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Title: Another Idiot from Ohio
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American Thinker
URL Source: http://www.americanthinker.com/blog ... tor_brown_says_hitler_and.html
Published: Mar 4, 2011
Author: Rick Moran
Post Date: 2011-03-04 19:53:59 by CZ82
Keywords: None
Views: 14815
Comments: 25
Senator Sherrod Brown isn't the first Democrat to bring up Hitler and Stalin comparisons to Republicans who want public union reforms. The signs all over the Madison protests made the comparison too: The Hill: Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio) took to the Senate floor Thursday to defend labor unions, saying that dictators like Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin opposed them. Brown said that unions have wrongly come under attack from Republicans and conservatives, who are pitting workers against one another in states like his, where governments are taking action on anti-union legislation. Though he said he was not making a direct comparison, Brown claimed that "some of the worst governments we've ever had" have opposed labor unions. "As a nation, I look back in history and some of the worst governments we've ever had, you know one of the the first thing they did? They went after the trade unions," he said. "Hitler didn't want unions, Stalin didn't want unions. That simply isn't true. In fact, if we're going to start making Hitler-Stalin analogies, perhaps the Democrats should be a little more careful. The fact is, both dictators loved unions - as long as they were beholden to the party. Sort of like the Democrats and organized labor in this country don't you think? Can you imagine a union breaking ranks and going Republican? What do you think the reaction of other unions would be to that? Unions in America may be "independent" from government control in the grossest sense, but as we saw when Democrats are in power, the difference between "government" and "party" shrinks to nothing. As long as 97% of union campaign contributions go to Democrats, we have no independent unions in America and the analogy to Hitler and Stalin's union policies are much more apt if you compare them to Democrats rather than Republicans. Don't you just love how much the Democrats lie about the other side and their true intentions.......
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#1. To: CZ82 (#0)
Are you nuts? The first thing Hitler did after assuming power was to dismantle all of the unions. Hitler loved unions like Republicans like working people.
"Am I for or against abstinence?" - Sarah Palin
Hitler abolished unions in 1933 and arrested all of the labor leaders in the country.
INDEPENDENT unions, perhaps. Labor unions, no. Here's an article from a 1935 issue of "Literary Digest" that is interesting. _____________________________________________________________________________________________ I thought this article was about Badeye. :-) Seriously, CZ82 isn't exactly the brightest bulb in the lamp.
Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.
You need to read your own article. It was more similiar to an association than a labor union in that labor and employers were forced to belong to the same org.
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You need to read your own article. It was more similiar to an association than a labor union in that labor and employers were forced to belong to the same org. The tone of the article suggests an all-powerful state where class divisions have disappeared (bosses = workers = kum-ba-yah). Happiness abounds! I stand by my opinion (and it IS just an opinion) that this sounds more like the lib pipe-dream for the USA than a conservative one which promotes individual's rights. It didnt' work out then, did it? And it sure as hell isn't going to work out now.
_____________________________________________________________________________________________ Is that why American industrialists supported Hitler and thought the Nazis had the way out of the Great Depression?
You have the courage to tell the masses what no politician told them: you are inferior and all the improvements in your conditions which you simply take for granted you owe to the efforts of men who are better than you. Ludwig von Mises in a letter to Ayn Rand
Ford probably admired Hitler. So did other notables of the time like Lindburg and Joseph P. Kennedy. While industrialist Armand Hammer preferred (Uncle Joe) Stalin. What's your point? Don't you know that capitalists prefer working with strongmen, dictators, and centralized governments? Makes it easier to "cut deals" and screw the masses, doncha know? Why do you think GE's Jeff Immelt and Microsoft's former CEO Bill Gates are such Obama-zoids and demwit supporters? (I find it laughable that drones such as yourself continue to spew the line that republicans = corporatists and capitalists. That's oh so 19th century) But you are aware that - when all was said and done - that FDR and Hitler ended the Great Depression the same way: Maybe you read about it - it was called World War II.
_____________________________________________________________________________________________ Oh, has that been revised for the 21st century - I didn't get the memo.
