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Title: 82 year old WWII vet fired for saying "faggot"
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URL Source: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/ ... slip_at_MOZ5751swgmYDMmAS8SVWK
Published: Mar 7, 2011
Author: CHRIS ERIKSON
Post Date: 2011-03-07 07:39:04 by Happy Quanzaa
Keywords: faggot, fudgepacker, butt boys, butt buddies, bunghole boys
Views: 32414
Comments: 37
After 54 years working for American Airlines, Freddy Schmitt says he just wants the same thing the US Army gave him six decades ago -- an honorable discharge. Instead, the 82-year-old WWII vet was handed his walking papers after allegedly using a derogatory term for gays during a workplace bull session about "Don't Ask Don't Tell." The fact that Schmitt was defending gay soldiers' right to serve -- "Back then, a faggot coulda saved my life" -- hasn't changed the airline's decision. Neither has his blemish-free employment record, nor the pleas of former JFK co-workers upset over the axing of their buddy known as "Papa Freddy." Schmitt had little to say about the remark in December that got him fired last month as a ground-crew worker following a suspension and two hearings. He just wishes he could have stayed on the job until November, when he was planning to retire with a milestone under his belt. "It would look nice, going out with 55 years," Schmitt said. "After 54 years, all I want is to go out in good faith." Schmitt is appealing the termination through arbitration, but the process can take months, according to union officials. Nobody disputes that Schmitt -- a baggage crew chief -- used the term, or that the pugnacious Brooklyn native didn't exactly grovel with remorse when reprimanded by a supervisor. But the context should be taken into account, say Schmitt's former airline crewmates. "This guy is like everybody's father here," said co-worker Jack Sullivan, who said it hurts to see his colleague of 26 years tossed out. Under the terms of the firing, Schmitt retains his pension but loses his health benefits -- and the travel privileges his wife of 45 years, Viola, so enjoyed.
'Pink slip' at 82
Airline veteran's gay-slur remorse
Freddy Schmitt
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#1. To: Happy Quanzaa, lucysmom (#0)
What that guy needs is a good union to fight for his rights.........
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
but the process can take months, according to union officials.
Pathetic.
No, what he needs is for the PC faggot mafia in this country to deal with people's right to be disgusted by them and to stop trashing people's lives for disagreeing with them. That's what he needs.
Well, [war's] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over.
Like I said, he could use a strong union that puts the fear of God in employers who fire employees on whims. What happened to this man is exactly the system the Republicans advocate for - employers can fire or abuse employees at their whim and if employees don't like then they should quit.
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
So what do you want, a union strong enough to make firing someone take years instead of months? This is NYC you moron, you're not going to find unions any stronger anywhere in the world. They can't even fire union teachers there no matter how bad they are, they pay union pedophile perverts who have to be removed from the classroom to sit around in the Rubber Room until they're old enough to retire.
Then what happened to this old man is exactly how you want the world to work. So shut up and take it.
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
People like HQ think they know what they want, but haven't really thought it through.
You have the courage to tell the masses what no politician told them: you are inferior and all the improvements in your conditions which you simply take for granted you owe to the efforts of men who are better than you. Ludwig von Mises in a letter to Ayn Rand
People like HQ think they know what they want, but haven't really thought it through. I am going to send a thank you letter to the airline for firing this man and upholding the principal that private businesses are our lords and masters and can do whatever they want to their serf employees. I mean, give these union thug freeloaders like this old man who got fired an inch and pretty soon we are like Cuba..........
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
Only 11.9% of the current labor force is union, so I guess you think the rest gets screwed over on a regular basis????? Is that correct??? I work for a private union and I can be fired at any time..... or should I say laid off.... In my union if you're a POS then you sit on the bench for a long, long time..... I don't have a problem with it because I do my job and help the company make a profit so we're both happy...... If I wasn't doing my job then I would expect to get laid off......
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
Based on the decline in comparative wages these last 30 years all American workers are screwed over. Get used to being the richers bitches.
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
In 1975 I made $1.90 per hr which was minimum wage and couldn't even make a car payment. Now I make $29.15 an hour and can buy a house and 2 cars?????????
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
That Union did pretty good by you yet you shit on them. Shows you the type of ingrate you are.
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
No, we make ur contract to where we are competative with non-union companies. In fact I know some non-union guys who make more than I do.....
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
You remind me of all those tea party idiots who scream about govt socialism but are on social security or some sort of govt assistance and work for the govt at the same time (you can find hundreds of examples on youtube). At this point I consider you and your kind suspect who either are blind followers or just hold positions to be spoilers or these anti govt positions are vieled code words (anti black - probbaly anti- Jewish in the case of teachers). Not saying you are but you are all suspect at this point when a union member who I tricked into admitting he is in a well paying union is attacking unions for wanting the same thing.
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
If I were a mind reader, which I'm not, I'd say he thinks he and his union are the exceptions.
