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Title: Matthew Chapter 24
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Published: Mar 1, 2011
Author: God
Post Date: 2011-03-01 07:35:56 by A K A Stone
Keywords: end times, last days, jesus
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1 And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to him for to shew him the buildings of the temple. 2 And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down. 3 And as he sat upon the Mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world? 4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. 5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many. 6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. 7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places. 8 All these are the beginning of sorrows. 9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake. 10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another. 11 11And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. 12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold. 13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. 14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come. 15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) 16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains: 17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house: 18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes. 19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days! 20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day: 21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. 22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened. 23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. 24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. 25 Behold, I have told you before. 26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not. Note 27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together. 29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. 32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh: 33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors. 34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled. 35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. 36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. 37 But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, 39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. 41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left. 42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come. 43 But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up. 44 Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh. 45 Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season? 46 Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing. 47 Verily I say unto you, That he shall make him ruler over all his goods. 48 But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming; 49 And shall begin to smite his fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken; 50 The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of, 51 And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
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#1. To: A K A Stone (#0)
Many think that Christ was/is a purely one-dimensional being - someone who went around healing and preaching "peace" and "love." This certainly reveals a different side of Him, doesn't it? Of all the prophecies contained therein - ones that seem to describe our present age to a "T" - the one I most take to heart is contained in verse 24. The single word that best describes the time we live in is "deception." My prayer is that I do not find myself deceived.
"If you're 20 and not a liberal, you have no heart. It you're 40 and not a conservative, you have no brain." Protestants.....especially the American ones......
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
Deception takes many forms. I don't know what your issue is with American protestants, but keep in mind that some of Christ's harshest words were directed toward the establishment religion (and its adherants) of His day. Unfortunately, hypocrites are found in all relgions - American protestantism included. If one is to truly go to the next step, he/she must let Christ reform their heart. It begins inwardly, then works outward. Only then can one be considered His child.
"If you're 20 and not a liberal, you have no heart. It you're 40 and not a conservative, you have no brain." They are the ones pushing end time scenarios and in many cases using those fabricated end times scenarios to lobby politicians.
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
I have a slightly slanted view of God's child that I would like to share. I believe that we are all God's children, but some of his children deny and reject him. God's love is a free gift for anyone and everyone. It is our choice to acknowledge him as Father, but he is Father to all, nevertheless. If we obey and seek, he will give us abundant life and fill us with his light as his chosen and favored children. If we deny him, we live as his child in darkness. That is our choice- God never forces himself in. It is torment to deny the love of a parent who has done nothing at all wrong, and has only wanted the best for us. And so those who feel that love and reject it,are tormented souls. I don't want that torment.
Your lucky we stopped burning heretics........
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
Your secular liberal Democrats do the same with commie end times scenarios such as global warming, overpopulation, radical environmentalism etc. You believe the devil's counterfeit of the truth.
Well, [war's] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over.
They are the ones pushing end time scenarios and in many cases using those fabricated end times scenarios to lobby politicians. That is a fair criticism. Sadly, in many ways we've become a cartoon (the rabid "radical right") - nothing more than a special interest group to be assuaged by corrupt politicans. While we are called to be "salt" and "light" to the world, we should keep everything in perspective and be careful to remember that ultimately Christ's Kingdom is "not of this world."
"If you're 20 and not a liberal, you have no heart. It you're 40 and not a conservative, you have no brain." Communists are industrialists. They are not environmentalists. The environmentalist movement was part of the luddite conservative movement - If you read Lord Of the Rings, the evil ones are industrialists who turn their back on the old ways of the shire and living in harmony with trees, etc. But, I have always assumed the word "commie" lost all meaning to the degenerate American right wing and is now just a slang word to identify an enemy like calling them "gooks". With that said, You have the end time kooks preaching made up fantasies (in direct defiance of the Bible's claim you can't predict the events) and the other side is based on observational science and analysis and interpretation of data. I will go with the scientists over some lunatic from the Bible Belt.
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
Well all I can tell you is that each day God has shown his grace to me in ways that can only be describe as miracles, and that favor does not seem to have an end in sight. So reject that testimony if you must, but, I wouldn't want to be you when the end times come. That's all I can offer. Best Wishes.
