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Title: Consumer Reports: Government Motors's Volt 'doesn't really make a lot of sense'
Source: The Detroit News
URL Source: http://detnews.com/article/20110228/AUTO01/102280401
Published: Mar 1, 2011
Author: David Shepardson / Detroit News Washingt
Post Date: 2011-03-01 07:19:39 by Happy Quanzaa
Keywords: eco-moonbat engineering, Obama Motors
Views: 2664
Comments: 8

Washington — Consumer Reports offered a harsh initial review of the Chevrolet Volt, questioning whether General Motors Co.'s flagship vehicle makes economic "sense."The extended-range plug-in electric vehicle is on the cover of the April issue — the influential magazine's annual survey of vehicles — but the GM vehicle comes in for criticism.

"When you are looking at purely dollars and cents, it doesn't really make a lot of sense. The Volt isn't particularly efficient as an electric vehicle and it's not particularly good as a gas vehicle either in terms of fuel economy," said David Champion, the senior director of Consumer Reports auto testing center at a meeting with reporters here. "This is going to be a tough sell to the average consumer."

The magazine said in its testing in Connecticut during a harsh winter, its Volt is getting 25 to 27 miles on electric power alone.

GM spokesman Greg Martin noted that it's been an extremely harsh winter — and as a Volt driver he said he's getting 29-33 miles on electric range. But he noted that in more moderate recent weather, the range jumped to 40 miles on electric range or higher.

Champion believes a hybrid, such as the Toyota Prius, may make more sense for some trips.

"If you drive about 70 miles, a Prius will actually get you more miles per gallon than the Volt does," Champion said.

But GM has noted that most Americans can avoid using gasoline for most regular commuting with the Volt, while its gasoline engine can allow the freedom to travel farther, if needed.

The magazine has put about 2,500 miles on its Volt. It paid $48,700, including a $5,000 markup by a Chevy dealer.

Champion noted the Volt is about twice as expensive as a Prius.

He was said the five hour time to recharge the Volt was "annoying" and was also critical of the power of the Volt heating system.

"You have seat heaters, which keep your body warm, but your feet get cold and your hands get cold," Champion said.

Consumer Reports will release a full road test of the Volt later this year and will update it.

Champion praised the heater on the all-electric Nissan Leaf - which Consumer Reports borrowed from the Japanese automaker -- but said it also got very short ranges in very cold weather.

On one commute, his range in a Leaf was at 43 miles when he turned onto an eight-mile stretch of highway, but it fell from 43 to 16 miles after eight miles at 70 mph.

"If it keeps on going down at this rate, will I get to work," Champion said.

Champion said in an interview he thinks the Volt "will sell the quantity that they want to sell to the people that really want it."

Despite his criticism of the Volt, Champion praised its acceleration and acknowledged that under certain driving cycles, consumers could mostly avoid using gasoline. The magazine noted the Volt is nicely equipped and has a "taut yet supple ride."

But he said there are a lot of trade-offs.

"They are going to live with the compromises the vehicle delivers," Champion said. "When you look at it from a purely logical point of view, it doesn't make an awful lot of sense."

Before Consumer Reports decides whether to recommend the Volt, it needs data from at least 100 subscribers who own one, and a year of reliability data.

dshepardson@detnews.com

(202) 662-8735

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#1. To: Happy Quanzaa (#0)

Why do you hate America?

"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-03-01   9:25:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Happy Quanzaa (#0)

Electric cars are a great idea and theory,but the reality ain't here yet,and may still be years or even decades away. It's going to take a HUGE breakthrough in battery technology and design,and in solar charging to make it truly practical.

There was a electric sports car tested on the BBC program "Top Gear" recently. They tested it and liked the torque but said the obvious,"It just isn't developed far enough to be pratical." There was a "green" true-believer on the show ranting and raving about how despite the drawbacks the car was good for the environment and cheaper to operate because it doesn't use any oil. One of the Top Gear guys asked him "where do you think the power comes from to recharge the batteries?",and the guy smiles and says "From the plug!".

No lie is too big for the true believers of any religion to swallow,and this includes the new religion of environmentalism.

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sneakypete  posted on  2011-03-01   9:27:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: sneakypete (#2)

There was a electric sports car tested on the BBC program "Top Gear" recently. They tested it and liked the torque but said the obvious,"It just isn't developed far enough to be pratical." There was a "green" true-believer on the show ranting and raving about how despite the drawbacks the car was good for the environment and cheaper to operate because it doesn't use any oil. One of the Top Gear guys asked him "where do you think the power comes from to recharge the batteries?",and the guy smiles and says "From the plug!".

And that, in a nutshell, demonstrates the idiocy of enviroNAZIs.

Socialist ass-hats think "There will be no more money when the U.S. dollar has no value, until that time we can keep printing more." And yes, that IS from LF's answer to Ben Bernanke, go65, leading disfunctional and delusional socialist of the forum.

"You want me to kill THE ENEMIES of Jappos, I'll kill THE ENEMIES of Jappos, Rebs, or Sioux, or Cheyenne... For 500 bucks a month I'll kill whoever you want. But keep one thing in mind: I'd happily kill you for free." Algren, "The Last Samurai"

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-03-01   17:27:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: sneakypete (#2)

At the same time we're being told that the electrical grid is in such bad shape that we have to have a "smart meter" at our house so electric companies can remotely set our home thermostat, allow or disallow us the use of certain appliances at certain times; have rolling blackouts and brownouts; that we must remove electricity producing dams from rivers (for the fish's sake); we must not use wind power (Save the birds!!); we must shut down coal burning power plants, nuclear power plants, oil burning power plants; and that we must not use incandescent light bulbs, we are being told we must buy cars that plug into this very same grid.

Don't pass it off as them being stupid pete. This is an attack on private ownership of vehicles.

We're in an "L" shaped ambush.

And the sheep will bleat their submission,
Seeing the others as fools,
Not knowing nor even caring,
They've become no more than tools.

Burma Shave.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2011-03-01   18:26:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Wood_Chopper (#4) (Edited)

We need to remove all dams from all rivers.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-03-01   18:27:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Wood_Chopper (#4)

Don't pass it off as them being stupid pete.

Don't worry about that. I have never doubted for a instant that it is a deliberate power grab by people who think they are so much smarter than us that they know what is best for us and are determined to make us live according to their dictates.

This is an attack on private ownership of vehicles.

It's more than that. It is the first step towards their goal of eliminating our mobility in order to force us all into "Stalin Cities" so they can have total control over our lives.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2011-03-01   20:09:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Ferret Mike (#5)

We need to remove all dams from all rivers.

I would love to see the Feather River (alias P G and E River) without it's hydro electric dams planted every three to five miles. There's lots of old historical relics at the bottom of Nimbus dam too.

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Rek  posted on  2011-03-01   20:44:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: sneakypete (#6)

It is the first step towards their goal of eliminating our mobility in order to force us all into "Stalin Cities" so they can have total control over our lives.

You got that shit right.

And the sheep will bleat their submission,
Seeing the others as fools,
Not knowing nor even caring,
They've become no more than tools.

Burma Shave.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2011-03-01   23:32:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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