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Title: To the dumbasses here who think Alaska is "socialist"
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Published: Feb 23, 2011
Author: note to site dumbasses
Post Date: 2011-02-23 18:00:01 by no gnu taxes
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Comments: 99

Socialism (and Communism) is the government taking from one person and giving it to another.

Alaska is merely taking revenues derived from people owned resources and distributing it back to the people with the government having no say in who gets what; it's distributed equally without regard to so called "need."

The oil is not State owned. It is people owned. They are simply giving the residents back the money that the oil companies paid to drill on their lands. Being a resident means they own a piece of that land so if money is made off of it they should have a right to it.

I know you fucking moron socialists who think everything is State owned won't get this, but screw you anyway.

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#3. To: All (#0)

Rattberg's too stupid to understand that the People owning the resources IS Socialism.

war  posted on  2011-02-23   18:09:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: war, All (#3)

Rattberg's too stupid to understand that the People owning the resources IS Socialism.

Are stockholders socialism, retarded dwarf?

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2011-02-23   18:11:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Ibluafartsky (#5)

Are stockholders socialism

Stockholders don't own resources, they own stock. They own shares in a public or private corporation.

Stockholders own the stock, but not the corporation itself, not the corporations profit, and they are not investors, as in the contributors of capital. And they don't own the resources a corporation uses to manufacture a product.

We The People  posted on  2011-02-23   18:34:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: We The People (#8)

Stockholders own the stock, but not the corporation itself

If stockholders don't own a corporation, then who does. After all, isn't stock nothing more than a share of ownership in a company?

no gnu taxes  posted on  2011-02-23   18:45:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: no gnu taxes (#12)

If stockholders don't own a corporation, then who does. After all, isn't stock nothing more than a share of ownership in a company?

The founders of the corporation own the corporation. They may sell stock, which is a fraction of ownership in a business. A business may declare different types (classes) of shares, each having distinctive ownership rules, privileges, or share values.

But we were talking about resources.

We The People  posted on  2011-02-23   18:54:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: We The People, no gnu taxes, ALL you libTARD wannabe cheechakos (#15) (Edited)

But we were talking about resources.

Yes we are.

The structure of the Alaskan people owning ALL natural resources in common is in the Alaskan Constitution ratified and signed in 1959.

This Constitution had been approved by the Congress before ratification.

This was done because of the hardship of living Alaska, and how difficult it is to get any MONEY in Alaska. It was really done to fund state gooberment.

The Congress didn't have a problem with doing this because up to then there had been no real BIG money coming out of Alaskan resource exploitation. Many it had been locatable metal, copper and fish and lumber.

When OIL was found at Funny River in the early sixties and then all over the damned state, the feds got suddenly concerned about the split of the take. OIL meant MEGA BUCKS for somebody.

So Uncle Ted Stevens and his wacky bunch of feral whores allowed Congress to lower the percentages of the split from 90% to 10% on all OIL.

To this day, unless you hold a locatable feral claim OR the Alaska state equivalent, you have NO MINERAL RIGHTS FOR ANY LAND THAT YOU SUPPOSEDLY "OWN".

We can't even legally use GRAVEL from our own land on our own land.

The state tells us that it's an even trade.

The Alaskan people get a PART of a percentage of a five year average of the interest on the body of the fund containing the OIL split, AND THE STATE GETS ALL ALASKAN MINERAL RIGHTS.

I don't like it, and alot of us don't like it.

We tried to stop getting that little sliver of the fund and to restore our INDIVIDUAL MINERAL RIGHTS by "cashing out" BUT the feral gooberment would have taken like 80% of it.

So any way that we go Alaskans are kinda fucked.

This is how it is.

If you want to call it "socialism" have at it I really don't care what you ignorant wannabe cheechakos F ing say or "think". This isn't the lower 48. EVERYTHING is HARDER and MORE EXPENSIVE and LESS CHOICE and EXTREME in Alaska.

This works for Alaska.

All you have to do is live here one year, and plan on living here from then on, to get your share.

Come on up and try it wannabe cheechakos. (Btw the more Alaskans the less the specific PFD).

See if the PFD is worth living here for.

Do ANY of you wannabe cheechakos know what "FEDERALISM" means?

Do any of you wannabe cheechakos understand why it's called the "FEDERAL" Gooberment?

Why do you hate the founders?

Why do you hate LIBERTY?

Do you wannabe cheechakos really think that what works where ever you live, works everywhere else in the UNITED STATES of AMERICA?

Do you wannabe cheechakos think that you ought to live the way New York tells you to live?

It's the UNITED STATES of AMERICA, NOT the SAME STATES of AMERICA you wannabe cheechakos.

Of course none of this means anything to these mental midget libTURD herd dwellers. They are just snot nosed infantile word parsing agenda driven idiots, totally unconcerned with the objective truth about ANYTHING.

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-02-23   19:31:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Mad Dog (#22)

All you have to do is live here one year, and plan on living here from then on, to get your share. Come on up

I am packing my sleeping bag right now with a couple of boxes of MREs. I am thumbing my way up the highway as you chat on the Internet.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-02-23   19:50:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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