That is the central "if" Those five words sum up what should be our life's goal
"If you're 20 and not a liberal, you have no heart. It you're 40 and not a conservative, you have no brain." I remember reading a posting on one of those end time web pages by a woman. In it she discussed an upcoming nuclear treaty with Russia and she wrote that since she knew for certain that Russia was part of the anti-christ's forces (the whole gog-magog lunacy) that Americans should be hostile to any peace offerings from Russia because they are destined to be the bad guy anyway so why bother. Imagine basing diplomatic relations on this basis? Hal Lindsey stated that the EU was the empire of the anti-Christ. If Hal Lindsey's view held sway imagine the damage done if we had a president who viewed western Europe as the land of the anti- christ? And that notion came out in the 70s I think so at the height of the Cold War. Insanity.
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
The purpose of the Bible is for the individual reader to take it upon themselves to take Jesus's teachings to their own heart and put them to actual practice in their own life. Not the do as I say stuff of many of it's most popular rock star like teachers. Christians as a whole have strayed from that and appear to be suffering the consequences. And for this statement Christians that can quote the Bible from end to end will stone me.
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Yes. Exactly. :) I agree. And truthfully, doing anything other, in my life is cold and empty. Sure I have had times in my life when I was not seeking, and I was not listening, and God removed his favor from me. I have been in a place for some years now, back in the fold with my Father - that I can't imagine why anyone chooses NOT to seek him. I seek him in everything, and that has made all the difference in my life. I will never go back to that dark place.
God would not reveal himself to heretics who make up their own biblical dogmas.
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
Well, I am not sure how you are going to rectify what you believe with what I am telling you- but God is never apart from me. He shows himself 24/7/365 I am his beloved child and a part of his royal plan. God had never forsaken me, and I have received everything I have prayed for and more. I am never alone. People who I pray for are uplifted and all of my family have been favored. And that has been going on for me, save a few years when I was being stubborn, since I accepted Christ at the age of 5. My life has been full or things that could kill people and make them sick- and I have escaped with a joyful heart and a rich life. I also have spiritual mentors, people I serve with on various ministries, a pastor, friends and plenty of authors of books, who are all in alignment with my concept of God. So.. yeah.. You may wish you examine why you think my testimony is untrue.
Because after all you say happened to you, you still have an enormous ego?
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Well technically it is called self esteem. :) My ego is perfectly balanced, thank you. And yes, I do have healthy self esteem. People seem to notice that, and those who have weak self esteem are very frightened when they see health and strength in someone else. I believe that is the care here. Why would I not have healthy self esteem? Why should I not? I will gladly help anyone find what I have found. I worked hard to get here, thru all sorts of horrible abuses, and depression and even being suicidal. Now- I am cherished and loved and cared for every moment of the day. THAT will give anyone a healthy self esteem! Now I am healthy in mind spirit, mind and body and have the most amazing life- with friends, family and more goods and comfort than I can use. WHO would not leap for joy? Who would not share that good news? :)
I really don't remember self esteem being mentioned in the Bible, but I remember lots of mention of humility and humbleness. Stuff like that.
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Well then, thank you for admitting that you do not know or understand the Bible. That goes along way. If you seek understanding about healthy self esteem and positive self image, you will find everything you need to know about it, in the Bible. :) Indeed it is in there. Keep looking. You can start with these three pages: http://www.joycemeyer.org/NR/rdonlyres/46AA1300-F37A-41C5-963A- CB5FEAA07218/0/whoiam.pdf%22 **I have the Greater One living in me; greater is He Who is in me than he who is in the world (I John 4:4). **I am far from oppression, and fear does not come near me (Isaiah 54:14). **I am a doer of the Word and blessed in my actions (James 1:22,25). It is wonderful reading. Enjoy!
I don't believe having an opinion on end-time events is a definition of insanity. After all, the world (at least as we perceive it) IS going to come to an end at some point. Whether you believe it will end in 5 days. Or 5 months. Or 5 million (or Billion) years. It becomes problematic when you take it to the next step and proclaim you KNOW when and how it's going to end. Because when you do that, you're doing something that even the Lord Himself was reluctant to do ("I know not the day nor the hour, only the Father . . . ") There was something called "dominion theology" a while back - I think its influence has faded. Pat Robertson was an adherant. I'm not an expert, but I think DT said that we could "usher in" God's Kingdom by influencing events and political instuttions of this world. Without commenting on Robertson specifically, I will say I disagree with DT. When all is said and done, I will endeavor to follow Christ and His example. (not mortals like Robertson).
