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Title: Wisconsin Gov. Walker's Punk'd Phone Call Is A Viral Hit
Source: MinnPost
URL Source: http://www.minnpost.com/dailyglean/ ... unkd_phone_call_is_a_viral_hit
Published: Feb 23, 2011
Author: Brian Lambert
Post Date: 2011-02-24 00:00:48 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 15637
Comments: 26

Really? A 20- to 25-minute conversation and he didn’t know he was being punk’d? The tale of Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker’s bogus phone conversation with a guy he thought was multi-billionaire conservative tycoon David H. Koch is making serious waves. The AP story says: “On the call, Walker joked about bringing a baseball bat to a meeting with Democratic leaders, said it would "be outstanding" to be flown out to California by Koch for a good time after the battle is over, and said he expected the anti-union movement to spread across the country. Audio was posted on the Buffalo Beast, a left-leaning website based in New York, and quickly spread across the Internet. That Beast's website is down, but the phone call audio is available here. Democrats ripped Walker's comments on the call on the Assembly floor Wednesday morning, saying they had nothing to do with his assertion that legislation stripping public employees' collective bargaining rights is needed to help solve a looming budget deficit.” Un-bleeping-believable.

Greg Sargeant on the Washington Post’s “Plum Line” blog believes the  call to be real — as in a real prank that Walker swallowed whole. He notes, “ Another key exchange: FAKE KOCH: What we were thinking about the crowds was, planting some troublemakers. WALKER: We thought about that. My only gut reaction to that would be, right now, the lawmakers I talk to have just completely had it with them. The public is not really fond of this. The teachers union did some polling and focus groups... It's unclear what Walker means when he says he "thought" about planting some troublemakers, but it seems fair to ask him for clarification.” Oh, I think Walker’s going to be asked for A LOT of clarification.

Here’s a link to the transcript.

 

 

And uh, then there are the actual legal issues related to parts of his purely political conversation. The lefty Public Campaign Action Fund is saying: “ ‘In a call with who he thought to be billionaire political donor, David Koch, Gov. Walker may have broken campaign finance and ethics laws,’ said David Donnelly, national campaigns director for Public Campaign Action Fund. ‘If he did, he should resign. If you didn’t believe it before, you have to now — this fight isn’t about the budget, it’s about favors for corporate special interests,’ continued Donnelly. ‘If Wisconsin law forbids coordination with political donors similar to federal law, Gov. Scott Walker is not just in political trouble, but in legal hot water.’ Public Campaign Action Fund is currently in discussions with election experts on whether Gov. Walker may have broken state election law and whether a complaint should be filed.

[Relevant section (At the 4-minute mark]: "Gov. Walker: ‘After this in some of the coming days and weeks ahead, particularly in some of these more swing areas, a lot of these guys are going to need, they don’t need initially ads for them, but they’re going to need a message out. Reinforcing why this was a good thing to do for the economy, a good thing to do for the state. So to the extent that message is out over and over again is certainly a good thing.’
[Prankster] Ian Murphy (posing as David Koch): ‘Right, right. We’ll back you any way we can.’ ” What’ll be almost as interesting here is how many people won’t see anything at all wrong with such a conversation.

Sam Stein at The Huffington Post talks with prankster Murphy: “Ian Murphy, the editor of the Buffalo Beast, told The Huffington Post in an interview that he was ‘shocked’ at how easy it was to get Walker, currently the nation's most-talked-about governor, on the phone merely by pretending to be a billionaire donor. ‘Fifteen minutes in, I wanted to almost stop it and say, 'Are you so dumb, I'm not David Koch. How can your staff be so incompetent and how could I get on the phone with you so easily,' Murphy said, barely suppressing his glee. ‘But I didn't.’ Instead, Murphy spent an additional five minutes talking to Walker about a host of outlandish proposals and takes on the protests that have erupted around the governor's anti-union budget legislation. Walker's office insists that he said nothing on the phone with Murphy that he wouldn't have said in public.” Riiiiight.

David Dayten at Firedoglake fumes: “There are tens of thousands of Wisconsin citizens outside in Madison, inside the Capitol Rotunda, who cannot get an audience with Scott Walker. “David Koch” can call and talk to him for 20 minutes. This power imbalance is at the heart of our corporate-captured government. Without a strong citizen’s movement, people like the Koch Brothers would have all the access, all the influence, and all the power. And they would get legislation written their way, protecting and furthering their interests. And best of all, Murphy didn’t have to pretend to be a pimp or a prostitute in order to do it. Or, depending on your opinion of Mr. Koch, he did.”

