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Title: Wisconsin Firefighters Join Protest With Sleep-In
Source: Huffington Post
URL Source: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/talya ... nsberg/post_1761_b_826509.html
Published: Feb 22, 2011
Author: Talya Minsberg
Post Date: 2011-02-22 15:08:46 by lucysmom
Keywords: None
Views: 48008
Comments: 53

When protests in Madison, Wisconsin broke out with Republican Governor Scott Walker's budget proposal, state firefighters immediately backed the public sector workers, who would be stripped of collective bargaining rights in the bill.

Never mind the firefighters, along with cops and state troopers, were exempt from the union busting legislation. They have been protesting since day one with their self described working "brothers and sisters" in the public sector.

Monday night, around sixty men and women marched from Madison's Fire Station #1 to the capitol with blankets, pillows and plenty of snacks to spend the night with fellow protesters on the hard marble floor of Wisconsin's capitol.

"We just couldn't stand by and let this happen to our brothers and sisters," Mahlon Mitchell, State President of the Professional Fire Fighters of Wisconsin (PFFW), said. "We are firefighters, we respond to emergencies, and we are responding to an emergency of the middle class,"

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#1. To: A K A Stone, Fred Mertz, Godwinson, go65, war, no gnu taxes, Skip Intro, ferret mike, jwpegler, brian s, mcgowanjm (#0)

Never mind the firefighters, along with cops and state troopers, were exempt from the union busting legislation. They have been protesting since day one with their self described working "brothers and sisters" in the public sector.

Certain people are bent on creating the illusion that the Wisconsin protesters are all teachers - time to dispel that myth.

You have the courage to tell the masses what no politician told them: you are inferior and all the improvements in your conditions which you simply take for granted you owe to the efforts of men who are better than you. Ludwig von Mises in a letter to Ayn Rand

lucysmom  posted on  2011-02-22   15:11:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: lucysmom (#1)

"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-02-22   15:20:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: lucysmom (#1)

Certain people are bent on creating the illusion that the Wisconsin protesters are all teachers - time to dispel that myth.

They're all socialists.


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2011-02-22   15:24:56 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: lucysmom (#1)

Certain people are bent on creating the illusion that the Wisconsin protesters are all teachers - time to dispel that myth.

I'll bet you put a lot of thought into that. What made you think people are bent on creating some illusion about these teachers being the only protesters? Did you only just now get the memo of who public workers are, this involves all of them, firefighters, police..etc..the teachers seem to be the focus right now because they are the most visable...for now.

Murron  posted on  2011-02-22   15:31:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: lucysmom (#1)

Certain people are bent on creating the illusion that the Wisconsin protesters are all teachers

Really? Why bother? Who cares?

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2011-02-22   15:40:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Murron (#4)

I'll bet you put a lot of thought into that. What made you think people are bent on creating some illusion about these teachers being the only protesters? Did you only just now get the memo of who public workers are, this involves all of them, firefighters, police..etc..the teachers seem to be the focus right now because they are the most visable...for now.

I am so relieved! The way you vent your spleen at teachers whether or not You knew that was in doubt. Teachers seem most visible cause that's the group you yammer on about.

BTW, firefighters, and police are exempt - you'd know that if your read the article.

You have the courage to tell the masses what no politician told them: you are inferior and all the improvements in your conditions which you simply take for granted you owe to the efforts of men who are better than you. Ludwig von Mises in a letter to Ayn Rand

lucysmom  posted on  2011-02-22   15:44:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: lucysmom (#0)

"We are firefighters, we respond to emergencies, and we are responding to an emergency of the middle class,"

Well stated.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-02-22   15:48:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: lucysmom (#6)

BTW, firefighters, and police are exempt - you'd know that if your read the article.

Mammy ain't so bright sometimes.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-02-22   15:50:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Fred Mertz (#7)

I was impressed with that statement too.

You have the courage to tell the masses what no politician told them: you are inferior and all the improvements in your conditions which you simply take for granted you owe to the efforts of men who are better than you. Ludwig von Mises in a letter to Ayn Rand

lucysmom  posted on  2011-02-22   15:52:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: lucysmom, Fred Mertz (#9)

I was impressed with that statement too.

A firefighters obligation is to his community and the safety of all the citizens, not a certain class of people you fookin morons.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2011-02-22   16:13:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Ibluafartsky, lucysmom, Fred Mertz (#10)

A firefighters obligation is to his community and the safety of all the citizens, not a certain class of people you fookin morons.

The firefighters are not walking off the job. Those there are donating their free time for the union cause.

Union Strong!!!

"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-02-22   16:20:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Godwinson (#11)

The firefighters are not walking off the job.

The teachers have already. The firefighters are supporting a particular class of people, not the community.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2011-02-22   16:26:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Ibluafartsky (#12)

The teachers have already. The firefighters are supporting a particular class of people, not the community.

By supporting middle class jobs they are supporting the future of all of us.

