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Title: Rep. Allen West vs. Quran-wielding CAIR exec 'I went to Muslim countries to defend the freedom of Muslim people'
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=266849
Published: Feb 23, 2011
Author: WND
Post Date: 2011-02-23 18:53:14 by Mad Dog
Keywords: the truth, hurts, CAIR
Views: 19257
Comments: 32

One of the members of the Class of 2010 in the U.S. House of Representatives has revealed he has little patience for the politically correct arguments that Islam is, in fact, a religion of peace and nonaggression.

"Don't try to blow sunshine up my butt," U.S. Rep. Allen West, R-Fla., warned a member of a town hall meeting audience who had challenged him to identify a single verse in the Quran that tells Muslims to attack America.

The comments came earlier this week at Pompano Beach, Fla., during a question-and-answer time at his meeting. A questioner identified by the Palm Beach Post as Nezar Hamze, executive director for a branch of the Council for American Islamic Relations, confronted West, demanding that he point out where in the Quran are the orders for Muslims to attack America.

"You recently told the Marines that the terrorists that attacked the United States, the people that are attacking America, are following Islam, and they are following the instructions of the Quran," he said.

"So, a very simply question. I'm not going to take a lot of your time. Can you show me one verse in this Quran where it says to attack America, attack Americans, or attack innocent people?" he said.

West noted the Quran was written in the 8th or 9th centuries and America didn't exist at the time, but noted, "The truth is out there." He cited the multiple Quranic references to attack and kill "infidels."

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He started listing a series of battles before he was drowned out by applause and cheering from the audience.

"It (Islam) became violent," West continued when the cheering died down. "Something happened when Mohammed enacted the Isra, and he left Mecca and went out to Medina. It became violent. You explain it to me.

"Maj. Hasan was shouting allahu akbar. The people that flew those planes … were shouting allahu akbar. I've been on the battlefield my friend," he said.

"Don't try to blow sunshine up my butt and tell me…..," he said, to more applause.

The Muslim activist responded, "I'm ashamed to be here with all of these people when you attack Islam, you attack…"

An audience member interrupted with, "You attacked us!"

West said, "I went to Muslim countries to try to defend the freedom of Muslim people. Don't come up here to try to criticize me. Put the microphone down and go home."

A video of the exchange has been posted online by Shark- Tank.net:

West's references were to Maj. Nidal Hasan, who is accused of shooting and killing more than a dozen members of the U.S. military at Fort Hood, as well as the terrorists who hijacked jets on Sept. 11, 2001, and flew them into the World Trade Center towers and the Pentagon, killing almost 3,000.

Those commenting on the Shark-Tank.net site were more than enthusiastic about West's response.

"You tell 'em Allen!" said one. "You are a true patriot!"

Added another, "Talk about a keeper!! Go West!! This is EXACTLY the kind of straight talking that is needed."

"It was a great opportunity to see a polished professional man lay out America's need to be alert to our enemies within," said a third.

Added Beverly Perlson, of The Band of Mothers, "When Muslims come out and denounce stoning women and babies, when Muslims come [out] and denounce beating women and babies, when Muslims come and denounce honor killings, and so many other sordid and cruel Muslim practices, until then, don't expect Americans to embrace Muslims. Your way of life goes against everything that is beautiful and free about this great country America! Americans will not tolerate child abuse and beating and stoning women and children!!!"

"Go West for POTUS," said another.

PostonPolitics.com, reported West actually addressed that issue.

"We can't have leadership by a cult of personality. I have to prove myself. I have to prove myself as an American statesman, a capable legislator," West said. "Everyone knows how I feel about this country. But there are some things that I have to learn about the inner workings and machinations of Washington, D.C., so that I can be an effective leader."

On that blog's comment page was more support for West: "This man is pure awsomeness! (sic)," said Tom B.

"2012 can't come fast enough. Run Allen Run," said constitution101.

"A CAIR terrorism-supporting Islamofascist trys to intimidate an American who knows all about fascist Islam with a grade school stunt. Pure Gold," said February 22. As WND reported in 2003, West was threatened with court-martial for tactics he used to flush out information from an uncooperative Iraqi policeman. Threatening to kill the Iraqi if he didn't talk, West fired a pistol near the policeman's head, producing an immediate flood of information that purportedly led to the arrest of two insurgents and cessation of attacks on West's 4th Infantry Division battalion.