You have the courage to tell the masses what no politician told them: you are inferior and all the improvements in your conditions which you simply take for granted you owe to the efforts of men who are better than you. Ludwig von Mises in a letter to Ayn Rand
So you "think" you tricked me into admitting I was a union member Huh.... ha ha ha ha..... I've lied to you before and you haven't caught on yet, I tell you the truth and you start screaming "Bullshit", "Bullshit"...... Hey Stone you owe me $20, I told you they would rather believe lies than hear the truth.... heres the proof..... I work for a "PRIVATE" union not a state, local or government union, there is a difference. Or don't want to admit that because "you" didn't know the difference, hence calling me a hypocrit.... We don't mooch off of the taxpayers like "your" unions do. My retirements are strictly in mutual funds, no pension funds that the bosses can steal from to help get Retardocrats elected or that the taxpayers have to fund.. We compete directly with non-union companies on a daily basis. In fact quite a few non-union shops are higher in their quotes to do a job than we are...... And some of their people make more money per hr than union shops. We work with each other to try to stay competative so everybody has work to do..... And if you will notice it's not the "Private" unions the governors are attacking its the state and local ones....... and you don't see any of my people protesting with them, they're out working, making money!!!!
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
I am the one who said I tricked you and thanks for admitting you are a liar. Once a liar always one.
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
The guy is 82 years old,and the only reason he was still there is because the union was protecting him. He damn sure wasn't doing any actual physical work.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
Just how many years will he have to be dead before you would agree they don't have to give him a paycheck? This guy is a parasite that has been living on the back of the younger men that do all the work for decades now.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
You are a idiot that doesn't even understand what a private business is,or that they have the right to hire and fire anybody they want.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
You are a idiot that doesn't even understand what a private business is,or that they have the right to hire and fire anybody they want. Like I wrote: Then what happened to this old man is exactly how you want the world to work. So shut up and take it.
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
A young woman called our local radio lawyer because her employer didn't allow his employees to take breaks though he deducted the time from their pay checks, didn't pay them for the hour or two clean-up time after his restaurant closed, and had a habit of approaching them from behind and rubbing his crouch against them. He only hired young women. The young women were afraid to complain to anyone because they needed to work and couldn't afford to be unemployed. That is the kind of abuse that goes on all the time when the employer holds all the cards and the employee has no one to represent him or her. (though after the phone call with the lawyer I have a feeling one particular employer's world is going to change dramatically) It is all well and good to say "go get another job" however it isn't always that easy. Three cheers for the free market that magically corrects itself.
You have the courage to tell the masses what no politician told them: you are inferior and all the improvements in your conditions which you simply take for granted you owe to the efforts of men who are better than you. Ludwig von Mises in a letter to Ayn Rand
I see your anectdotal story: The young women were afraid to complain to anyone because they needed to work and couldn't afford to be unemployed. That is the kind of abuse that goes on all the time when the employer holds all the cards and the employee has no one to represent him or her. (though after the phone call with the lawyer I have a feeling one particular employer's world is going to change dramatically) and I'll raise you one: Wash. Women Complaining of Union Boss Harassment Threatened Sorry to have to break this to you, but we cannot write enough laws and make enough policy to fundamentaly change human nature. The fact that statists cannot get this through their thick skulls is destroying the country.
_____________________________________________________________________________________________ Who said we could? When laws are in place, recourse exists.
You have the courage to tell the masses what no politician told them: you are inferior and all the improvements in your conditions which you simply take for granted you owe to the efforts of men who are better than you. Ludwig von Mises in a letter to Ayn Rand
Who said we could? Good! Let's send Congress home, then. We've certainly got enough laws to last us until the next millenium.
_____________________________________________________________________________________________ Are you the one that posted the video a while back of the guy who runs "People's Cube"? He left the USSR years ago to come here (where freedom supposedly exists) He may be having second thoughts . . .
_____________________________________________________________________________________________ Once a liar always one. I think the point was Liberals love lies and hate the truth...... (come on give the right answer and I'll win another $20).
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
You were right,even if you think what you wrote is morally wrong,comrade. What is morally wrong is a statist SOB like you thinking the government has a right to use force to tell people how to run their private lives. So shut up and take it. Eat shit and die,you neo-Nazi maggot.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
A private business owner has the right to run his business in any manner he wants,but this does NOT mean he has the right to cheat or physically abuse/assault his employees. That is the kind of abuse that goes on all the time when the employer holds all the cards and the employee has no one to represent him or her. That is just your statist state of mind speaking. The first time he tried any of that crap his employees should have told him to stick it up his ass and walked out the door. On top of that they should have called the cops and the labor relations board to report his crimes. People living in a free society have the RIGHT to walk off any job they want any time they want. It is only is the statists societies that you dream of that workers are prisoners.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
I guess its hard for some to imagine how others could be imprisoned by need.
You have the courage to tell the masses what no politician told them: you are inferior and all the improvements in your conditions which you simply take for granted you owe to the efforts of men who are better than you. Ludwig von Mises in a letter to Ayn Rand
People with pride don't allow themselves to be turned into slaves and whores. I have never had a job where there was no limit to the amount of crap I would take off a boss. Several found that out the hard way.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
Well pin a rose on your nose.