"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-02-22   16:46:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Godwinson (#13)

By supporting middle class jobs they are supporting the future of all of us.

Socialist BULLSHIT!

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2011-02-22   18:16:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Godwinson (#13)

By supporting middle class jobs they are supporting the future of all of us.

It is stunning! Everybody is feeling the pinch. No one denies the middle class is an endangered species, and yet the middle class turns on those in the middle class willing to stand up and stop their decimation.

Gov. Walker and the Koch brothers must be rolling on the floor laughing themselves silly.

You have the courage to tell the masses what no politician told them: you are inferior and all the improvements in your conditions which you simply take for granted you owe to the efforts of men who are better than you. Ludwig von Mises in a letter to Ayn Rand

lucysmom  posted on  2011-02-22   19:49:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: lucysmom (#15)

Gov. Walker and the Koch brothers must be rolling on the floor laughing themselves silly.

Or cringing in fear like Mubarak....

"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-02-22   19:53:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Godwinson (#13) (Edited)

By supporting middle class jobs they are supporting the future of all of us.

What middle class are you refering to, the white collar middle class, the bluer collar middle class, or both. There is a differnce between them where their salaries, pentions, bonues..etc., are coming from being discussed here, but I'll wait for your answer.

Murron  posted on  2011-02-22   20:23:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Murron (#17) (Edited)

What middle class are you refering to, the white collar middle class, the bluer collar middle class, or both. There is a differnce between them where their salaries, pentions, bonues..etc., are coming from being discussed here, but I'll wait for your answer.

The Republicans tried to turn one group against the other in Wisconsin - they went after the presumable unpopular teachers but not the cops or firefighters in a divide and conquer gambit. Failed.

"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-02-22   20:26:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Godwinson (#18)

The Republicans tried to turn one group against the other in Wisconsin

More bullshit from leftards.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2011-02-22   20:40:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Godwinson (#18)

they went after the presumable unpopular teachers

I have nothing against teachers.

I like teachers much better then pigs.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-22   20:47:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Godwinson (#18)

they went after the presumable unpopular teachers but not the cops or firefighters in a divide and conquer gambit. Failed.

Jesus Christ man, get the hell away from lucysmom, she's rubbing off on you, from some of your other posts I thought you were too smart to insult a person intelligence just to get your point across.

Anyone with an IQ above room temperature knows this isn't just about 'teachers', they most certainly are not the only PUBLIC workers this concerns, but all of those who receive taxpayer funded wages. jeeeeeze...

Who is the the employer of these public, government workers? WE ARE, the Taxpayers who pay their wages! As voters, we have (hopefully) elected officials that represent our voice as the employer. They, the public servants, up until this point, at least, have bargained and agreed to the terms of employee contracts.

Murron  posted on  2011-02-22   20:50:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Godwinson (#18)

What middle class are you refering to, the white collar middle class, the bluer collar middle class, or both. There is a differnce between them where their salaries, pentions, bonues..etc., are coming from being discussed here, but I'll wait for your answer.

The Republicans tried to turn one group against the other in Wisconsin - they went after the presumable unpopular teachers but not the cops or firefighters in a divide and conquer gambit. Failed.

You didn't answer her question.

I would say that if they go after and govt unions they should go after ALL govt unions. They shouldn't say the pigs or firemen are to important. Teachers are important too.

Also you said that it is a constitutional right. If so why not in Virginia where govt workers are not allowed to unionize. And what about your beloved FDR's pronouncement that govt workers unionizing is a bad idea.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-22   20:50:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: A K A Stone (#20)

I like teachers much better then pigs.

What do you have against pork, the other white meat?

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2011-02-22   20:51:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Ibluafartsky (#23)

Pigs as in cops. I hate cops. They are mostly all corrupt and they lie a lot.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-22   20:53:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: lucysmom (#15) (Edited)

No one denies the middle class is an endangered species, and yet the middle class turns on those in the middle class willing to stand up and stop their decimation.

I've noted this irony going back to the demographics on Reagan's elections. I know people in their 80's living with their kids because of how the core of America's manufacturing was outsourced in the early and mid-80's, almost en masse, with Reagan's blessing.

Displaced workers never had a chance. The nations we compete against, re-train displaced workers. We say "Tough shit".

war  posted on  2011-02-22   20:55:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: A K A Stone (#24)

I hate cops. They are mostly all corrupt and they lie a lot.

Geez, you paint with a helluva wide brush. You've had that much contact with law enforcement? Why?

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2011-02-22   20:56:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: A K A Stone (#22)

Pigs? Shame on you.

"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-02-22   20:57:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: war, lucysmom (#25)

America's manufacturing was outsourced in the early and mid-80's,

So who was buying the Toyotas, Datsuns, VWs, Sonys, Panasonics, Technics, Nikons, Fujis, etc. in the United States? Go pedal your lie-beral bullshit somewhere else, dwarf

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2011-02-22   20:59:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Ibluafartsky (#26)

Geez, you paint with a helluva wide brush. You've had that much contact with law enforcement? Why?