You have the courage to tell the masses what no politician told them: you are inferior and all the improvements in your conditions which you simply take for granted you owe to the efforts of men who are better than you. Ludwig von Mises in a letter to Ayn Rand
I didn't get that 'tone' from the article at all. Herding cats would seem a better analogy. And yes it didn't work because it wasn't a union. And trade associations tend to be just that..... associations.
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I'm not surprised. "Mother Jones", "The Nation" and Ed Schultz want to keep you droids in the dark.
_____________________________________________________________________________________________ You say it wasn't a union; the writer of the article and the consensus of the time says it was. You lose. Regardless, the disaster described within the article failed - not because it was or was not a union, but because centrally controlled and centrally planned governments - especially ones run by charismatic egomaniacal leaders - ALWAYS fail. And THAT, dear Rek, is the lesson we need to chew on as we enter into the wonders of the Age of Obama.
_____________________________________________________________________________________________ You lose. Who cares? Mr Lobbyist. But that's one hell of a union that would allow some of the membership to strike against other members. And because the author of the article doesn't understand what an association is doesn't mean it isn't one. The consensus part on your part remains to be proven.
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Hmmmm . . . . sounds kinda like a public employees union.
_____________________________________________________________________________________________ Woman at a dinner party, speaking to Calvin Coolidge - "I bet someone that I could make you say more than 3 words" Looks like you've been busy this morning Amos, is it about time to start beating your head on the wall??? he he he....
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
I love the way there are 2 different version of Historical events. The version that was written when those events were happening and the version that was written years later that backs up what the Liberals say and they really have no clue about. It looks like the latter version of those events is the preferred version of events to be used on a regular basis on this website. "It can't be true If I didn't think of it"!!!! "And even though somebody else told me the truth I won't admit it" What a Liberal is thinking at any given time. Oh by the way you still haven't given me the link to "Libtards are Us", so I can see ahead of time what todays talking point is going to be... That way I can get prepared to be ROTMFFLMAO....
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
Hitler also made it nearly impossible for companies to fire workers. That system still exists in Germany today.
I wasn't aware Walker in his capacity as governor belonged to the same union.
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I wasn't aware Walker in his capacity as governor belonged to the same union. Fun with Dick and Jane. LESSON ONE See Gov. Walker. He works for the taxpayers. See the public union people with their funny funny signs. They work for the taxpayers See the public union people with their funny funny signs. Some of them are also taxpayers. Gov Walker is a taxpayer and he works for the taxpayers. Some public union people are taxpayers and they work for the taxpayers. NEXT WEEK - LESSON TWO _____________________________________________________________________________________________ Woman at a dinner party, speaking to Calvin Coolidge - "I bet someone that I could make you say more than 3 words" I bet his dues are pretty high huh?
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Probably about the same as Andy Stern's or Richard Trumka's
_____________________________________________________________________________________________ Woman at a dinner party, speaking to Calvin Coolidge - "I bet someone that I could make you say more than 3 words" I love getting you lobbyists to strut your stuff. All money in the US originates with, which you are allowed to use as long as you give them their cut, the Federal Reserve which is PRIVATE and probably foreign owned but who knows, and evidently the taxpayers could care less.
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_____________________________________________________________________________________________ Woman at a dinner party, speaking to Calvin Coolidge - "I bet someone that I could make you say more than 3 words" Have you signed up as a talk show caller yet? It probably pays quite well, even if it's sporadic employment. Or maybe you could fake an association with Charley Sheen to get an interview, as for some unfathomable reason he seems quite the media distraction right now especially by your boys at Fox.
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I'm disappointed - I had higher hopes for you. But alas, I see you're simply one of those two-dimensional thinkers I mentioned earlier. It back to the short bus for you - with Lucysmom. Begone!
_____________________________________________________________________________________________ Woman at a dinner party, speaking to Calvin Coolidge - "I bet someone that I could make you say more than 3 words"The fact is, both dictators loved unions
#2. To: CZ82 (#0)
"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899
#3. To: jwpegler, CZ82 (#2)
Hitler abolished unions in 1933 and arrested all of the labor leaders in the country.
