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Title: Even FDR Was Wary of Public Employee Unions
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URL Source: http://www.anchorrising.com/barnacles/009485.html
Published: Feb 10, 2010
Author: Marc Comtois
Post Date: 2011-02-23 00:37:58 by A K A Stone
Keywords: None
Views: 11975
Comments: 25

This article by Rich Lowry and this piece in the Wall Street Journal both alluded to Franklin Roosevelt's wariness towards public employee unions. I was surprised. So I dug around and found one source that supports this claim. In a letter to a public employee union, Roosevelt explains that, yes, they do have a right to organize, but there are some restrictions:

All Government employees should realize that the process of collective bargaining, as usually understood, cannot be transplanted into the public service. It has its distinct and insurmountable limitations when applied to public personnel management. The very nature and purposes of Government make it impossible for administrative officials to represent fully or to bind the employer in mutual discussions with Government employee organizations. The employer is the whole people, who speak by means of laws enacted by their representatives in Congress. Accordingly, administrative officials and employees alike are governed and guided, and in many instances restricted, by laws which establish policies, procedures, or rules in personnel matters.

Well, that hasn't really come to pass now, has it?

Particularly, I want to emphasize my conviction that militant tactics have no place in the functions of any organization of Government employees. Upon employees in the Federal service rests the obligation to serve the whole people, whose interests and welfare require orderliness and continuity in the conduct of Government activities. This obligation is paramount. Since their own services have to do with the functioning of the Government, a strike of public employees manifests nothing less than an intent on their part to prevent or obstruct the operations of Government until their demands are satisfied. Such action, looking toward the paralysis of Government by those who have sworn to support it, is unthinkable and intolerable. It is, therefore, with a feeling of gratification that I have noted in the constitution of the National Federation of Federal Employees the provision that "under no circumstances shall this Federation engage in or support strikes against the United States Government."

Interesting that he viewed strikes by Federal employees in such a way.

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#1. To: All (#0)

F.D.R. Warned Us

Updated February 19, 2011, 09:38 PM

James Sherk is the Bradley fellow in labor policy at the Center for Data Analysis at the Heritage Foundation.

“It is impossible to bargain collectively with the government.”

That wasn’t Newt Gingrich, or Ron Paul, or Ronald Reagan talking. That was George Meany -- the former president of the A.F.L.-C.I.O -- in 1955. Government unions are unremarkable today, but the labor movement once thought the idea absurd.

Public sector unions insist on laws that serve their interests -- at the expense of the common good.

The founders of the labor movement viewed unions as a vehicle to get workers more of the profits they help create. Government workers, however, don’t generate profits. They merely negotiate for more tax money. When government unions strike, they strike against taxpayers. F.D.R. considered this “unthinkable and intolerable.”

Government collective bargaining means voters do not have the final say on public policy. Instead their elected representatives must negotiate spending and policy decisions with unions. That is not exactly democratic – a fact that unions once recognized.

George Meany was not alone. Up through the 1950s, unions widely agreed that collective bargaining had no place in government. But starting with Wisconsin in 1959, states began to allow collective bargaining in government. The influx of dues and members quickly changed the union movement’s tune, and collective bargaining in government is now widespread. As a result unions can now insist on laws that serve their interests – at the expense of the common good.

Union contracts make it next to impossible to reward excellent teachers or fire failing ones. Union contracts give government employees gold-plated benefits – at the cost of higher taxes and less spending on other priorities. The alternative to Walker's budget was kicking 200,000 children off Medicaid.

Governor Walker’s plan reasserts voter control over government policy. Voters’ elected representatives should decide how the government spends their taxes. More states should heed the A.F.L.-C.I.O. Executive Council’s 1959 advice: “In terms of accepted collective bargaining procedures, government workers have no right beyond the authority to petition Congress — a right available to every citizen.”

http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2011/02/18/the-first-blow-against-public-employees/fdr-warned-us-about-public-sector-unions

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-23   0:39:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: All, lucysmom, godwinson, skip intro, go65 (#1)

http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2011/02/18/the-first-blow-against-public-employees/fdr-warned-us-about-public-sector-unions

Again from the above

Government collective bargaining means voters do not have the final say on public policy. Instead their elected representatives must negotiate spending and policy decisions with unions. That is not exactly democratic – a fact that unions once recognized.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-23   0:41:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: A K A Stone (#2)

Government collective bargaining means voters do not have the final say on public policy. Instead their elected representatives must negotiate spending and policy decisions with unions. That is not exactly democratic – a fact that unions once recognized.

I disagree.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-02-23   10:34:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: lucysmom (#14)

I disagree.

Of course you do. It doesn't surprise anyone here that you are on the commie side again.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-23   10:37:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: A K A Stone (#15)

Of course you do. It doesn't surprise anyone here that you are on the commie side again.

I fail to see any widespread evidence where anyone is living in a commune, or are owning property in a country equally, except some examples of mainly Christian sects living on farms or in compounds trying to create an environment that they feel will be harmonious to their beliefs.

The only modern 1st world country that I can find that truly observes, sponsors and encourages limited communist practices in their citizens is......drum roll.....Israel

Rek  posted on  2011-02-23   11:00:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Rek (#18) (Edited)

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-23   11:07:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#20. To: A K A Stone (#19)

buckeroo you are limited to one screen name here. this one is banned.

You are way too paranoid.I'm not buckeroo.

Rek  posted on  2011-02-23 11:11:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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