What FoxNews’ primetime hosts say tonight is a different matter, but even the Fox website is reporting: “The Koch brothers own Koch Industries, Inc., which is the largest privately-owned company in America [second after Cargill, I believe] and has significant operations in Wisconsin. Its political action committee gave $43,000 to Walker's campaign, and donated heavily to the Republican Governors' Association, which funded ads attacking Walker's opponent in last year's election. The Kochs also give millions to support Americans For Prosperity, which launched a $320,000 television ad campaign in favor of Walker's legislation on Wednesday and already has a website, standwithwalker.com, where more than 60,000 have signed a petition supporting his plan. ... On the call, Walker talks about speaking with Democratic Sen. Tim Cullen, one of the Democrats hiding in Illinois to stop the bill, and telling Cullen he would not budge. He describes Cullen as ‘pretty reasonable but he's not one of us.’ Cullen called the call an ‘astounding confirmation of what we've been saying for a couple weeks now.’

In their own strange way, Minnesota’s anti-tax Republicans are looking at enhancing revenue. MPR’s Tom Scheck reports: “The chair of the Minnesota Senate Tax Committee says she's going to look at eliminating some tax deductions. Sen. Julianne Ortman, R-Chanhassen, said she'd like to look at each deduction, whether it's for home mortgage interest or tax breaks for research and development. Minnesota's tax code includes billions of dollars in tax breaks. ... Ortman said there are a few breaks she thinks are working including the mortgage interest deduction, which she said helps promote home ownership. She didn't specify which deductions she would target.” Always with that “specify” thing. Can’t we live by sweeping generalities?

My own unscientific survey says  snow and ice do nothing to reduce the amount of absolutely wacked driving. But pity the highway patrol ... The AP reports: “[E]ight troopers have been struck by vehicles on state roads in the past three days. The State Patrol also says 31 troopers have been hit since November. That's up from the 13 troopers struck by vehicles during the same period last year. The State Patrol is holding a news conference today to address safety issues and highlight the state's "Move Over" law.” But, like, can I move after I send this text?

Interesting dust-up between a Minneapolis parish and the Archdiocese of St. Paul and Minneapolis (which has a lot of other problems.) Rose French, blogging on the Strib’s “Acts of Faith” page, says: “At a recent Sunday Mass at St. Edward's Catholic Church in Bloomington, a woman stepped up to the podium on the altar — and started to preach. For at least one parishioner, the act of a female lay person (albeit with a master’s degree in theology from St. Paul seminary) addressing the congregation during the homily portion of the worship service was too out of bounds. So the parishioner contacted the Archdiocese of St. Paul and Minneapolis after the Jan. 23 service. And not long after, the Rev. Peter Laird, the archdiocese vicar general, spoke to St. Edward’s pastor, the Rev. Mike Tegeder, about the situation. According to Tegeder, Laird said it was not appropriate for a lay person to preach during the homily, the part of the Mass when priests or deacons usually reflect on the Gospel and scripture.” Not even when they’re pitching the latest building project?

On another Strib blog, Jim Buchta, the paper’s real estate guy, writes: “The National Association of Realtors (NAR) said Wednesday that existing home sales nationwide rose 2.7 percent during January, but prices fell to their lowest level in almost nine years. ... At the same time a Wall Street Journal report yesterday said that NAR might have over-reported the number of home sales in recent years, a revelation that suggests that the housing downturn has been worse than previously thought. The group is looking into the possiblity that consolidations among the Realtor groups that report the data might have contributed to inaccuracies in its sales numbers going back to 2007.

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#1. To: Brian S (#0)

Audio was posted on the Buffalo Beast, a left-leaning website based in New York,

Ian Murphy, Kochsucker and imposter is a convicted criminal. Could the libturd be guilty of fraud and impersonating?

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2011-02-24   0:08:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Ibluafartsky (#1)

Ian Murphy, Kochsucker and imposter is a convicted criminal. Could the libturd be guilty of fraud and impersonating?

As far an Walker is concerned, that doesn't matter. Ian Murphy provided the rope and the governor seems to have hung himself.

