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Title: Goldbricker Commie Wisconsin Dem Senators to be Frog Marched Back to Madison
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URL Source: http://newsofthenorth.net/article/T ... d_with_or_without_force/122556
Published: Mar 3, 2011
Author: newsofthenorth
Post Date: 2011-03-03 15:38:01 by no gnu taxes
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Views: 7730
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The 14 missing Senate Democrats have until 4 p.m. today to return to the Capitol or face apprehension tantamount to arrest “with or without force." But at least one of those Democrats -- Sen. Jim Holperin, who represents the 12th Senate District that includes Vilas and Oneida counties, said they would not return until a compromise could be reached. (see his comments, as made to NN.N) below. GOP Majority Leader Scott Fitzgerald (R-Juneau) earlier today ordered the apprehension of the senators who fled the state two weeks ago to Illinois to avoid a vote on Gov. Scott Walker's budget repair bill. Republicans voted 19-0 to give the Democrats until 4 p.m. Thursday to appear before the Senate. "They have pushed us to the edge of a constitutional crisis," Fitzgerald said. "We simply cannot have democracy be held hostage because the minority wants to prove a point." The Senate also voted for a "call of the house," which is the mechanism used to compel senators to return to the chamber. That means the Senate sergeant at arms Ted Blazel can "with or without force" and with or without the help of any law enforcement officers in the state to take them into custody and bring them to the state Capitol. Blazel will be ordered to "take any and all necessary steps, with or without force, and with or without the assistance of law enforcement officers, by warrant or other legal process, as he may deem necessary in order to bring that senator to the Senate chambers so that the Senate may convene with a quorum of no less than 20 senators," according to the resolution that was adopted. At least 20 senators must be present to pass the bill, but Republicans hold just 19 seats. Sen. Jim Holperin (D-Eagle River), reached for comment by NN.N for this article, said that the Democrats remain in Illinois and won't come back to Madison until a "compromise' on Gov. Walker's budget bill can be reached. Holperin told NN.N by telephone from Illinois, "This is another in a long line of attempts by Senate Republicans to entice us to return to the Capitol. I can understand why they've taken this step. This is a vote they badly wanted to make and get over with. But we remain firm until a compromise can be reached. I firmly believe there is a middle ground that we can reach a compromise that will not eliminate workers' rights that will allow the governor to balance budget with the concessions offered but would not prohibit the right of workers to bargain collectively. So long as there is a whisper of a hope that can happen, we need to remain out and pursue that possibility." Asked about the chances of a compromise, Holperin said, "I'm not in those talks because I am not in a leadership position. As long as the two sides are talking, I need to hold out hope for a compromise. I think the media needs to ask the governor why he remains so stubbornly insistence on eliminating workers' rights. Every governor before him going back as far as I remember -- I'm 60 years old -- said that these are the rights I'm going to respect and people should have in Wisconsin. To completely eliminate them, no governor has been so stubborn and bullheaded and said, 'nope, I'm simply not going to negotiate on this one.' Asked what type of hardships, financial or otherwise, the 16 days away from the Capitol has had on him and fellow Democratic senators, Holperin responded: "Well, certainly it's a fiscal inconvenience for many of us to be down here. For me personally it's going to cost me around $1,500 as of today. But we've got to remember that workers' rights in Wisconsin were fought for and won over decades by people who made more sacrifices than we did. People in the 1920's and 1930's fought and died in labor disputes for the right of workers to organize and bargain collectively." How long can the Democrats hold out? "We know we can’t stay out forever. We know we have to return to the Capitol at some point. Elections matter. We’re in the minority, we're gonna lose, and don’t have the votes, but we still believe there is an opportunity for some middle ground," Holperin responded. Holperin said the fact that unions generally support Democrats and big business supports Republicans is a "secondary issue and cuts both ways/" He said Gov. Walker "doesn't care about workers' rights. All he cares about is busting the unions so he can get more money from his rich benefactors so that his agenda can be advanced. Asked when the Democrats might be returning to Madison, he said he had "no idea."
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#1. To: no gnu taxes (#0)
Wisconsin Republicans could care less about democracy (don't we live in a Republic) they just want Democrat bodies to provide the "look" of legitimacy so they can do their dirty deeds.
You have the courage to tell the masses what no politician told them: you are inferior and all the improvements in your conditions which you simply take for granted you owe to the efforts of men who are better than you. Ludwig von Mises in a letter to Ayn Rand
I suppose you support the freeloading Dems partying it up in Chicago on the WI taxpayers backs. PAAAAR-TAY!
Now, I know I’m not going to change the minds of any of the True Believers…those who read all of Reverend Al’s sermons, and say things like, “You know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, …”. Can I get an ‘amen’??
It's what Abe Lincoln would do. "Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
Absolutely! and you're wrong. The Dems are not partying it up on the taxpayer's dime, Walker is holding their paychecks hostage.
You have the courage to tell the masses what no politician told them: you are inferior and all the improvements in your conditions which you simply take for granted you owe to the efforts of men who are better than you. Ludwig von Mises in a letter to Ayn Rand
Don't be so narrow-minded... she supports ALL freeloaders!
Socialist ass-hats think "There will be no more money when the U.S. dollar has no value, until that time we can keep printing more." And yes, that IS from LF's answer to Ben Bernanke, go65, leading disfunctional and delusional socialist of the forum. "You want me to kill THE ENEMIES of Jappos, I'll kill THE ENEMIES of Jappos, Rebs, or Sioux, or Cheyenne... For 500 bucks a month I'll kill whoever you want. But keep one thing in mind: I'd happily kill you for free." Algren, "The Last Samurai" Governor worm is starting to squirm.
Am I the "she" you didn't ping, choosing instead to talk behind my back?
