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Title: Government posts biggest monthly deficit ever
Source: The Washington Times
URL Source: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news ... -biggest-monthly-deficit-ever/
Published: Mar 7, 2011
Author: Stephen Dinan
Post Date: 2011-03-07 13:31:50 by Happy Quanzaa
Keywords: Obamanomics in Action
Views: 25519
Comments: 35

The federal government posted its largest monthly deficit in history in February at $223 billion, according to preliminary numbers the Congressional Budget Office released Monday morning.

That figure tops last February’s record of $220.9 billion, and marks the 29th straight month the government has run in the red — a modern record. The last time the federal government posted even a monthly surplus was September 2008, just before the financial collapse.

Last month’s federal deficit is nearly four times as large as the spending cuts House Republicans have passed in their spending bill, and is more than 30 times the size of Senate Democrats’ opening bid of $6 billion.

Senators are slated to vote this week on those two proposals — both of which are expected to fail — and then all sides will go back to the negotiating table to try to work out a final deal.

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#1. To: Happy Quanzaa (#0) (Edited)

the GOP has been in control of spending for what, 2 months now? And of course before they took office they agreed on a 2-year tax cut extension that added $858 billion to the deficit.

So no problem then right?

go65  posted on  2011-03-07   14:09:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: go65 (#1)

added $858 billion to the deficit

Over 10 years. That's $85 billion a year. The deficit this year alone is $1.65 TRILLION. Take the tax cut out and the deficit this year is still $1.565 TRILLION.

Tax revenues aren't the problem. Spending is the problem.

jwpegler  posted on  2011-03-07   16:20:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: jwpegler (#2)

Over 10 years. That's $85 billion a year. The deficit this year alone is $1.65 TRILLION. Take the tax cut out and the deficit this year is still $1.565 TRILLION.

No, the tax deal enacted in December raised the deficit $858 billion over 2 years by extending the Bush tax cuts and enacting a new round of payroll tax cuts.

go65  posted on  2011-03-07   18:41:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: go65 (#4)

No, the tax deal enacted in December raised the deficit $858 billion over 2 years by extending the Bush tax cuts and enacting a new round of payroll tax cuts.

The tax cuts for the top 2% income earners (which is what Democrats are pissing and moaning about) cost $41 billion a year. The government deficit will be $1,652 billion this year alone. Raising taxes on that top 2% wouldn't have done squat to close the deficit. The deficit still would have been over $1,600 billion this year.

jwpegler  posted on  2011-03-07   18:51:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: jwpegler (#6)

The tax cuts for the top 2% income earners (which is what Democrats are pissing and moaning about) cost $41 billion a year. The government deficit will be $1,652 billion this year alone. Raising taxes on that top 2% wouldn't have done squat to close the deficit. The deficit still would have been over $1,600 billion this year.

Extending the "entire" tax cut, plus adding new tax cuts, raised the cost of the package to $858 billion over 2 years.

The deficit would be over $400 billion lower this year if we went back to Clinton-era tax rates.

go65  posted on  2011-03-07   20:10:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: go65 (#9)

The deficit would be over $400 billion lower this year if we went back to Clinton-era tax rates.

That would still leave us $1,250 billion in the hole this year.

When Clinton left office, federal spending was 19% of the GDP. Federal tax revenues were 19% of GDP.

Today, federal spending is 25% of GDP and tax revenues are 17.6% of GDP.

Spending is the issue.

jwpegler  posted on  2011-03-07   20:23:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: jwpegler (#10) (Edited)

That would still leave us $1,250 billion in the hole this year.

True, but if we eliminate foreign aid and poison control centers we can balance the budget, just ask any tea partier. :-)

I'll keep telling you, we won't balance the budget through spending cuts, we'll balance it through growth.

Today, federal spending is 25% of GDP and tax revenues are 17.6% of GDP.

True, that's because we had one the worst recession since the depression.

go65  posted on  2011-03-07   22:04:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: go65, jwpegler (#11)

I'll keep telling you, we won't balance the budget through spending cuts, we'll balance it through growth.

Is jwpegler still defending the proven false theory of trickle down? Where cutting taxes spurs growth? Because that never worked and when Clinton raised taxes it did not stop the economy from being hotter than ever.

I can't tell what fantasy world preconceived notions are being bandied about by so called conservatives in these discussions. It seems that realists like us argue on Copernican basis while the so called conservatives on these forums adhere to a Ptolemaic world view - in other words - a world of false assumptions not based on actual observational facts.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-03-08   9:28:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Godwinson (#13)

Clinton cut the Capital Gains tax rate by almost 30% in 1997. Economic growth accelerated after that.

Also, the 1990s was the beginning of the internet boom as well as the era when personal computers finally started making a big difference in business productivity.

jwpegler  posted on  2011-03-08   10:51:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: jwpegler, godwinson (#16)

Clinton cut the Capital Gains tax rate by almost 30% in 1997. Economic growth accelerated after that.

Clinton raised taxes in 1993 as part of an effort to reduce the deficit. Here's the result:

go65  posted on  2011-03-08   12:59:44 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: go65, jwpegler (#18)

Carter did OK on the economy - Reagan was only .1 more than Carter. Bush and son both had similar numbers. LOL!

Godwinson  posted on  2011-03-08   13:16:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Godwinson (#19)

Carter did OK on the economy

17% inflation and 21% home mortgage interest rates were ok??? Maybe by banana republic standards.

You're talking out of your ass again as usual.

jwpegler  posted on  2011-03-08   13:32:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: jwpegler (#21)

17% inflation and 21% home mortgage interest rates were ok??? Maybe by banana republic standards.

Do you really believe the employment/inflation stats of the last three to four administrations? According to you guys Carter was probably the last truthful president.

21% mortgages and not a foreclosure in sight. And I thought you free market traders included banking too.

Rek  posted on  2011-03-08   13:40:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Rek, jwpegler (#22)

17% inflation and 21% home mortgage interest rates were ok??? Maybe by banana republic standards.

A banana republic standard is what we have now where we have lopsided wealth distribution.

And back then under Carter we had less credit card debts and few home foreclosures and the dollar of today is worth less than it was under Carter. Reagan era ushered in the credit card debt era and the % of interest on credit card is worse than usury.

Also, homes were more affordable back in Carter's era as were autos.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-03-08   13:44:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Godwinson (#23) (Edited)

And credit card interest was tax deductible under Carter, but Reagan bargained that away. Now it's a hidden double tax, but more importantly it's a tax on those small enough to need credit at the higher rates. Another squeeze by the bankers on the middle class.

Rek  posted on  2011-03-08   14:11:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Rek (#25)

And no budget deficit under Carter

Godwinson  posted on  2011-03-08   14:34:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Godwinson (#26) (Edited)

And no budget deficit under Carter

Talking out of your a-hole again. What a surprise. Carter ran substantial deficits as a percentage of GDP. Certainly not as substantial as Obama. But Carter never had balanced budget. There were no Republicans to stop him from doing so. He had a 100% Democrat Congress.

AND 17% inflation and 21% home mortgage rates.

Let's not forgot those 55 American Hostages rotting away for more than a year in Iraq.

Carter almost single-handily destroyed America. I was there. I know.

jwpegler  posted on  2011-03-08   19:47:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: jwpegler, go65 (#28)

And no budget deficit under Carter Talking out of your a-hole again. What a surprise. Carter ran substantial deficits as a percentage of GDP.

Carter decreased the debt of Nixon/Ford he inherited by -3.3%.

Suck on the truth. It will set you free.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-03-09   0:32:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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