In a 2008 interview with WND, West said his 2003 ordeal should tell voters what kind of a lawmaker he would be, particularly when it comes to issues of defense.

"If you're a bad guy, and you try to get between me and the safety and lives of American citizens, you're going to lose," West said.

Army prosecutors charged West with aggravated assault, and he faced the possibility of up to eight years in prison. At a hearing, West was asked by his defense attorney if he would do it again.

"If it's about the lives of my men and their safety, I'd go through hell with a gasoline can," he said.

West eventually accepted a nonjudicial punishment and the forfeiture of two months' pay. He retired from the military and moved with his wife, Angela, and two young daughters to Broward County, Florida, where he taught high school. He served in Afghanistan as an adviser to the Afghan army until November 2007.

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#1. To: All (#0)

Don't try to blow sunshine up my butt," U.S. Rep. Allen West, R-Fla., warned a member of a town hall meeting audience who had challenged him to identify a single verse in the Quran that tells Muslims to attack America.

In YOUR FACE "CAIR" et. al.!

Living in mouth breather's empty noggins 24/7/365 totally rent free!

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-02-23   18:54:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Mad Dog (#0)

World Nuts Daily

It is a mere Internet rag based on bullshit, designed by bullshitters with authors that are full of bullshit and fed to dawgs that enjoy smelling bullshit like you.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-02-23   19:02:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Mad Dog (#0)

AIPAC and Zionists weeping.

Reassuring friendly tryants "Admiral Mike Mullen, chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff, arrived in Saudi Arabia on Sunday for the first stage of a Gulf tour to boost US relations with its allies in the region. "Part of what I want to accomplish is to reassure our friends and also just listen to what's on their mind," Mullen told journalists." (thanks AK) Posted by As'ad AbuKhalil at 7:36 AM

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-02-23   19:11:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: buckeroo (#2)

World Nuts Daily

It is a mere Internet rag based on bullshit, designed by bullshitters with authors that are full of bullshit and fed to dawgs that enjoy smelling bullshit like you.

If you side with CAIR over West,you should just come right out and say so.

If you are too ashamed of siding with CAIR to admit it,maybe you should reconsider who you side with?

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2011-02-24   7:01:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: sneakypete (#4)

I can tell your entrapped personality just by the confinement of your own questions. Let me parse each of them.

If you side with CAIR over West,you should just come right out and say so.

I don't side with CAIR so why would you assume so? Because I put Mad Dog in its place because of its incepid posting by World Nuts Daily? WND has consistently lied to EVERYONE using Corsi as an original author; not one of his writings over the years has seen any traction or truth. WND is a fabrication for wishful thinkers whether you think so or not.

If you are too ashamed of siding with CAIR to admit it,maybe you should reconsider who you side with?

I note the way you create your own question based on shame. I think you are agree with World Nuts Daily as a co-host.

So lets cut to the fucking core of your complaint. West has consistently sided with Zionists in their own pursuit of eliminating Palestinnians from their own farms and livlihood while Israel expands its borders illegally.

West has also publically stated that he is for MORE US economic and military aid to Israel irrespective of any outcome based on objective truth, science or any other foundation other than being another evangelanical religious fanatic.

Now, let me sum up your questions in a way you can understand: Go fuck yourself zealot.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-02-24   15:00:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: buckeroo (#5)

WND has consistently lied to EVERYONE

Name ONE news outlet that hasn't done the same thing.

We live in a world where The National Enquirer is one of the most reliable news sources.

So lets cut to the fucking core of your complaint. West has consistently sided with Zionists in their own pursuit of eliminating Palestinnians from their own farms and livlihood while Israel expands its borders illegally.

I don't know this,and I don't even care about it. What happens there is none of my concern. I am content to let the Israeli's and the Palestinians work it out.

Or not.

I DO care about his future stands on this issue now that he is a Congresscritter,though. He was elected to public office to serve Florida and America,not Israel. I will continue to strongly support him until I see evidence he is acting as a Zionist while serving in Congress.

West has also publically stated that he is for MORE US economic and military aid to Israel irrespective of any outcome based on objective truth, science or any other foundation other than being another evangelanical religious fanatic.