You have the courage to tell the masses what no politician told them: you are inferior and all the improvements in your conditions which you simply take for granted you owe to the efforts of men who are better than you. Ludwig von Mises in a letter to Ayn Rand

lucysmom  posted on  2011-02-24   1:07:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: lucysmom (#2)

As far an Walker is concerned, that doesn't matter. Ian Murphy provided the rope and the governor seems to have hung himself.

How so?

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-24   1:13:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: A K A Stone, lucysmom (#3)

How so?

Lucifer Lucy lives in Lala land.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2011-02-24   1:15:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Ibluafartsky (#4)

I think she works/worked for the government.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-24   1:20:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: A K A Stone (#3)

How so?

He made it clear in the tape that his goal wasn't about balancing the budget, its about union busting.

You have the courage to tell the masses what no politician told them: you are inferior and all the improvements in your conditions which you simply take for granted you owe to the efforts of men who are better than you. Ludwig von Mises in a letter to Ayn Rand

lucysmom  posted on  2011-02-24   1:55:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: A K A Stone (#5)

I think she works/worked for the government.

Think what you like, it doesn't alter the truth.

You have the courage to tell the masses what no politician told them: you are inferior and all the improvements in your conditions which you simply take for granted you owe to the efforts of men who are better than you. Ludwig von Mises in a letter to Ayn Rand

lucysmom  posted on  2011-02-24   1:55:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: lucysmom (#6)

He made it clear in the tape that his goal wasn't about balancing the budget, its about union busting.

What specifically are you talking about? Can you please provide a quote?

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-24   1:57:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: lucysmom (#7)

Think what you like, it doesn't alter the truth.

That isn't a denial.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-24   1:57:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: A K A Stone (#8)

Can you please provide a quote?

This is an exciting time. This is — you know, I told my cabinet, I had a dinner the Sunday, or excuse me, the Monday right after the 6th. Came home from the Super Bowl where the Packers won, and that Monday night I had all of my cabinet over to the residence for dinner. Talked about what we were gonna do, how we were gonna do it. We’d already kinda built plans up, but it was kind of the last hurrah before we dropped the bomb. And I stood up and I pulled out a picture of Ronald Reagan, and I said, you know, this may seem a little melodramatic, but 30 years ago, Ronald Reagan, whose 100th birthday we just celebrated the day before, had one of the most defining moments of his political career, not just his presidency, when he fired the air-traffic controllers.

All through the conversation Walker makes the point that he is gonna have things his way.

You have the courage to tell the masses what no politician told them: you are inferior and all the improvements in your conditions which you simply take for granted you owe to the efforts of men who are better than you. Ludwig von Mises in a letter to Ayn Rand

lucysmom  posted on  2011-02-24   2:35:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: A K A Stone (#9)

That isn't a denial.

I suppose not. Are you checking my bona fides, commissar?

I worked for a college about 27 years ago, and did a short stint as a contractor with NASA mapping Mars.

You have the courage to tell the masses what no politician told them: you are inferior and all the improvements in your conditions which you simply take for granted you owe to the efforts of men who are better than you. Ludwig von Mises in a letter to Ayn Rand

lucysmom  posted on  2011-02-24   2:40:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: lucysmom (#11)

and did a short stint as a contractor with NASA mapping Mars.

That sounds interesting. If you could sometime post something interesting you learned about mars.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-24   7:40:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: lucysmom (#10)

I don't see a smoking gun here. I can see how some people could read something into that.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-24   7:42:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: A K A Stone (#12)

If you could sometime post something interesting you learned about mars.

Shouldn't you be pinging Mudgear? He lives there.

war  posted on  2011-02-24   8:57:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: A K A Stone (#13)

I don't see a smoking gun here.

FAKE KOCH: What we were thinking about the crowds was, planting some troublemakers.

WALKER: We thought about that.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Apparently you don't read with those eyes that can't see.

war  posted on  2011-02-24   8:59:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Brian S (#0)

BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

And you could tell the pause in LF, when their orders were delayed on the Feudal Express.

The Top 50 000 want a Feudal System. They're out of cash. Insolvent.

And they demand that the Bottom 98% become slaves. See Libya for details.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-02-24   9:05:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: war (#15) (Edited)

FAKE KOCH: What we were thinking about the crowds was, planting some troublemakers.

WALKER: We thought about that.

