 9/11 attacks prove conclusively that its fingerprints are all over both of the crime scenes. Scott:
And without understanding the details, we can safely conclude that operations of the CIA -- the deep state -- were somehow implicated, whether innocently or conspiratorially, in the background of both the JFK assassination and 9/11. With respect to the CIA's withholding of information from the FBI about Oswald, even a former CIA officer, Jane Roman, has agreed that this indicates "some sort of [CIA] operational interest in Oswald's file."33 Lawrence Wright, commenting in The New Yorker about the CIA's analogous withholding of information about al-Mihdar, has reached the similar conclusion that "The CIA may also have been protecting an overseas operation and was afraid that the F.B.I. would expose it."
It is painfully obvious that people inside America's shadow state manipulates events, and hide their asses behind a veil of secrecy, propaganda, and disinformation. This reality is not unique to America alone. Turkey has long dealt with its deep state forces, but at least it is acknowledging the fact that constitutional and democratic reforms need to be put in place to secure Turkish democracy. Wherever we look around the world, we find that state intelligence agencies are incubators of state terrorism, treasonous conspiracies, and tyranny. "An intelligence service is the ideal vehicle for a conspiracy," said Allen Dulles, who served as the Director of the CIA from 1953-1961, in his book "Germany's Underground: The Anti-Nazi Resistance."

Veterans Today's senior editor Gordon Duff wrote a pretty good summary of how America's shadow state came into being in his article "The Quiet Coup: Creating America's Shadow State." Duff says that there is "little room for assumptions," about the existence of a shadow government in the United States. Duff:
The mechanism of entropy, corruption, economic collapse and the drug empire in Afghanistan, there is little doubt anymore. Forces well outside any political system envisioned by the Founding Fathers control America, forces capable of side-stepping or overruling any elected official or any law, up to and including, even especially, the Constitution of the United States of America.

Normally, the "shadow government" covers its tracks we, as members of the 9/11 Commission have been shouting from the rooftops for years. Even when it doesn't, secrecy and censorship step in, always "protecting" the public from the problems created by, well, created by censorship and secrecy.

Facing America's shadow state means facing the most difficult political crisis in American history. But failing to do anything is national suicide for America. Since the powers behind this shadow state actively sow chaos and thrive on national and international disorder, the clear solution is exposing their trickster's hand, and working to bring order and peace into the world. But, first, we must bring understanding, and order into our minds. This means we must get over our denial that secret government forces were behind 9/11, and take off our blinders. Peter Dale Scott and other researchers have provided us with a historical perspective, making it easier for us to understand why 9/11 happened, and how the perpetrators were able to get away with it for so long.

The fact that America is not free must first be accepted. It is under the spell of dark propagandists, secret conspirators, and official myth-makers. Professor John Kozy says in his article, "Liberty's Easy Slide into Tyranny," that in the modern state, tyrannical and democratic forces can operate side be side. The state's secret instruments enables special interests and powerful cliques to commit horrible crimes, treasonous in nature, and not face any punishment. Kozy:

The FED, CIA, Executive Privilege, The Patriot Act, Homeland Security, and more, by themselves, are bad but not disastrous. Together, however, they are the tools of tyranny that are tyrannizing America, because they provide people who are not answerable to the people with powers that can be and often are abused. It happens because those who implement ideas that seem sound never ask what happens when the powers these ideas entail fall into the hands of the unscrupulous.

The insidiousness of these tyrannical tools is that they can exist amid the trappings of democracy, along with political parties and regular elections. The result is a tyrannical nation masquerading as a democracy.

All of these agencies as part of the executive branch act secretly. And we have forgotten that, "Secrecy, being an instrument of conspiracy, ought never to be the system of a regular government."--Jeremy Bentham

That America is a "tyrannical nation masquerading as a democracy" means the state of the union is schizophrenic. America is two nations. There is a mental civil war going on. Which side will win? The answer is up in the air.

Peter Dale Scott says that 9/11--along with other deep events, the ongoing imperial wars in the Middle East, the destruction of civil liberties and other attacks against the constitution represents a constitutional crisis in America. Abraham Lincoln foresaw this crisis. He said:
I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country. Corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money-power of the country will endeavor to prolong it's reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed.
Sooner or later, this crisis must be faced, and resolved. It will not pass without conflict. No nation can maintain two identities at once for very long. America will either be freed, and its constitutional republic restored, or it will be enslaved and destroyed to the point that the old republic will be ancient history.
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#1. To: hondo68 (#0)

Supporters of President Barack Obama often say that he is a "deep" thinker, but, how deep a thinker is he when he has failed to look into the crimes and human rights violations that occurred under the Bush administration?

It's all the same filthy empire.

"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-03-07   15:52:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: hondo68 (#0)

Like Epstein.

Under British Law, there is no plea deal available for pedophiles.

US? sure. How much money you got. 8D

" My father left and I was told to go upstairs.’ She was led by another woman through Epstein’s bedroom into a massage room where he lay face down naked on a table.

He started to interviewed Virginia. This was unconventional, but Virginia had no suspicions. Presumably, she thought, this was how the wealthy conducted their business.

Epstein elicited the information that Virginia had been a runaway, and was no longer a virgin.

Virginia was then told to start massaging Epstein, under the instructions of the woman who had shown her in. The massage quickly developed into a sexual encounter.

Virginia was uncomfortable, but reluctant to deny such important people. ‘My face was red with embarrassment,’ she says. ‘But I felt under immense pressure to please them.

Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/...et-him.html#ixzz1G1ou8CwJ

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-03-08   12:03:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: hondo68 (#0) (Edited)

Complexity consumes itself now.

For 500 years and then the discovery of oil, The system 'functioned.

No longer.

Complexity as a function of finance, therefore, is perhaps measured best by levels of global wealth inequality, and as mentioned before, these levels are still getting worse (more unequal). However, there comes a tipping point at which an overly-complex system begins to consume itself, as the peripheral networks and central hubs become less stable and less attached to the overall structure of the system. In this sense, the more damaging a crisis is to the ability of populations around the world to maintain their relative share of the global wealth pie, meager as it may be, the more difficult it will be for existing financial elites to maintain global complexity, order and control.

theautomaticearth.blogspot.com/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-03-08   12:07:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: mcgowanjm (#3)

the more damaging a crisis is to the ability of populations around the world to maintain their relative share of the global wealth pie, meager as it may be, the more difficult it will be for existing financial elites to maintain global complexity, order and control

The NWO is doomed to failure. Now eat your bowl of Chinese plastic rice, food substitute and STFU. ~{;^)


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

I recall a re-run of MASH I saw where this uber right winger named Colonel Flagg...
Godwinson posted on 2011-02-23 11:47:32 ET
http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=18011&Disp=46#C46

Hondo68  posted on  2011-03-08   13:09:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: hondo68 (#4)

bowl of Chinese plastic rice

And I really couldn't believe that one.

Cardboard was too expensive? 8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-03-09   9:23:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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