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Title: Wisconsin Judge Orders Capitol Open To Public
Source: REUTERS
URL Source: http://www.reuters.com/article/2011 ... building-idUSTRE7205AR20110301
Published: Mar 1, 2011
Author: REUTERS
Post Date: 2011-03-01 13:26:00 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 17480
Comments: 28

(Reuters) - A Dane County circuit court judge ordered Wisconsin authorities on Tuesday to open the Capitol Building in Madison to public access during business hours.

It was not immediately clear whether the temporary restraining order granted by Judge Daniel Moeser would result in a change in the way people have been granted access to the building over the past two days.

Protesters have held demonstrations for two weeks at the Capitol building against Republican Governor Scott Walker's proposal to curb the powers of public sector unions and access was tightened on Monday and Tuesday.

A representative of the Walker administration was not immediately available to comment.

Moeser's order was granted without a hearing and specified that it would stand in effect until the trial court is able to schedule a hearing on the matter.

Representative Peter Barca, the minority leader of Democrats in the Wisconsin Assembly, said a hearing was expected within a couple of hours, but authorities needed to open access to the building in an "orderly process."

"I do think they need to do this immediately," Barca said.

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#1. To: Brian S (#0)

A representative of the Walker administration was not immediately available to comment.

Can a chief executive who is an R simply ignore a judge's order?

Or is that only permissible if the chief executive is a D?

Inquiring minds want to know . . .

"If you're 20 and not a liberal, you have no heart. It you're 40 and not a conservative, you have no brain."
~Winston Churchill

Ignore Amos  posted on  2011-03-01   13:44:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Ignore Amos (#1)

Can a chief executive who is an R simply ignore a judge's order?

Or is that only permissible if the chief executive is a D?

Inquiring minds want to know . . .

Why would you want Walker to ignore the court ruling? What kind of tyrannical shit is this that the people's property be closed off to the people?

"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-03-01   14:34:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Godwinson, Ignore Amos (#2)

What kind of tyrannical shit is this that the people's property be closed off to the people?

denying access is in direct violation of the state constitution.

You have the courage to tell the masses what no politician told them: you are inferior and all the improvements in your conditions which you simply take for granted you owe to the efforts of men who are better than you. Ludwig von Mises in a letter to Ayn Rand

lucysmom  posted on  2011-03-01   15:11:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Godwinson (#2)

What kind of tyrannical shit is this that the people's property be closed off to the people?

Makes it easier to find corporate sponsorship.

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Rek  posted on  2011-03-01   15:17:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Rek (#4)

They GOP running dogs are scared. The GOP tried to fight back and orchestrated Tea Party counter demonstrations were weak and barely registered - resembled the fake counter protest demonstrations Mubark rolled out in Egypt.

"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-03-01   15:20:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Godwinson (#2) (Edited)

Why would you want Walker to ignore the court ruling?

The Chief Executive of the land has ignored a judge's ruling (vis-a-vis Obamacare)

Since chief executives defying court rulings seem to be the order of the day, my question was designed to elicit an answer as to whether the same could be applied here.

The only difference I could see that might cause the answer to be no was the fact that the US Chief Excecutive is a D, while the Wisconsin Chief Executive is an R.

Is that the reason the situation should be looked at differently?

(For the record, I believe Governors and Presidents SHOULD abide by judicial rulings. Regardless of their party affiliation.)

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"If you're 20 and not a liberal, you have no heart. It you're 40 and not a conservative, you have no brain."
~Winston Churchill

Ignore Amos  posted on  2011-03-01   15:23:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Ignore Amos (#6)

That's kind of kooky reasoning. Where did you hear that the so called "Obamacare" law (Actually Dole-care since the Republican Bob Dole came up with it) was unconstitutional? The matter is still before the court and is the law of the land till the Supreme Court rules otherwise.

"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-03-01   15:27:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Godwinson (#5)

running dogs

At the risk of being called a republican, may I point out that the only runs "running" were the dims?

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"If you're 20 and not a liberal, you have no heart. It you're 40 and not a conservative, you have no brain."
~Winston Churchill

Ignore Amos  posted on  2011-03-01   15:28:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Godwinson (#5)

The GOP tried to fight back and orchestrated Tea Party counter demonstrations were weak and barely registered

It was cold and snowing.

You have the courage to tell the masses what no politician told them: you are inferior and all the improvements in your conditions which you simply take for granted you owe to the efforts of men who are better than you. Ludwig von Mises in a letter to Ayn Rand

lucysmom  posted on  2011-03-01   15:30:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Godwinson (#7) (Edited)

The matter is still before the court and is the law of the land till the Supreme Court rules otherwise.

Nope.

The ruling IS the law of the land (IF and UNTIL the SCOTUS hears it and IF the SCOTUS overturns it.)

Look it up

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"If you're 20 and not a liberal, you have no heart. It you're 40 and not a conservative, you have no brain."
~Winston Churchill

Ignore Amos  posted on  2011-03-01   15:31:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Ignore Amos (#8)

At the risk of being called a republican, may I point out that the only runs "running" were the dims?

Not being present for a quorum is part of centuries old parliamentarian procedures. For example, Abe Lincoln jumped out a window to prevent a quorum. It is a filibuster in physical form. It's exists in a republic to empower the minority party against the tyranny of the majority. So called original intent constitutionalists should know this.

"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-03-01   15:33:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Ignore Amos (#10)

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/affordable-care-act-ruled-constitutional/

Affordable Care Act Ruled Constitutional

ALEX KNAPP · WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 23, 2011

Judge Gladys Kessler of the D.C. Circuit Court has ruled that the Affordable Care Act does not violate the Constitution. The full opinion is here,

For the record, most of the Constitional challenges have been thrown out of Court.