"If you're 20 and not a liberal, you have no heart. It you're 40 and not a conservative, you have no brain." A quote of Jesus's mentioning self esteem in the Bible would have been sufficient. His disciples to the end seemed to have very little in the way of positive self esteem, as most seemed to be fighting self doubt yet they are held up as examples we should try to emulate.
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Self self esteem is a sin same as self pride. Pride comes before the fall.
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
What I was calling insane was people using whatever pet theory you have about the end times as a basis for creating foreign policies.
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
It is my understanding and beliefs that Scripture talks about two different events: the Rapture of the Church and the Second Coming of Christ. I believe that Chapter 24 refers to the end days after the Rapture of the Church. This chapter talks about those in Judea fleeing to the mountains, for instance. After the Rapture of the Church, God will turn his attention to the salvation of Israel, which He has turned away from during the time of the the Church. After the Rapture, the Church will be with God and will not face the Great Tribulation.
Just a question, and then a comment: Do you see the USA mentioned anywhere in Scripture? Even obliquely? As to the Rapture of the Church - I've heard it said that that belief came about rather recently (in millennial terms). In about 1830 or there abouts.
"If you're 20 and not a liberal, you have no heart. It you're 40 and not a conservative, you have no brain." The USA isn't mentioned at all in Scripture. The verses that talk about the Rapture have been there for the last two thousand years. Look over this material and see what you think. http://rr-bb.com/showthread.php?70788-The-Rapture-of-the-Church There is also an interesting thread about Matthew 24 on this site. http://rr-bb.com/showthread.php?138146-Matthew-24-The-discourse-continues- *Merged*
I believe that the USA is in Biblical Prophecy.
Oh ye of little faith. Self esteem isn't pride. You have so much to learn about God and God's love. I hope you figure it all out before you expire, because that will be the best thing that could possibly happen for you.
The "rapture", as described in the 'Left Behind' books, was not part of Christian theology until the mid 1800s. It is a heretical.
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
Learn English. http://www.thefreedictionary.com/self-esteem self-es·teem (slf-stm) n. Pride in oneself; self-respect. Self-esteem n 1. respect for or a favourable opinion of oneself 2. an unduly high opinion of oneself; vanity Vanity of vanities, all is vanity. Ecclesiastes 1:2
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
You are kidding, right? LOL- God is bigger than Webster. God has not given me any indication at all that he wants me to submit or humble myself to you, to Webster-or anyone else here. When he tells me to follow something or someone- I KNOW about it! Trust me. I have learned to obey God. I gratefully worship a loving, benevolent God of grace and mercy. He loves me, and is happy that I shine so bright for Him. He loves me so much that he saved me more than once. He has blessed me with the fruits of the spirit and fellowship with other people who shine for him, and more riches than I need- (so I give them away- he gives me more). He has given me a spiritual gift that gets stronger and stronger, the more I walk in faith of Him. I have never been forsaken by God, so I think I am doing pretty well. I don't answer to you or to your dictionary. lol. I am not afraid of your mockery. God is not a god of fear. I have no fear of anything, other than having reverence for his perfect greatness- thus, I have a very strong self esteem- just as it was planned for me to have. He loves it when his children are walking in his light. :) Anyone can walk this way with me- if they so choose. :)
Then you are not a Christian: Philippians 2:3-8 Do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit, but in humility consider others better than yourselves. Each of you should look not only to your own interests, but also to the interests of others. Your attitude should be the same as that of Christ Jesus: Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be grasped, but made himself nothing, taking the very nature of a servant, being made in human likeness. And being found in appearance as a man, he humbled himself and became obedient to death – even death on a cross!
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
Well I was born the child of God, and I was saved and reborn by the grace of God. Christ has bestowed numerous gifts on me, answered all of my prayers- increased favor upon me, and my family and all who I pray for. He has saved me from a life of darkness and death, he has provided everything he said he would provide for me. I want nothing in my life. My cup overflows, and I know everything I am and I have comes from God. He hasn't held anything back. He has given me a richer life than I had ever imagined, and he continues to grow my spiritual gift to one of great power, that other people seek out and respect. I have been able to lead other people to Christ, who have then beaten addiction and some have been able to break the bondage of crime, and he has given me a passion to serve people, that benefits me daily. I have deep joy in my life- and I see God in everything, everywhere I go, and I am paired with other people who feel the same way. And he makes his face to shine upon me day and night, never leaving my side and always helping me see the right direction to go. And you want to tell me I am not a Christian? Seriously?? Who should I believe, you or God?