If that is true,he is toast as far as I am concerned. I only support American Firsters,and even then they have to be people who don't think the survival and well-being of America are dependent on superstitious religious beliefs. There are already enough loons in Congress as it is.

Go fuck yourself zealot.

Eat shit and die,retard.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2011-02-25   8:43:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: sneakypete (#6)

Name ONE news outlet that hasn't done the same thing. We live in a world where The National Enquirer is one of the most reliable news sources.

Beyond your meager attempt to slither away from my earlier pointed consideration:

[buckeroo: ]WND has consistently lied to EVERYONE

by the use of other silly newspapers within your own daily read, you have added another useless "news" website to your daily gluttony for lies. The equation of WND to the National Enquirer is fascinating; it proves you already have a appetite for pure crap to feed your head.

[buckeroo: ]So lets cut to the fucking core of your complaint. West has consistently sided with Zionists in their own pursuit of eliminating Palestinnians from their own farms and livlihood while Israel expands its borders illegally.

I don't know this,and I don't even care about it. What happens there is none of my concern. I am content to let the Israeli's and the Palestinians work it out.

Or not.

America has and continues to be sucked into the aid of Israel where no other nation on the planet does so. Even in the Security Council of the UN, ten of the eleven countries having a decisive vote for comdenation of Israel about their increasing manifest destiny bruhaha within the West Bank and Gaza was circumvented by none other than the USA. Now, more than anytime in the past, Israel is facing a defensive posture while the increasingly hostile religious muslims are taking down the power structures that the USA preserved for decades because of those same dictatorships being lenient towards Israel.

And you hide your head in the sand? You don't sense hostility towards the USA because of our own handling of ME foreign affairs? Are you daft, blind and lazy towards the issues of the day beliving in some wishful thinking that ONLY Palestinnians Hamas and Israel shall eventually knock each other out? Get your war paint on, you are about to be drafted to aid you one and only ally in the ME.

I DO care about his future stands on this issue now that he is a Congresscritter,though. He was elected to public office to serve Florida and America,not Israel. I will continue to strongly support him until I see evidence he is acting as a Zionist while serving in Congress.

[buckeroo: ]West has also publically stated that he is for MORE US economic and military aid to Israel irrespective of any outcome based on objective truth, science or any other foundation other than being another evangelanical religious fanatic.

If that is true,he is toast as far as I am concerned. I only support American Firsters,and even then they have to be people who don't think the survival and well-being of America are dependent on superstitious religious beliefs. There are already enough loons in Congress as it is.

You should get out more often. Congress is in session. Watch how he votes in foreign aid to Israel. Watch it. And then come back with your tail between your legs.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-02-25   12:38:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: buckeroo (#7)

You are still the same insane shithead you have always been.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2011-02-25   19:55:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: buckeroo (#5)

while Israel expands its borders illegally.

You don't believe in sovereign nations. You believe in Americas enemy the UN. Sad but true. Wake up Buckeroo.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-25   20:01:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: sneakypete (#8)

You pathetic old fart, what's the matter couldn't take the FACT that your pal West is a GODDAMNED ZIONIST?

Por wittle ol' sneakypete's feelers are hurt.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-02-25   20:02:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: A K A Stone (#9)

Wake up?

You are still in bed wiping your groggy eyes while I have studied this situation for decades; unlike a lot of folks that take sides in the issues because of USA/UN interference here since 1948; it is all changing rapidly.

The decades old meddling in the ME, particularly in Israel by the USA is going to haunt ALL Americans. And this West fellow thinks the same tired policies can be used again and again on political and military fronts because he read the Holy Bible.

Well, folks, all the USA has done was cause trouble. Your taxpayer dollars went down the shithole of stinkin' the world up.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-02-25   20:08:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: buckeroo (#11)

Buck I have been studying this issue for decades too. You apparently didn't learn anything. Israel is our only true ally in the region.

Do you think when (theoretically) muslims take over Israel they will be satisfied stopping there? If you do I have a used diaper to sell you. It's hersheys I promise.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-25   20:34:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: , jaol1fe (#0)

confirmed with full posting privileges.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-25   20:44:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: A K A Stone (#12)

Israel is our only true ally in the region.