Where there’s been a substantial ruling, three judges have found the ACA Constitutional, two have found it unconstitutional.

"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-03-01   15:38:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Godwinson (#5)

They GOP running dogs are scared.

hmmm, i do believe that's it the fleebaggers who ran from the fight, they'll be returning to wisconsin shortly with their tails tucked between their large fat asses.

calcon  posted on  2011-03-01   15:48:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Godwinson (#2)

they only wanted them to leave so they could clean the place of the disgusting smell your unwashed buddies brought to the capitol, but as we all know soap is like kyptonite to you leftist.

leave your mom's basement and try sleeping on the floor of your state capitol then let us know how that works out for you

calcon  posted on  2011-03-01   15:50:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Godwinson (#11)

justify their cowardice union hack

calcon  posted on  2011-03-01   15:51:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: lucysmom (#3)

denying access is in direct violation of the state constitution.

OOPS totally wrong once again

Here's the capitol's hours of operations, looks like they've been defying the state Constitution for years

"The best way to experience the beauty and grandeur of Wisconsin's Capitol building (located at 2 East Main Street, Madison, WI 53702) is to see it for yourself. It is open to the public weekdays from 8:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. and weekends and holidays from 8:00 a.m. to 4:00 p.m. Free tours are offered daily, year round except on the following holidays: New Year's Day, Easter, Thanksgiving, Christmas Eve and Christmas. Tours start at the information desk Monday through Saturday at 9:00, 10:00, 11:00 a.m. and 1:00, 2:00, 3:00 p.m.; and Sundays at 1:00, 2:00, 3:00 p.m. A 4:00 p.m. tour is offered weekdays (Monday - Friday), excluding holidays, during Memorial Day through Labor Day. Plan on spending 45-55 minutes for a tour. The sixth floor museum and observation deck are open during the summer months. Groups of ten or more can make an on-line reservation for a tour of the State Capitol or call" (608)266-0382.

calcon  posted on  2011-03-01   15:57:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: calcon (#15)

Your squealing tells me the Union demonstrators are winning.

"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-03-01   16:07:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: calcon (#13) (Edited)

justify their cowardice union hack

All the justification I need is in this photo to support them:

"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-03-01   16:12:57 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: calcon (#15)

justify their cowardice union hack

All the justification I need is in this photo to support them:

( Rick Wood, Milwaukee Journal Sentinel / February 21, 2011 ) Bagpipe-playing firefighters, whose union would not be affected, join the protest in Madison, Wisc., agains the governor's plan to elminate collective-bargaining rights for most public-employee unions.

"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-03-01   16:21:51 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: calcon (#14)

they only wanted them to leave so they could clean the place of the disgusting smell your unwashed buddies brought to the capitol, but as we all know soap is like kyptonite to you leftist.

The deranged right wing insults America's Finest:

"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-03-01   16:28:18 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Godwinson (#19)

of course all the folks in a gay pride parade are union supporters

calcon  posted on  2011-03-01   18:02:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Godwinson (#20)

he deranged right wing insults America's Finest:

hardly, just a union assclown with a hat,

I didn't know the village people were recruiting for a fireman character.

calcon  posted on  2011-03-01   18:04:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Godwinson (#17)

Your squealing tells me the Union demonstrators are winning.

my squealing, you continued posts of firemen shows just how desperate you are, you think they will delay the smashing defeat walker will whip on you.

the only mistake he made was exempting these douches from the bill.

calcon  posted on  2011-03-01   18:07:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: calcon (#16)

OOPS totally wrong once again

Hey dude, not so fast.

According to the Wisconsin AFL-CIO, a state judge has issued a temporary restraining order that would open the Capitol building in Madison. It has been effectively closed since 8 am yesterday, with protesters unable to get inside and even attendees of a pubic hearing having to be escorted into the building. The Capitol police added metal detectors, police dogs and pat-downs for all entrants, and even refused access to the building for state representatives who didn’t show Capitol ID. Here’s some video from inside the building as it was under lockdown.

The AFL-CIO, ACLU and others argued that the blocking of access violated the Wisconsin state constitution. It appears they have succeeded.

news.firedoglake.com/2011...ing-back-open-in-madison/

You have the courage to tell the masses what no politician told them: you are inferior and all the improvements in your conditions which you simply take for granted you owe to the efforts of men who are better than you. Ludwig von Mises in a letter to Ayn Rand

lucysmom  posted on  2011-03-01   19:59:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: calcon (#22)

So firefighters and cops are now the Village People? and you say you don't insult them? That's the deranged conservatives for you.

"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-03-02   9:24:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: calcon (#23)

my squealing, you continued posts of firemen shows just how desperate you are, you think they will delay the smashing defeat walker will whip on you.

the only mistake he made was exempting these douches from the bill.

Firefighters are douches to you conservatives? The more people read statements like yours the better.

"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-03-02   9:27:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: lucysmom (#24)

Hey dude, not so fast.

so the facts as posted from the wisconsin government website mean nothing right

calcon  posted on  2011-03-02   12:01:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: calcon (#27)

so the facts as posted from the wisconsin government website mean nothing right

Go back and read what's at the link I provided.

Walker's orders have nothing to do with business hours.

You have the courage to tell the masses what no politician told them: you are inferior and all the improvements in your conditions which you simply take for granted you owe to the efforts of men who are better than you. Ludwig von Mises in a letter to Ayn Rand

lucysmom  posted on  2011-03-02   12:15:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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