Indiana Deputy AG Use live ammunition:

Search Results

1. News for Indiana Deputy AG Use live ammunition

2. Daily Mail Indiana Deputy AG Loses Job After Live Ammo Tweet 56 minutes ago By Debra Cassens Weiss A deputy attorney general in Indiana recently tweeted ... for police facing pro-labor protesters in Wisconsin: “Use live ammunition. ... ABA Journal -

Looking forward to Not reading this on LF.

8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-02-24   9:06:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: mcgowanjm (#16)

War Debt and Tax Avoidance: Causes of French Revolution

Tax Evasion: The major reason the French had to borrow for their wars was because they didn’t pull in enough revenue through taxation. The French clergy and nobility, which were the wealthiest sections or Estates in French society, held 90% of the national wealth, but they were practically exempt from most forms of taxation, freedom from taxation being one of the chief legal distinctions and prerogatives of European feudal nobility since the collapse of the Roman Empire. As a result, taxation only fell on the peasants, middle class and the upper middle class, who together comprised 90% of French society, but only held 10% of its wealth.

open.salon.com/blog/rw005...uses_of_french_revolution

You have the courage to tell the masses what no politician told them: you are inferior and all the improvements in your conditions which you simply take for granted you owe to the efforts of men who are better than you. Ludwig von Mises in a letter to Ayn Rand

lucysmom  posted on  2011-02-24   10:01:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: lucysmom (#18)

As a result, taxation only fell on the peasants, middle class and the upper middle class, who together comprised 90% of French society, but only held 10% of its wealth.

And then the French stormed the Bastille. ;}

And Wealth Disparity in the US is now the greatest in World History.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-02-24   10:06:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: war (#15)

Thoughts aren't actions. What would have the actions been? You don't know because it was a thought.

Have you ever thought of beating some one up. If so you should be prosecuted right.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-24   10:21:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: mcgowanjm (#17)

Indiana Deputy AG Use live ammunition:

Republicans have better values. He is now fired, justly so.

On the other hand get bloody democrat is still in office.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-24   10:22:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: A K A Stone (#20)

Thoughts aren't actions.

Proverbs 23:7

war  posted on  2011-02-24   10:25:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: A K A Stone (#21)

Republicans have better values. He is now fired, justly so.

8D And you're serious.

And you have SomeTeimers. ;}

Do I really need to list the Republican Values Trail of Tears now? Or can that wait?

Hint: OMFGPalin ;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-02-24   10:25:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: All (#23)

Tyler Durden's picture New Home Sales Plummet 13% To 284,000 Annualized Rate, 19K Actual Homes Sold Lowest Monthly Ever Submitted by Tyler Durden on 02/24/2011 10:16 -0500

And of course this has absolutely fuck all to do with the Wisconsin Middle Class being forced into serfdom.

Blankfein Koch wonder what a google of that would pull up.

Let's see.

Search Results

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2. GRITtv » lloyd blankfein Philip Rizk, Phyllis Bennis, Uncloaking Koch & Inequality ... This time around, we've seen CEOs like Lloyd Blankfein of Goldman Sachs face a scolding in ... www.grittv.org/tag/lloyd-blankfein/ - Cached

3. EconomicPolicyJournal.com: Goldman, Blankfein and the New ... Jul 17, 2010 ... It's important to keep in mind that Goldman and Blankfein are not one in .... The Koch brothers have hired the Terminator's PR operative, ... www.economicpolicyjournal.com/.../goldman-blankfein-and-new-financial.html - Cached

4. Lloyd Blankfein Tries Reverse Psychology On Members Of The Board ... Feb 23, 2011 ... Months after Blankfein says, please don't pay me any cash salary. ... Pretending To Be David Koch · Big Picture: The Battle of Madison ... www.businessinsider.com/lloyd-blankfein-2-million-salary-2011-2

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

serfs.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA 8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-02-24   10:30:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: A K A Stone (#3)

A pair of right wing billionaires referred to as Koch brothers was major backers of Republican Scott Walker, the newly-elected Wisconsin governor. Here is the proof: David Koch poser gets Wis. Gov. Scott Walker to reveal ploy Someone posing as David Koch on the telephone recorded a discussion in which Walker spoke of lying to Democrats to be able to get union-busting legislation passed. Walker took the bait and told the caller all about deceptive plans to kneecap unions that would leave Democrats powerless to respond.

gianH  posted on  2011-02-26   1:31:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: mcgowanjm (#24)

this has absolutely fuck all

McGoon, you seem to be a Kochsucker just like Ian Murphy.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2011-02-26   5:36:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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