It must be an ally. It has been the 51st state of the USA since 1947; particularly since America has forced American taxpayers to tithe Israel about one trillion dollars in direct foreign aid and subsidies from that time to the present. If it was a measurable quantity, the USA has supplied TRILLIONS in indirect aid, as well.

And through that time, the strife has increased and the USA has become more involved in wars that go nowhere. As a nation, the USA is more vulnerable than ever before from external and internal enemies.

Who needs a friend like Israel? Especially since they are half-way around the world, far removed from our own internal affairs.... well with the exception of Israeli citizens creating our domestic and foreign policies ... and AIPAC and ADL.

Yeah, we got a lot of friends there.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-02-25   20:48:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: A K A Stone (#12)

Israel is our only true ally in the region.

No,they aren't. We are THEIR ally,though.

It's a one-way deal,and they are the only ones that benefit from it.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2011-02-25   22:41:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: sneakypete (#15)

No,they aren't. We are THEIR ally,though.

It's a one-way deal,and they are the only ones that benefit from it.

They are focused on Israel right now. If Israel was to fall, it wont. But if it was then they would focus over here.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-27   8:36:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: buckeroo (#14)

It must be an ally. It has been the 51st state of the USA since 1947; particularly since America has forced American taxpayers to tithe Israel about one trillion dollars in direct foreign aid

You're nuts. Go back to grade school and learn to add. If you can't do simple addition, I 'd hate to see you try multiplication or division.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-27   8:38:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: A K A Stone (#16) (Edited)

They are focused on Israel right now. If Israel was to fall, it wont. But if it was then they would focus over here.

I disagree. The truth is the main reason they even pay any negative attention to us is because of our support for Israel.

BTW,this is NOT the reason we should stop financing and protecting the sovereign nation of Israel like she were the 51st state. We should stop supporting Israel because American gains NOTHING from this support and it is a waste of taxpayer dollars.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2011-02-27   9:02:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: sneakypete (#18)

I disagree. The truth is the main reason they even pay any negative attention to us is because of our support for Israel.

Uh. I guess you haven't read the part in the Koran where they say kill all infidels. Oh well. I'll just have to say you are ignorant on that one.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-27   9:08:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: sneakypete (#18)

BTW,this is NOT the reason we should stop financing and protecting the sovereign nation of Israel like she were the 51st state. We should stop supporting Israel because American gains NOTHING from this support and it is a waste of taxpayer dollars.

I don't care if we end foreign aid. But we do get a nice ally in the region. A safe place to land our planes. A presence in the Middle East. Turn your blinders off and maybe you can see some light.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-27   9:09:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: A K A Stone, buckeroo (#17)

particularly since America has forced American taxpayers to tithe Israel about one trillion dollars in direct foreign aid

You're nuts. Go back to grade school and learn to add. If you can't do simple addition,

As much as I hate to defend buck,he may be right about this one if you add up all the money we have given Israel in direct and indirect foreign aid since 1947 it may well add up to close to a trillion bucks if you adjust for inflation.

Hell,there are people (I am NOT one of them) who are convinced we invaded Iraq to protect Israel. Yeah,the invasion may have helped Israel as a accidental secondary reaction,but the main reasons we invaded Iraq was to boost up Boy Jorge's and the RINO's popularity ahead of the mid-term elections,and to protect Saudi Arabia.

Anyhow,if you add all the money we spent on the military cruising around in the area to discourage attacks and the money we have given to Egypt and other Muslim nations to buy their alleged friendship,it starts adding up pretty quickly.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2011-02-27   9:12:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: A K A Stone (#19)

. I guess you haven't read the part in the Koran where they say kill all infidels.

I haven't read the Koran at all,but I do know they don't have the ability to attack the continental US unless we allow them in. Which we are doing,and which we should stop doing.

Oh well. I'll just have to say you are ignorant on that one.

Really? Correct me if I'm wrong,but my best guess is that the US wasn't established on land claimed by the Arabs,and that the Arabs can't swim good enough to make it here to attack us.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2011-02-27   9:16:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: A K A Stone (#20)

I don't care if we end foreign aid. But we do get a nice ally in the region.