I don't know why. I'm a good guy that minds my own business and I don't mess with anyone. Except online.

My first experience with the pigs was about 1990. I was at a free concert downtown. I had to take a leak. I waited in line at the porta potties. There was a big line. My girlfriend/now wife was ahead of me and she went into the portapotties. She did. Some big fucker came up and got ahead of me and he was going to cut in front of all of us and go next. I told him to wait his turn. He popped me in the mouth and loosened my tooth. My girlfriend came out and I told her to keep an eye on that guy. I didn't want to fight him as I would just get arrested. So I went to find the police. I went and found one of the white shirted ones. His name was Officer TENORE. (google his name its on the net) Anyways he said he was busy. He was just standing there talking to some girls flirting with them. I walked away to find another officer. I couldn't find another one. I went back to him and said "please officer a guy just punched me in the mouth and loosened my tooth and the witnesses are going to leave. He grabbed me and said I was "drunk" and arrested me. He put me in the pati wagon and took me to jail. I beat the asshole Sgt Tenore in court, representing myself. When they took me to jail they never gave me my phone call. There were going to give it to me but I wanted to read what they gave me before I signed it. The pigs in the jail tore it up and threw it away and sent me back to the cell. I was lucky my girlfriend managed to find me and bail me out. They are corrupt. Fuck you retired officer Tenore. Like I said Tenore of the Dayton Police department was a corrupt mother fucker. They should take his pension away and let him rot.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-22   21:05:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: war (#25)

NAFTA Caused the job destruction. I was always against that. I was a Perot voter in 92.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-22   21:06:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: A K A Stone (#29)

I went and found one of the white shirted ones.

I thought you said you had to take a leak? Had you been drinking or imbibing?

One incident and you blame the entire law enforcement profession?

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2011-02-22   21:12:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: A K A Stone (#24)

This bit of news should cheer you up stone, the officer/sheriff, I had most of my runs in with is, as we speak, has finally been caught, charged, and indicted...his future is looking bleaker everyday, and the best part, more may be going down with.

The DA, my best target, up until I think a couple months ago, though I'm sorry he took the cowards way out, drove about 6-7 miles from where I live, sat in his car ...and blew his brains out!

(if you want a link to verify either, just let me know) &;-)

Murron  posted on  2011-02-22   21:25:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: war (#25)

Displaced workers never had a chance. The nations we compete against, re-train displaced workers. We say "Tough shit".

Well you know, if you're out of work, you're not trying hard enough.

Those nations we compete against will eat our lunch because their citizens will be healthy, well educated and ready. We, on the other hand, will still be arguing about who's fault it all is.

You have the courage to tell the masses what no politician told them: you are inferior and all the improvements in your conditions which you simply take for granted you owe to the efforts of men who are better than you. Ludwig von Mises in a letter to Ayn Rand

lucysmom  posted on  2011-02-22   21:59:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: lucysmom (#33)

It's Clinton's fault and Bush's too!

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-02-22   22:02:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Ibluafartsky (#31)

I did drink 1 or 2 beers. I was no where even close to being drunk. Not even a tiny bit. They were like 8 oz cups. Anyway one of my friends mothers was there with her husband, may she RIP. She testified on my behalf. They tried to trip her up. She told them she knows what drunk was and I wasn't even close to drunk. I won the case like I said.

That isn't my only encounter with pigs.

I know there are some good ones, but not many imo.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-22   23:19:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: A K A Stone (#35)

I did drink 1 or 2 beers.

That isn't my only encounter with pigs.

If I'm a cop and have had nothing to drink, you probably smelled like a brewery even if you had your claimed one or two. You stated you had to take a leak, but you went off looking for a cop.

That doesn't surprise me for some reason.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2011-02-22   23:23:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Ibluafartsky (#36)

I didn't smell like anything. Don't assume things. The fucker loosened my tooth and I did the right thing looking for a cop. I also won the case imo because they never tested me for alcohol. The judge didn't like that.

I'm telling the truth. Officer Tenore of Dayton Ohio was one corrupt mother fucker. They should take his pension. He would rather flirt with girls. He never moved from that spot. Fucking asshole. He also lied to the judge saying I was flaying my arms and pulling on him. He was a lying sack of shit.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-22   23:27:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: A K A Stone (#37)

I didn't smell like anything.

If you were drinking beer you smelled like beer. The cop may well have been a POS, but why did you have to go to court? Did you get names and numbers of the eyewitnesses?

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2011-02-23   0:42:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Ibluafartsky (#38)

but why did you have to go to court? Did you get names and numbers of the eyewitnesses?

I had to go to court because he arrested me illegally.

They were serving beer there, so it is hardly illegal.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-02-23   0:49:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: A K A Stone (#39)

I had to go to court because he arrested me illegally.

For what? How old were you?

Did you get names and numbers of the eyewitnesses?

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2011-02-23   1:16:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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