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Title: To the dumbasses here who think Alaska is "socialist"
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Published: Feb 23, 2011
Author: note to site dumbasses
Post Date: 2011-02-23 18:00:01 by no gnu taxes
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Views: 64264
Comments: 99

Socialism (and Communism) is the government taking from one person and giving it to another.

Alaska is merely taking revenues derived from people owned resources and distributing it back to the people with the government having no say in who gets what; it's distributed equally without regard to so called "need."

The oil is not State owned. It is people owned. They are simply giving the residents back the money that the oil companies paid to drill on their lands. Being a resident means they own a piece of that land so if money is made off of it they should have a right to it.

I know you fucking moron socialists who think everything is State owned won't get this, but screw you anyway.

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#3. To: All (#0)

Rattberg's too stupid to understand that the People owning the resources IS Socialism.

war  posted on  2011-02-23   18:09:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: war, All (#3)

Rattberg's too stupid to understand that the People owning the resources IS Socialism.

Are stockholders socialism, retarded dwarf?

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2011-02-23   18:11:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Ibluafartsky (#5)

Are stockholders socialism

Stockholders don't own resources, they own stock. They own shares in a public or private corporation.

Stockholders own the stock, but not the corporation itself, not the corporations profit, and they are not investors, as in the contributors of capital. And they don't own the resources a corporation uses to manufacture a product.

We The People  posted on  2011-02-23   18:34:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: We The People (#8)

Stockholders don't own resources, they own stock.

The stock is part of the value of the company/corporation/resource.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2011-02-23   18:36:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Ibluafartsky (#9)

The stock is part of the value of the company/corporation/resource.

That's not true.

The stock may be part of the value of the company/corporation, but not the resource.

We The People  posted on  2011-02-23   18:43:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: We The People (#10)

The stock may be part of the value of the company/corporation, but not the resource.

What is of value besides the resource itself in oil companies and mining companies?

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2011-02-23   20:41:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Ibluafartsky (#30)

What is of value besides the resource itself in oil companies and mining companies?

I've given you nothing but facts and truth.

You can choose to believe them or disregard them, but you cannot change them.

We The People  posted on  2011-02-23   20:53:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: We The People (#33)

I've given you nothing but facts and truth.

What is of value besides the resource itself in oil companies and mining companies?

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2011-02-23   20:59:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Ibluafartsky (#34)

Just like on LP, you'll spin your wheels till the very end.

Drilling rigs, wellheads, hoists, lifts, compressors, pumps, pipe-handling equipment, transport equipment, computers, software, etc.

Neither your question or the answer will prove that stockholders own resources.

We The People  posted on  2011-02-23   21:12:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: We The People (#35)

Neither your question or the answer will prove that stockholders own resources.

Your claims and statements don't prove they don't.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2011-02-23   21:18:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Ibluafartsky (#36)

Your claims and statements don't prove they don't.

No, they don't.

The truth was the truth long before you and I discussed it. I just relayed the information. As I said before, you can believe it or disregard it.

I really don't care which you choose.

We The People  posted on  2011-02-23   21:26:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: We The People (#37)

I really don't care which you choose.

I'm sure you don't. It's obvious you aren't interested in the truth. Individuals actually pooled their money years ago and bought oil leases. They owned no equipment, just the leases, potential resource and drilling rights.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2011-02-23   21:34:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Ibluafartsky (#38)

Individuals actually pooled their money years ago and bought oil leases. They owned no equipment, just the leases, potential resource and drilling rights.

And none of that has any bearing on whether or not stockholders in a corporation own the resources that the corporation uses to manufacture products.

You can wish it were so, but that won't make it so.

You can rationalize it any way you'd like to, but that won't make it true.

Maybe you can get Goldi to register here, to help you through these hard times too?

We The People  posted on  2011-02-23   21:59:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: We The People (#39)

Maybe you can get Goldi to register here

Why, do you carry a woody for her?

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2011-02-23   22:05:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Ibluafartsky (#41)

Why, do you carry a woody for her?

LOL! Yeah, I do. I have a thing for elderly, Jewish CT freaks.

But she obviously has a woody for her 'canary in the coal mine', so my love goes unrequited.

We The People  posted on  2011-02-23   22:18:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: We The People (#45)

I have a thing for elderly, Jewish CT freaks.

Then you should join Freedom 4um.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2011-02-23   22:24:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Ibluafartsky (#49)

Then you should join Freedom 4um.

No, I'm not a serial forum poster and hadn't even heard of Freedom 4um until you mentioned that forum on LP. I have one home at a time.

Unfortunately for you, right now that is here.

We The People  posted on  2011-02-23   22:39:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: We The People (#51)

No, I'm not a serial forum poster

So were you kicked or are you a quitter?

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2011-02-23   23:05:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Ibluafartsky (#53) (Edited)

So were you kicked or are you a quitter?

Are you purposely trying to change the subject because you aren't comfortable with your argument that stockholders own the resource that corporations use to manufacture a product?

An argument btw, that you're making to defend Alaskans. Are you from Alaska, yukon?

We The People  posted on  2011-02-25   6:25:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: We The People (#73)

Are you purposely trying to change the subject

You posted this, "No, I'm not a serial forum poster" I responded with a question. How the hell did I change the subject?

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2011-02-26   5:22:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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