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Title: The Wisconsin Lie Exposed – Taxpayers Actually Contribute Nothing To Public Employee Pensions
Source: Forbes
URL Source: http://blogs.forbes.com/rickungar/2 ... g-to-public-employee-pensions/
Published: Feb 25, 2011
Author: Rick Ungar
Post Date: 2011-02-25 23:27:34 by lucysmom
Keywords: Politics, Pensions, lies
Views: 39250
Comments: 57

Pulitzer Prize winning tax reporter, David Cay Johnston, has written a brilliant piece for http://tax.com exposing the truth about who really pays for the pension and benefits for public employees in Wisconsin.

"Gov. Scott Walker says he wants state workers covered by collective bargaining agreements to “contribute more” to their pension and health insurance plans. Accepting Gov. Walker’ s assertions as fact, and failing to check, creates the impression that somehow the workers are getting something extra, a gift from taxpayers. They are not. Out of every dollar that funds Wisconsin’ s pension and health insurance plans for state workers, 100 cents comes from the state workers."

Via http://tax.com

How can this be possible?

Simple. The pension plan is the direct result of deferred compensation- money that employees would have been paid as cash salary but choose, instead, to have placed in the state operated pension fund where the money can be professionally invested (at a lower cost of management) for the future.

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#8. To: lucysmom (#0)

Taxpayers Actually Contribute Nothing To Public Employee Pensions

Who pays the employees fookin salaries, the tooth fairy?

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2011-02-26   5:18:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Ibluafartsky (#8)

Who pays the employees fookin salaries, the tooth fairy?

OK, so when youse guys say youse want government employees to contribute more of their own money to their own pensions, exactly what does you mean?

lucysmom  posted on  2011-02-26   9:56:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: lucysmom (#11)

exactly what does you mean?

The Kochsuckers can take the money the taxpayer has paid them and contribute more of it to pension and healthcare plans just like other people are required to do if we want either.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2011-02-27   5:35:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Ibluafartsky (#27)

The Kochsuckers can take the money the taxpayer has paid them and contribute more of it to pension and healthcare plans just like other people are required to do if we want either.

Not everyone is required to do that. It is not uncommon for upper level corporate management to have their retirement, health insurance, life insurance, and what ever else entirely paid for by their employer. Sometimes the corporation even pays their income tax. Just to be fair, complain about that.

In other words, defer more of their current income to future payments. I do believe that is how state employees came to have nice retirement checks. Follow your plan and some Fartsky in the future will complain about even larger pension payouts never understanding that it is the employee's very own money grown through investment.

Why shouldn't the American people take half my money from me? I took all of it from them. Edward Albert Filene

"Filene (of Boston's Filene's Department Stores) founded the U.S. Chamber of Commerce to encourage businesses to contribute to the welfare of their communities. He eventually quit the organization, disappointed that it had become a bastion of right-wing conservatism and an anti-tax lobby."

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#30. To: lucysmom (#28)

It is not uncommon for upper level corporate management to have their retirement, health insurance, life insurance, and what ever else entirely paid for by their employer.

Their employer isn't the TAXPAYER!

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2011-02-27 15:53:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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