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Title: To the dumbasses here who think Alaska is "socialist"
Source: [None]
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Published: Feb 23, 2011
Author: note to site dumbasses
Post Date: 2011-02-23 18:00:01 by no gnu taxes
Keywords: None
Views: 66190
Comments: 99

Socialism (and Communism) is the government taking from one person and giving it to another.

Alaska is merely taking revenues derived from people owned resources and distributing it back to the people with the government having no say in who gets what; it's distributed equally without regard to so called "need."

The oil is not State owned. It is people owned. They are simply giving the residents back the money that the oil companies paid to drill on their lands. Being a resident means they own a piece of that land so if money is made off of it they should have a right to it.

I know you fucking moron socialists who think everything is State owned won't get this, but screw you anyway.

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#3. To: All (#0)

Rattberg's too stupid to understand that the People owning the resources IS Socialism.

war  posted on  2011-02-23   18:09:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: war, All (#3)

Rattberg's too stupid to understand that the People owning the resources IS Socialism.

Are stockholders socialism, retarded dwarf?

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2011-02-23   18:11:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Ibluafartsky (#5)

Are stockholders socialism

Stockholders don't own resources, they own stock. They own shares in a public or private corporation.

Stockholders own the stock, but not the corporation itself, not the corporations profit, and they are not investors, as in the contributors of capital. And they don't own the resources a corporation uses to manufacture a product.

We The People  posted on  2011-02-23   18:34:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: We The People (#8)

Stockholders don't own resources, they own stock.

The stock is part of the value of the company/corporation/resource.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2011-02-23   18:36:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Ibluafartsky (#9)

The stock is part of the value of the company/corporation/resource.

That's not true.

The stock may be part of the value of the company/corporation, but not the resource.

We The People  posted on  2011-02-23   18:43:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: We The People (#10)

The stock may be part of the value of the company/corporation, but not the resource.

What is of value besides the resource itself in oil companies and mining companies?

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2011-02-23   20:41:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Ibluafartsky (#30)

What is of value besides the resource itself in oil companies and mining companies?

I've given you nothing but facts and truth.

You can choose to believe them or disregard them, but you cannot change them.

We The People  posted on  2011-02-23   20:53:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: We The People (#33)

I've given you nothing but facts and truth.

What is of value besides the resource itself in oil companies and mining companies?

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2011-02-23   20:59:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Ibluafartsky (#34)

Just like on LP, you'll spin your wheels till the very end.

Drilling rigs, wellheads, hoists, lifts, compressors, pumps, pipe-handling equipment, transport equipment, computers, software, etc.

Neither your question or the answer will prove that stockholders own resources.

We The People  posted on  2011-02-23   21:12:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: We The People (#35)

Neither your question or the answer will prove that stockholders own resources.

Your claims and statements don't prove they don't.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2011-02-23   21:18:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Ibluafartsky (#36)

Your claims and statements don't prove they don't.

No, they don't.

The truth was the truth long before you and I discussed it. I just relayed the information. As I said before, you can believe it or disregard it.

I really don't care which you choose.

We The People  posted on  2011-02-23   21:26:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: We The People (#37)

I really don't care which you choose.

I'm sure you don't. It's obvious you aren't interested in the truth. Individuals actually pooled their money years ago and bought oil leases. They owned no equipment, just the leases, potential resource and drilling rights.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2011-02-23   21:34:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Ibluafartsky (#38)

Individuals actually pooled their money years ago and bought oil leases. They owned no equipment, just the leases, potential resource and drilling rights.

And none of that has any bearing on whether or not stockholders in a corporation own the resources that the corporation uses to manufacture products.

You can wish it were so, but that won't make it so.

You can rationalize it any way you'd like to, but that won't make it true.

Maybe you can get Goldi to register here, to help you through these hard times too?

We The People  posted on  2011-02-23   21:59:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: We The People (#39)

Maybe you can get Goldi to register here

Why, do you carry a woody for her?

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2011-02-23   22:05:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Ibluafartsky (#41)

Why, do you carry a woody for her?

LOL! Yeah, I do. I have a thing for elderly, Jewish CT freaks.

But she obviously has a woody for her 'canary in the coal mine', so my love goes unrequited.

We The People  posted on  2011-02-23   22:18:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: We The People (#45)

I have a thing for elderly, Jewish CT freaks.

Then you should join Freedom 4um.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2011-02-23   22:24:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Ibluafartsky (#49)

Then you should join Freedom 4um.

No, I'm not a serial forum poster and hadn't even heard of Freedom 4um until you mentioned that forum on LP. I have one home at a time.

Unfortunately for you, right now that is here.

We The People  posted on  2011-02-23   22:39:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: We The People (#51)

Unfortunately for you,

Unfortunately? Why? I find all of you sanctimonious liberals amusing. Problem is, you're all pretty much alike. Short on knowledge and long on ignorance. I'll attempt to educate you though it is a thankless task.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2011-02-23   22:56:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: Ibluafartsky (#52)

I find all of you sanctimonious liberals amusing.

Oh please, have you no shame?

I am far to the right of you and you damned well know it.

We The People  posted on  2011-02-26   9:07:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: We The People (#75)

I am far to the right of you

That is funny!

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2011-02-27   16:00:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: Ibluafartsky (#76) (Edited)

I am far to the right of you

That is funny!

Really.

Name just one issue in which you hold a more conservative position than me.

Just one. Can you?

We The People  posted on  2011-02-27   16:50:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: We The People (#77)

Name just one issue in which you hold a more conservative position than me.

You made the claim, so you state how you are more conservative than me.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2011-02-27   17:25:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: Ibluafartsky (#82)

Name just one issue in which you hold a more conservative position than me.

You made the claim

I didn't think so.

Remember, you called me a liberal. Scroll up and see. So YOU made the claim.

I guess the 'back up your claim or be FOS' wouldn't work on you, so I won't try it. I mean, you go in FOS, so you got nothing to lose.

We The People  posted on  2011-02-27   17:39:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: We The People (#84)

Remember, you called me a liberal.

You are! Just like a liberal you don't have any balls. You don't back up your claims.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2011-02-27   20:23:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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