You have the courage to tell the masses what no politician told them: you are inferior and all the improvements in your conditions which you simply take for granted you owe to the efforts of men who are better than you. Ludwig von Mises in a letter to Ayn Rand
Don't blame me because you don't have the backbone to stand up for yourself.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
No truer words have ever been spoken.....
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
#2. To: Godwinson (#1)
#3. To: A K A Stone (#2)
(Edited)
What that guy needs is a good union...
...but the process can take months, according to union officials
#4. To: Godwinson (#1)
#5. To: A K A Stone, Happy Quanzaa, Rudgear, lucysmom (#2)
but the process can take months, according to union officials.
#6. To: Godwinson (#5)
process can take months, according to union officials.
#7. To: Happy Quanzaa (#6)
So what do you want, a union strong enough to make firing someone take years instead of months?
#8. To: Godwinson, Happy Quanzaa (#7)
Then what happened to this old man is exactly how you want the world to work. So shut up and take it.
#9. To: lucysmom, Happy Quanzaa (#8)
To: Godwinson, Happy Quanzaa Then what happened to this old man is exactly how you want the world to work. So shut up and take it.
#10. To: Godwinson (#5)
What happened to this man is exactly the system the Republicans advocate for - employers can fire or abuse employees at their whim and if employees don't like then they should quit.
#11. To: CZ82 (#10)
Only 11.9% of the current labor force is union, so I guess you think the rest gets screwed over on a regular basis????? Is that correct???
#12. To: Godwinson (#11)
Based on the decline in comparative wages these last 30 years all American workers are screwed over. Get used to being the richers bitches.
#13. To: CZ82 (#12)
#14. To: Godwinson (#13)
That Union did pretty good by you yet you shit on them. Shows you the type of ingrate you are.
#15. To: CZ82, lucysmom, go65 (#14)
#16. To: Godwinson, CZ82, go65 (#15)
Not saying you are but you are all suspect at this point when a union member who I tricked into admitting he is in a well paying union is attacking unions for wanting the same thing.
#17. To: lucysmom, A K A Stone (#16)
#18. To: CZ82 (#17)
"PRIVATE" union not a state, local or government union
#19. To: CZ82, lucysmom, A K A Stone (#17)
. I've lied to you before and you haven't caught on yet,
#20. To: Happy Quanzaa (#0)
#21. To: Godwinson (#7)
Then what happened to this old man is exactly how you want the world to work. So shut up and take it.
#22. To: Godwinson (#9)
I am going to send a thank you letter to the airline for firing this man and upholding the principal that private businesses are our lords and masters and can do whatever they want to their serf employees.
#23. To: sneakypete (#22)
I am going to send a thank you letter to the airline for firing this man and upholding the principal that private businesses are our lords and masters and can do whatever they want to their serf employees.
#24. To: sneakypete (#22)
You are a idiot that doesn't even understand what a private business is,or that they have the right to hire and fire anybody they want.
#25. To: lucysmom, sneakypete (#24)
A young woman called our local radio lawyer because her employer didn't allow his employees to take breaks though he deducted the time from their pay checks, didn't pay them for the hour or two clean-up time after his restaurant closed, and had a habit of approaching them from behind and rubbing his crouch against them. He only hired young women.
Political tags -- such as royalist, communist, democrat, populist, fascist, liberal, conservative, and so forth -- are never basic criteria. The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire.”
-- Robert A Heinlein
#26. To: Ignore Amos (#25)
Sorry to have to break this to you, but we cannot write enough laws and make enough policy to fundamentaly change human nature.
#27. To: lucysmom, Ignore Amos (#26)
When laws are in place, recourse exists.
#28. To: lucysmom (#26)
Sorry to have to break this to you, but we cannot write enough laws and make enough policy to fundamentaly change human nature.
Political tags -- such as royalist, communist, democrat, populist, fascist, liberal, conservative, and so forth -- are never basic criteria. The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire.”
-- Robert A Heinlein
#29. To: Happy Quanzaa (#27)
Political tags -- such as royalist, communist, democrat, populist, fascist, liberal, conservative, and so forth -- are never basic criteria. The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire.”
-- Robert A Heinlein
#30. To: Godwinson (#19)
I am the one who said I tricked you and thanks for admitting you are a liar.
#31. To: Godwinson (#23)
Like I wrote: Then what happened to this old man is exactly how you want the world to work.
#32. To: lucysmom (#24)
A young woman called our local radio lawyer because her employer didn't allow his employees to take breaks though he deducted the time from their pay checks, didn't pay them for the hour or two clean-up time after his restaurant closed, and had a habit of approaching them from behind and rubbing his crouch against them. He only hired young women.
#33. To: sneakypete (#32)
People living in a free society have the RIGHT to walk off any job they want any time they want. It is only is the statists societies that you dream of that workers are prisoners.
#34. To: lucysmom (#33)
I guess its hard for some to imagine how others could be imprisoned by need.
#35. To: sneakypete (#34)
I have never had a job where there was no limit to the amount of crap I would take off a boss. Several found that out the hard way.
#36. To: lucysmom (#35)
Well pin a rose on your nose.
#37. To: sneakypete (#36)
Don't blame me because you don't have the backbone to stand up for yourself.
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