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Title: Typical Union weenies
Source: Personal Liberty Digest
URL Source: http://www.personalliberty.com/news ... PLA_[P11449121]&rrid=306967465
Published: Mar 4, 2011
Author: Personal Liberty News Desk
Post Date: 2011-03-04 10:20:18 by CZ82
Keywords: None
Views: 11180
Comments: 22

State Workers Don’t Want To Play By Same Rules As Federal Employees March 4, 2011 by Personal Liberty News Desk Liberals across the United States are up in arms about several State proposals that would limit collective bargaining rights for public worker unions. Legislation has been filed, and protested, in Ohio, Tennessee, Idaho, Iowa, Kansas and Indiana.

However, FOX News reported that the public outcry against these bills might be much ado about nothing. The Republican model being considered by many State legislatures is quite similar to the set of limitations placed on Federal employees. The Civil Service Reform Act (CSRA) of 1978, which was passed by Democratic President Jimmy Carter, limited the collective bargaining rights of Federal workers.

No President or legislature has since overturned the CSRA because, according to a USA Today report, Federal employees are doing just fine. The news provider estimated that Federal workers out-earn their private-sector counterparts in the same jobs by an average of $7,000 per year. In regards to benefits, Federal employees, on average, earned approximately $30,000 more than their private-sector peers.

In addition, some GOP lawmakers are calling for the end of "closed shops," which require State employees to join a union. According to FOX News, the elimination of this system has alarmed many liberal politicians because a percentage of union dues, which are mandatory contributions from employees, fund Democratic election campaigns.

For example, the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reported that the 14 Democratic State Senators who have fled Wisconsin to protest Governor Scott Walker's budget have benefited from union dues in the past. Approximately 20 percent of all campaign funds raised by these lawmakers during the last two election cycles came from public employees, according to the news source.

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#2. To: CZ82 (#0)

Welcome to LF.

Here, you'll need this: when you deal with the local resident partisan hacks.

Ignore Amos  posted on  2011-03-04   10:51:28 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Ignore Amos (#2)

Welcome to LF.

Here, you'll need this: when you deal with the local resident partisan hacks

Thanx Amos I'll keep your wall in mind but I don't think I'll need it. I've dealt with many of them over the years and all you need to do is keep telling the truth and eventually they will either realize they were stupid, or they just have a massive coronary because they can't handle the truth.....

You know what they say about learning; "If you're not learning something new everyday that you can use to improve yourself then it's your own fault. God didn't let you be born stupid, you just like being stupid"!!!!!

CZ82  posted on  2011-03-04   14:55:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: CZ82 (#8)

I've dealt with many of them over the years and all you need to do is keep telling the truth and eventually they will either realize they were stupid, or they just have a massive coronary because they can't handle the truth.....

I used to think that, too. Now I'm not so sure.

I think the thing that is frustrating is so many are so two-dimensional, "everything D is good and everything R is bad" types.

To me, it's interesting to engage someone who is multi-faceted. For an example, I am a pretty right-wing conservative - but I don't typically support these military excursions that a lot of my fellow conservatives support (Iraq, Afghanistan, etc.)

So to me, it would be interesting to go beyond the "Bush did it/Obama did it" paradigm and engage others in intelligent discussions.

Hell, I don't like much of anything Obama has done - but at least I'm honest enough to give HIM credit for (so far, at least) doing the right thing vis-a-vis Libya and staying the hell out.

Being a conservative, I don't know of any Democrats on the national scene I could ever support (is Zell Miller still around?). So I'm accused of being partisan.

But there's damn few Republicans I could support either.

Anyway, there are a few posters here on LF that are intelligent, multi-faceted types. (at the risk of leaving someone out, I won't mention any names. Once you've been here awhile, it will become apparent who they are.)

The two-dimensional partisans will become obvious, too.

Again, welcome.

Ignore Amos  posted on  2011-03-04   15:39:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Ignore Amos (#11)

I think the thing that is frustrating is so many are so two-dimensional, "everything D is good and everything R is bad" types.

Embrace European style Christian democracy - it is a good blend of what is best in both left and right.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-03-04   15:42:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Godwinson (#12)

Embrace European style Christian democracy

I've heard of European political parties called "Christian Democrats" (there's one in Germany, I believe)

Other than having "Christian" in their name (which of course would never fly here in the US) - how are they different from American Democrats or Liberals?

And is it Rev. Wright style Christianity?

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#15. To: Ignore Amos (#14) (Edited)

You mean you can't google this up yourself?

From Time magazine 1953 edition

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,890558,00.html

EUROPE'S CHRISTIAN DEMOCRATS

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