You can't have it both ways. If we stopped supporting their socialist government,that same government would start searching for ways to punish us for our neglect. Mostly be Jews that live here in the US going uber-political.

Right now they are the best friends money can rent in the region,but the instant that money stops their alleged "friendship" stops.

A safe place to land our planes.

Why? Remove our support for Israel from the equation,and why do any of our war planes need to land there or anywhere else in the middle east?

A presence in the Middle East.

We have a presence there more powerful than Israel. It's called "Oil Money". They need us a hell of a lot more than we need them.

Turn your blinders off and maybe you can see some light.

You would best be served by following your own advise. We get NOTHING from Israel than a hand out demanding we give them more, and grief.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2011-02-27   9:23:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: A K A Stone (#17)

You're nuts. Go back to grade school and learn to add. If you can't do simple addition, I 'd hate to see you try multiplication or division.

Such a nice little forum manager with gracious posting publick etiquette for the world to see. Quick question: when are WE having our first fund raiser to save Liberty'sFlame?

buckeroo  posted on  2011-02-27   20:13:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: buckeroo (#24)

Send me 200 bucks Buckeroo. That will take care of it for the year. Thanks in advance.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-27   20:40:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: buckeroo (#24)

Buck you said we gave them a trillion. That is nuts.

Billions and billions...Yes. A trillion no.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-27   20:40:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: A K A Stone (#25)

Send me 200 bucks

NAW ... I am afraid of being banned (again and again) because I don't post based upon your strange expectations of creating a JESUS-FREAK Channel.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-02-27   20:45:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: buckeroo (#27)

The times I have "banned" you was because of some of the threads you make. You know like the one you made up about Murron being a dyke using very descriptive words. I do believe in 4th 5th and 10th chances though. Despite what you may think about me Buckeroo I actually like you. I know we get pissed and say stuff sometimes. I understand your frustration with the way our government has turned out. I know that you like me and many others feel betrayed by the way this country is going right now. I think you are a patriot and love the ideals of this country as espoused in the Declaration of Independance and the Constitution.

I think sometimes you take your anger out on the wrong people though. I know none of us agree on everything. But that is ok. None of us is right all of the time.

Also on the 200 bucks. That is what I need to make the site go the rest of the year. I'll pick up that tab though Buck. It is my responsibility. Some day in the future if things get to expensive I may ask for some help, but not now.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-27   20:52:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: A K A Stone (#26)

Buck you said we gave them a trillion.

Israel has received more than a trillion; the reasons are because of the HUGE US posture about Israel in the UN and around the ME. The amounts can't be accurately stated because the USA doesn't posture the spending based upon specific line items within the budget.

Billions and billions...Yes.

In contemporary America, you (as a lowly tax-slave to the US government) MUST tithe nearly 4 BN/yr; this has been going on for the last ten years and is perpetuated FOREVER. So, the minimum limit I set is 40Bn in this century, alone.

Going back another 50+ years is at least another 200 Bn in direct loans, grants and military aid.

From your perspective this gracious US taxpayer offering is a sign of love for our fellow man around the world in need of help and benefit. Yet, the tally grows because of direct support to the UN (ME operations), direct aid to Syria, Egypt, Jordan, Turkey, Iraq (yes Iran when was President with the Shah) and piles of other operations such as is ongoing with Afghanistan.

The US created the UN. It is largely instrumental with the creation of artificial nations such as Israel.

It has cost the USA trillions of dollars with no relief in sight over the last 60 years unless we cut the head off these blood suckers NOW.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-02-27   21:00:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: buckeroo (#29)

Buckeroo. Rand Paul is who I want to see run for President. Do you know his position on these issues? They pretty much mirror mine.

I still think your nuber of a trillion is way off the mark. Have we wasted to much money on foreign aid to all nations. Certainly we have.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-27   21:10:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: A K A Stone (#30)

I still think your nuber (sic) of a trillion is way off the mark.

?

Its TRILLION(S) pal. That is a plural sum.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-02-27   21:19:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: buckeroo (#31)

You made the claim. Time to put up or shut up.

Lets get started. How many billions did we give them from 1948 until 1980. That can be the starting point. Show me your source and we will see if you are right.

You made the claim. Prove you aren't blowing smoke up our asses.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-27   21:26:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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