"I visited many plants in these districts where violence and terror reigned right up to the time Hitler was elected Chancellor in 1933. Had any of these workers been Communists? I asked. Yes, one of them had. Why had he become converted to National Socialism? Because Hitler had given him everthing Communism had promised: now he could speak to the boss when he liked, and the boss always spoke to him. He was no longer considered the underdog . . . "
If you read the article, 1935 Germany sounds more like the "utopia" the libs envision. (Ooops, did I just compare them to Nazis? My bad . . . )
"If you're 20 and not a liberal, you have no heart. It you're 40 and not a conservative, you have no brain."
~Winston Churchill
#4. To: jwpegler (#2)
#5. To: Ignore Amos (#3)
(Edited)
If you read the article, 1935 Germany sounds more like the "utopia" the libs envision. (Ooops, did I just compare them to Nazis? My bad . . . )
#6. To: Rek (#5)
If you read the article, 1935 Germany sounds more like the "utopia" the libs envision. (Ooops, did I just compare them to Nazis? My bad . . . )
"If you're 20 and not a liberal, you have no heart. It you're 40 and not a conservative, you have no brain."
~Winston Churchill
#7. To: Ignore Amos (#3)
If you read the article, 1935 Germany sounds more like the "utopia" the libs envision. (Ooops, did I just compare them to Nazis? My bad . . . )
#8. To: lucysmom (#7)
Is that why American industrialists supported Hitler
and thought the Nazis had the way out of the Great Depression?
One might argue that Germany fared better economically during the Depression than FDR's USA?
"If you're 20 and not a liberal, you have no heart. It you're 40 and not a conservative, you have no brain."
~Winston Churchill
#9. To: Ignore Amos (#8)
(I find it laughable that drones such as yourself continue to spew the line that republicans = corporatists and capitalists. That's oh so 19th century)
#10. To: Ignore Amos (#6)
The tone of the article suggests an all-powerful state where class divisions have disappeared (bosses = workers = kum-ba-yah). Happiness abounds!
#11. To: lucysmom (#9)
I didn't get the memo.
"If you're 20 and not a liberal, you have no heart. It you're 40 and not a conservative, you have no brain."
~Winston Churchill
#12. To: Rek (#10)
(Edited)
And yes it didn't work because it wasn't a union.
"If you're 20 and not a liberal, you have no heart. It you're 40 and not a conservative, you have no brain."
~Winston Churchill
#13. To: Ignore Amos (#12)
(Edited)
You say it wasn't a union; the writer of the article and the consensus of the time says it was.
#14. To: Rek (#13)
But that's one hell of a union that would allow some of the membership to strike against other members.
"If you're 20 and not a liberal, you have no heart. It you're 40 and not a conservative, you have no brain."
~Winston Churchill
Calvin Coolidge, responding to woman - "You lose"
#15. To: Ignore Amos (#14)
#16. To: Skip Intro (#1)
#17. To: Ignore Amos (#3)
now he could speak to the boss when he liked, and the boss always spoke to him. He was no longer considered the underdog
"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899
#18. To: Ignore Amos (#14)
Hmmmm . . . . sounds kinda like a public employees union.
#19. To: Rek (#18)
Hmmmm . . . . sounds kinda like a public employees union.
Where the hell are the taxpayers?
"If you're 20 and not a liberal, you have no heart. It you're 40 and not a conservative, you have no brain."
~Winston Churchill
Calvin Coolidge, responding to woman - "You lose"
#20. To: Ignore Amos (#19)
#21. To: Rek (#20)
I bet his dues are pretty high huh?
"If you're 20 and not a liberal, you have no heart. It you're 40 and not a conservative, you have no brain."
~Winston Churchill
Calvin Coolidge, responding to woman - "You lose"
#22. To: Ignore Amos (#19)
#23. To: Rek (#22)
I love getting you lobbyists to strut your stuff
"If you're 20 and not a liberal, you have no heart. It you're 40 and not a conservative, you have no brain."
~Winston Churchill
Calvin Coolidge, responding to woman - "You lose"
#24. To: Ignore Amos (#23)
(Edited)
#25. To: Rek (#24)
"If you're 20 and not a liberal, you have no heart. It you're 40 and not a conservative, you have no brain."
~Winston Churchill
Calvin Coolidge, responding to woman - "You lose"
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