You have the courage to tell the masses what no politician told them: you are inferior and all the improvements in your conditions which you simply take for granted you owe to the efforts of men who are better than you. Ludwig von Mises in a letter to Ayn Rand
Be honest mama. There is nothing illegitimate about the peoples representatives voting on legislation. The democrats have a record of shutting down government. They did it under Clintoon. And now these parasites are doing it again.
I'd like to give a great big welcome to CZ82.
But why did CZ eat two instead of three, that's what I want to know.
Have the Dems ever done anything that you thought was bad for the country, or does that all come from Republicans? Just trying to figure out your viewpoint. I'm just curious, not trying to start an argument.
Frog Marched? Like Cheney to the bunker. LMFAO Do it. And shut down the gov't while you're at it. Then: Invade Jersey City and lower Manhattan and shut down Goldman Sachs and JP Morgan!
It up to the people the Democrats represent to decide. The democrats have a record of shutting down government. They did it under Clintoon. And now these parasites are doing it again. Who shut down the federal government? Armey replied gruffly that if I didn't give in to them, they would shut the government down and my presidency would be over. I shot back, saying I would never allow their budget to become law, "even if I drop to 5 percent in the polls. If you want your budget, you'll have to get someone else to sit in this chair!" Not surprisingly, we didn't make a deal. Odd, isn't it that the GOP was willing to shut down government under Clinton in the interest of cost cutting and raised the debt limit with little more than a peep over and over again under Bush?
You have the courage to tell the masses what no politician told them: you are inferior and all the improvements in your conditions which you simply take for granted you owe to the efforts of men who are better than you. Ludwig von Mises in a letter to Ayn Rand
Your statement about raising the debt limit under Bush is a good point. It just goes to show you that there are way too many Moderate Republicans in office at the present time. (And for those of you who don't know what a "moderate" is just think Democrat, just not quite as bad.... but still just as stupid)...... It won't be long and thay will be swept down the gutter along with most if not all of the Democrats.... The (decent) people of America are waking up to their bullshit and have decided they don't like it. I think Nov 2010 will attest to that.... I know what you are going to say but don't bother I will. There really not that many good Republican candidates out there at this time (Baby Democrats). It will be a long and hard ongoing process to find "Real Republican" candidates that will do what is right for this country, put it back on the right track........ And if there are some of you out there that doesn't want what is good for this country then I suggest you move to Europe and live with your Socialist buddies (take a box of Kleenex with you because they don't have any there....something to do with it being a luxury item).... thats if they will let you go mooch off of them like you have here.
" America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." Quote from a book written in 1996. Since its now 2011 I wonder if now is the time to start shooting the bastards???
No, what it shows is that fiscal responsibility is not a Republican value, its a political ploy. ...take a box of Kleenex with you because they don't have any there....something to do with it being a luxury item... From Wikipedia: Today each person in Western Europe uses about 200 tissue handkerchiefs a year, with a variety of 'alternative' functions including the treatment of minor wounds, the cleaning of face and hands and the cleaning of spectacles.[2]
You have the courage to tell the masses what no politician told them: you are inferior and all the improvements in your conditions which you simply take for granted you owe to the efforts of men who are better than you. Ludwig von Mises in a letter to Ayn Rand
Today each person in Western Europe uses about 200 tissue handkerchiefs a year, with a variety of 'alternative' functions including the treatment of minor wounds, the cleaning of face and hands and the cleaning of spectacles.[2] But what about the ones in Eastern Europe????? Or maybe even North Africa???
" America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." Quote from a book written in 1996. Since its now 2011 I wonder if now is the time to start shooting the bastards??? "I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
Not a clue about Eastern Europe, however facial tissue was used in Egypt when I was there, but that was before the free market reforms imposed on Egypt by the IMF so I can't speak to the status of Kleenex in the present.
You have the courage to tell the masses what no politician told them: you are inferior and all the improvements in your conditions which you simply take for granted you owe to the efforts of men who are better than you. Ludwig von Mises in a letter to Ayn Rand
"They have pushed us to the edge of a constitutional crisis," Fitzgerald said. "We simply cannot have democracy be held hostage because the minority wants to prove a point."
#2. To: lucysmom (#1)
#3. To: no gnu taxes, lucysmom (#2)
I suppose you support the freeloading Dems partying it up in Chicago on the WI taxpayers backs.
#4. To: no gnu taxes (#2)
I suppose you support the freeloading Dems partying it up in Chicago on the WI taxpayers backs.
#5. To: no gnu taxes (#2)
#6. To: no gnu taxes (#0)
#7. To: Capitalist Eric (#5)
she supports ALL freeloaders!
#8. To: lucysmom (#1)
Wisconsin Republicans could care less about democracy (don't we live in a Republic) they just want Democrat bodies to provide the "look" of legitimacy so they can do their dirty deeds.
#9. To: CZ82 (#0)
#10. To: A K A Stone (#9)
"CZ ate two"
#11. To: lucysmom (#1)
Wisconsin Republicans could care less about democracy (don't we live in a Republic) they just want Democrat bodies to provide the "look" of legitimacy so they can do their dirty deeds.
#12. To: no gnu taxes (#0)
#13. To: A K A Stone (#8)
Be honest mama. There is nothing illegitimate about the peoples representatives voting on legislation.
#14. To: lucysmom (#13)
Odd, isn't it that the GOP was willing to shut down government under Clinton in the interest of cost cutting and raised the debt limit with little more than a peep over and over again under Bush?
#15. To: CZ82 (#14)
Your statement about raising the debt limit under Bush is a good point. It just goes to show you that there are way too many Moderate Republicans in office at the present time.
#16. To: lucysmom (#15)
From Wikipedia:
#17. To: CZ82 (#16)
But what about the ones in Eastern Europe????? Or maybe even North Africa???
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