Yes.
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
Sounds like you have a grievance with God, because he calls me his beloved, saved, child~ and he rains down love, blessings and acceptance upon me. You might want to take your findings and rebuke of me to the man upstairs. Because you don't seem to be hearing what I am telling you. Best of luck with that. :)
Thanks for these. I'll check them out, and get back to you later.
_____________________________________________________________________________________________ You ain't God or his chosen one.
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
Well, it sounds like you know all the right things to say, but every time I meet someone saying the stuff you do it turns out they're full of it. Not saying you are, but it seems like it from your postings, lol. Work on that, okay?
------------------------------------- Well actually I am- there is no doubt about it. John 15:16 I have been chosen and appointed to bear fruit. Anyone who seeks God, is chosen by God and is his chosen one.
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~Winston Churchill
#2. To: Ignore Amos, A K A Stone (#1)
24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
#3. To: Godwinson (#2)
Protestants.....especially the American ones......
~Winston Churchill
#4. To: Ignore Amos (#3)
I don't know what your issue is with American protestants,
#5. To: Ignore Amos (#3)
#6. To: diva betsy ross, Ignore Amos (#5)
I have a slightly slanted view of God's child that I would like to share.
#7. To: Godwinson (#4)
They are the ones pushing end time scenarios and in many cases using those fabricated end times scenarios to lobby politicians.
#8. To: Godwinson (#4)
I don't know what your issue is with American protestants,
~Winston Churchill
#9. To: Rudgear (#7)
Your secular liberal Democrats do the same with commie end times scenarios such as global warming, overpopulation, radical environmentalism etc. You believe the devil's counterfeit of the truth.
#10. To: Godwinson (#6)
#11. To: diva betsy ross (#5)
If we obey and seek
~Winston Churchill
#12. To: Ignore Amos (#8)
#13. To: A K A Stone (#0)
(Edited)
#14. To: Ignore Amos (#11)
#15. To: diva betsy ross (#10)
Well all I can tell you is that each day God has shown his grace to me in ways that can only be describe as miracles, and that favor does not seem to have an end in sight. So reject that testimony if you must, but, I wouldn't want to be you when the end times come.
#16. To: Godwinson (#15)
#17. To: diva betsy ross (#16)
You may wish you examine why you think my testimony is untrue.
#18. To: Rek (#17)
#19. To: diva betsy ross (#18)
Well technically it is called self esteem. :) My ego is perfectly balanced, thank you.
#20. To: Rek (#19)
#21. To: Godwinson (#12)
Insanity.
~Winston Churchill
#22. To: diva betsy ross (#20)
Well then, thank you for admitting that you do not know or understand the Bible. That goes along way.
#23. To: diva betsy ross, Rek (#20)
#24. To: Ignore Amos (#21)
I don't believe having an opinion on end-time events is a definition of insanity.
#25. To: A K A Stone (#0)
#26. To: Don (#25)
~Winston Churchill
#27. To: Ignore Amos (#26)
#28. To: Ignore Amos (#26)
#29. To: Godwinson (#23)
(Edited)
#30. To: Don, Ignore Amos (#27)
The verses that talk about the Rapture have been there for the last two thousand years. Look over this material and see what you think.
#31. To: diva betsy ross, Rek (#29)
Oh ye of little faith. Self esteem isn't pride. You have so much to learn about God and God's love. I hope you figure it all out before you expire, because that will be the best thing that could possibly happen for you.
#32. To: Godwinson (#31)
(Edited)
#33. To: diva betsy ross, Rek (#32)
God has not given me any indication at all that he wants me to submit or humble myself to you,
#34. To: Godwinson (#33)
#35. To: diva betsy ross (#34)
And you want to tell me I am not a Christian?
#36. To: Godwinson (#35)
#37. To: Don (#27)
"If you're 20 and not a liberal, you have no heart. It you're 40 and not a conservative, you have no brain."
~Winston Churchill
#38. To: diva betsy ross (#36)
(Edited)
Sounds like you have a grievance with God
#39. To: diva betsy ross (#34)
Why don't you make like a tree and get out of here?
#40. To: Godwinson (#38)
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